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On a side note, I played my PS3 for the first time in months (only to annoyingly find that Sony Network [or whatever it's called] was down... Damn you Sony :P), but I realised that Sixaxis is a palindrome :PQuote:
Originally Posted by dbgtz
To remain more on topic, lack of headset doesn't bother me. Never had one for my consoles.
XBOX ONE :)
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Originally Posted by Demi
On topic of headphones i never used them either but i think with the more social networky the PS4 seems i may pick one up and start using it more.
So lets use our heads for a moment and actually think. The exercise video industry must be worth millions, absolutely millions.
The Kinect is obviously a motion capture device.....great.....it can also read you heart beat.........Need I even say more MS will DOMINATE this market. Moreover, there is not a single product on the market that can beat it, MS has been refining this technology for years.
This console is about more than just games, the potential truly amazes me, but apparently I am the only one.
Honestly, if MS makes this thing easy for game dev's to harness (which they obviously will do there upmost to achieve), there is no reason why dev's would not optionally integrate motion control into gameplay if it can improve the experience.
For games which require the Kinect, you got it, it has to be plugged in for the system to work, there is your 100% Xbox ONE audience right there, you don't have to worry your game might be a massive flop and convince investors it wont be because only 20% of ONE's have a Kinect, go nuts, be creative, do something that has never been done.
When they first unveiled the ONE prior to E3, it totally blew me away, I did not worry about gaming because what is a console? a powerful graphical computer? (check) a decent controller? (check) and what else? What else can this console do? what tools has it provided for dev's to innovate with in the future? ******* cloud computing (which will only become more amazing with the spread of fibre optic) motion and voice control.....**** MS, you got it so right I can hardly even stand it and this is coming from a ******* MAC FANBOY, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
Ok, Windows 8 was before its time, a toddler can see that but somehow MS did not, but man. Windows 8, Xbox ONE, Windows Surface.......am I the only one that can see what MS is trying to achieve here?
I'm not entirely sure how its happened but over the last few months (years behind the scenes I'm sure), Microsoft's vision has really shone through for me, I haven't got Windows 8, I don't have a Surface Pro and I sure as **** don't own a ONE but this time next year, I'll be rocking 2/3 of them and its going to be ******* awesome. Will Sony ever be able to achieve this level of device integration within a household? I doubt it.
A few posts back you saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Oleh
and the best example you can give is an exercise "game"... Your average Joe isn't going to spend £429.99 + the software just to have some camera read their heart beat and have that interact with the game.Quote:
Giving incentive to create bigger and better uses for Kinect.
Any good games which were for Kinect have failed and by "any good games" I mean Ryse. Lol that turned out to be absolutely awful now.
As previously pointed out just because it is there doesn't mean it will be used. Infact, the only games I remember using Six Axis have been 1st party games :L
Cloud computing means virtually bugger all to the user, especially when said user has a ****e internet.
Kinect can read your heartbeat? I bet that's accurate...Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleh
http://www.geek.com/news/using-video...reaky-1541324/Quote:
Originally Posted by Marketing
Sure is...
First issue that comes to mind here is that mostly females buy exercise DVDs, mostly males are going to buy a £430 console.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleh
"if MS makes this thing easy for game dev's"
I know this isn't what you were talking about but I'm using this quote.
Why doesn't MS make it easy for INDIE dev's and allow them to self publish and do free updates like Sony?
No one is going to buy a £400 console to use for exercise.. Everyone is buying it for the Primary purpose of it plays games.
The PS4 are scrapping including the camera thing (their "less evil" version of Kinect I guess) with every console. Price still remains the same.
Thoughts? Surely this renders that thing on the back of the PS4 controller useless now? Isn't it like trying to use a Wii remote without the sensor bar?
The camera was never coming with the PS4.
Ahh, I see. It was never confirmed for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippiewill
So basically, if you want the PS4 with the camera... It's the same price as the XB1 with the Kinect?
At least PS4 gives you the option I guess... But assuming you are a person that would use the PS4 Camera and Kinect, then in terms of value for money, they're equal, are they not?
The Kinect is technologically superior so if they were both the same cost then the Kinect is a WAAAYYY better deal. However there are a few issues with that thinking
The Kinect is always bundled.
We have not seen any PS4 + Eye bundle SKUs yet.
The PS4 Eye is cheaper than the difference between the Xbone and the PS4. (£45 vs £80)
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Originally Posted by Chippiewill
Wasn't the recent news that Sony did plan on including it with the PS4 but decided not to so the price would be less than the Xbox. It was never mentioned publicly that it was going to be included as it was a decision made before E3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kardan
I imagine that Sony would just eat the majority of the costs on a bundle anyway. It was more of a political than financial decision.
Yea they removed the camera to make the price cheaper, all i know is the camera would be able to tel if you switched seats and would flip the split screen for you. Haven't looked into the camera yet.
If you'd like to direct me to where "Xbox One" and "Heartbeat" are on that page, i'd be very interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleh
Only saying it as even fitness machines at gyms are pretty shoddy at getting heart rate monitors working efficiently, so something you don't even have connected to you? Right then.
I wasn't linking you to a xbox article, i linked you to an article which highlighted the fact that the technology is there, "Eulerian Video Magnification" and is factual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marketing
The technology exists for 3D printing. It doesn't mean my next £80 printer will be printing out aeroplanes and guns!Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleh
But seeing as it's simple software and 3D printing isn't... -.-Quote:
Originally Posted by Marketing
I wouldn't call a camera telling me what my heart rate is as simple. Is this actually built into the Xbox One, then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleh
I assume so...Quote:
Originally Posted by Marketing
Assume so? Are you completely deluded at the moment? :SQuote:
Originally Posted by Oleh
Oh look, mobile phones can now have Android 4.2 - I assume every single new Android phone will have Android 4.2 then! ?? :L
I don't know your angle tbh. It has the ability to measure your heartbeat via Eulerian Video Magnification, I'm only assuming it's built into the Xbox One, being that I'm not a developer and only have limited understanding -.-Quote:
Originally Posted by Marketing
But is Eulerian Video Magnification a part of Kinect...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleh
You say you are only assumed, yet if one quickly quotes your post from just a few hours ago...
If you notice the "can" there, that would suggest it is a fact that this is one of its skills. The exercise industry (fitness?) is dominated by companies such as Nike, Adidas, New Balance, Pulse amongst others - not Microsoft. And we then go to the exercise video industry, a relatively small market anyway, which already has huge brands that don't require a £430 console (Insanity workout, for example).Quote:
The Kinect is obviously a motion capture device.....great.....it can also read you heart beat.........Need I even say more MS will DOMINATE this market.
I didn't write that, I merely copied it from some Reddit post, so have no care what arguments are purported from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marketing
Hours meaning 2 days give or take?
Just goes to show, how little I've become or decided to care anymore.
Apologies, this thread was slower moving than I thought. So you er, copied a post from Reddit - with no reference or anything, which therefore indicates it is your post, but don't really care about what was said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleh
In response to an earlier post, I don't know why you still use the forum either lol
I'll comment properly when I get home but that was a good read.
Shouldn't come to any surprise really. 1) Microsoft are having a big reorganisation 2) He didn't do Microsoft any favours when he told people to buy an Xbox 360 instead of a One.
Just posting a few storys
European Developers Target PlayStation 4 Over Xbox One
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/07/1...-over-xbox-one
What Do Men Want From Games, Tech, and Mobile?
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/07/1...ech-and-mobile
Why Are Fans Buying a PS4 at Launch?
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/07/1...-ps4-at-launch
Still a Sony fan. Most big-name exclusives are shooters on Microsoft's console, and I just don't play them. I'm excited for Knack, preordered the bundle on Amazon :)
Also happy to see KH3 announced, maybe it'll actually show up this generation and not be pushed back (Cough, FFXV)
Got my day one edition of the Xbox One pre-ordered, just hoping for some good launch titles, BF4, Watchdogs and Forza are looking like my best bets at the moment though, looking forward to it
After seeing the Xbox One I'm definitely not going to buy it. Just looks crap compared to Sony even thought I'm a full on Microsoft guy. Think I'm just going to buy Watchdogs for PC.
Definitely the Xbox. I just cannot stand the Dualshock controllers so couldn't cope with a Playstation. My preorder was in a month or so ago but thinking I might wait and get it after Christmas now. Just isn't that much coming out at launch that interests me enough to warrant spending £500.
i wish ryse son of rome was for ps4 that is the only game i'm jelly at only being on the xbox
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Microsoft has reversed its policy and will allow independent developers to release Xbox One games without requiring a publisher. Moreover, any Xbox One console will be able to operate as a debug unit, allowing Microsoft to approve specific systems to play games that are still in development.
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Microsoft has reversed its policy and will allow independent developers to release Xbox One games without requiring a publisher.
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Microsoft has reversed its policy.
I wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing was an elaborate ploy to show consumers that Microsoft listen to their customers. I mean, I doubt it due to the amount of sales they've probably lost, but it wouldn't surprise me.
I prefer XBox One
Why? Because I like microsoft.
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Are you criticizing microsoft for changing its policy or...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Southe,
It seems that some people are SO set on the PS4 that microsoft just simply cannot do anything right.
Microsoft are criticized for the always online thing and used game charges. So what do they do?
Remove the always online thing and change the way used games work. So now they're criticized for changing their policy and just in general for 'setting off on the wrong track'.
Seriously, we know you're gonna get the PS4; you don't have to try to mock the xbox one at every given opportunity. :rolleyes: :P :P