Israel's Ground Forces Enter Gaza

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Originally Posted by Technologic

Israel have had gaza under siege for years, restricting food, water, electricity, supplies etc. Hamas want palestinians to move freely between israel and gaza and they got pissed so they started firing. Israel are the evil doers in this one, they seem to think that it is alright to completely wipe out a country's freely elected government that only wants the best for its people. The death toll in israel is nothing compared to gaza. Israel (and most conservative americans) seem to think that the collateral is acceptable. They seem to think that it's fine to kill people that go to work, go to school, have families just like they do as long as they 'kill the bad guys.'

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*** are you drunk?

Imagine you're locked in a house with 20 other people, you are not allowed out, nobody is allowed in. You receive 5 loaves of bread a day and 2 gallons of water. You have 6 hours of electricity a day.

All this is controlled by somebody on the outside who lives in essential freedom.

You have a gun.

What do you do?

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Originally Posted by Technologic

Imagine you're locked in a house with 20 other people, you are not allowed out, nobody is allowed in. You receive 5 loaves of bread a day and 2 gallons of water. You have 6 hours of electricity a day.

All this is controlled by somebody on the outside who lives in essential freedom.

You have a gun.

What do you do?

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that's irrelevant, hamas want nothing to do with Israel, they want Israel to disappear into thin air.

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Originally Posted by DaveTaylor

that's irrelevant, hamas want nothing to do with Israel, they want Israel to disappear into thin air.

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What
would
you
do?

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Originally Posted by Eddolyn

Imagine living in a country surrounded by enemies..

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Everyone hates the British, just no-one attacks us.

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Originally Posted by Eddolyn

Israel has been getting bombed, or mistreated or however you want to call it, for a great amount of time now..and it's about damn time they fought back. Yes the land was given to Jews by the UN..get over it. Move on with your life, and stick with whats happening NOW. America did the same with the indians, and people seem to ignore that fact. Great Britain used to have an expansion over the entire world, but nobody complained unless it happened to your country. But no, you only feel that Israel doesn't deserve it's land because it was given to us by the UN? I've got some news for you guys, that land would have become Israel whether it would be by force or not. There would have been a much greater war if that hadn't happened. Not to mention that the land was ORIGINALLY for Jew's, yes because of the history.

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I can't believe you actually came out with "get over it" as a way of justifying Israel. That's like coming out of WW2 and saying "hey, the world's been kicking the Jews around for centuries, they need to move on with their lives, get over it, stick to what's happening now".

As for the land being theirs historically, that's only the case if you're actually religious. Yes, the Jews inhabited the area for a long time, but they took it over from others before (cf. The Torah/The Old Testament). The idea of it "belonging" to anyone is only the same as any conquered land.

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Originally Posted by Eddolyn

Half of you don't even know the history. I can sit here and name each country/civilization that has ever attacked Israel/Jews.

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You're mistaking the modern nation of Israel with the historical misdeeds done to the Israelites of old.

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Originally Posted by Eddolyn

The amount of heartbreak Jews have faced throughout history is the disgusting crime. It's about time as I said before, that Israel does something. Israel has given countless warnings and peace treaty's, but they kept saying no.

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You're right. You're ENTIRELY right. The Jews never attacked anyone in the past, right? Oh, wait... I completely forgot about that holy book full of stories of Jewish conquests and expansions, and so did you it seems. Moreover, you have forgotten the fact that it's entirely irrelevent to the situation we're actually discussing.

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Originally Posted by Eddolyn

LOL..FlyingJesus..most of your posts made me laugh :).
"Imagine someone you really don't like. Then imagine an entire country's worth of them, and think about how you'd feel if you were forced out of your home so that they could live there."

Like I've said before, imagine a whole civilization having to move and getting captured more then 20 times by 20 different groups of people..I won't repeat everything I said, just read the above again.

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Like you've said before - precisely. All you've done is repeat yourself over and over, and I've already rebutted your single reasoning.

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Originally Posted by Dentafrice

You're just setting your opinion on what the media tells you.. and are just crying and mad because Israel hit a school full of Hamas terrorists.

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Originally Posted by Dentafrice

like you, because they base everything they know from their TV and internet

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So where do you get your opinions from? Of course we used the TV and internet, that's the entire point of the media. I don't think you can blame the school bombing for peoples' sentiments seeing as how this has been ongoing far before that.

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Originally Posted by Nad1

Sorry, you're incorrect. They're not turning to hitlers. They are trying to defend their country. Hamas and Palestinians have been throwing bombs over for EIGHT YEARS! Enough is ENOUGH! Don't be a hypocrite, a Hamas shell hit Israel just last week.

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I agree that the Hitler mention was not needed and made little sense, however..

Israel and the US military have been stealing land for EIGHT YEARS! Enough is ENOUGH! Don't be a hypocrite, Israel is the cause of this entire war.

Anybody been watching fox news, it's amazing how ignorant they are

surely people would have learnt by now that if israel have to drop the atom bomb on gaza, they will. there's no messing with the israelis.

To be fair I think most of you may as well leave the topic and you're simply ****-stirring as you have no idea of history from the past century, specifically the relations between the UK & US with Israel since WWI. Some of you think that the US supporting Israel is recent? It goes back much longer than that.

I have no feeling for Israel at all and I've been supportive of Hamas for a while now but I do feel the air-strike of the school was Hamas's fault and not Israel's for once. It hasn't been looked at this way as it's easy to blame Israel for killing innocent children but Hamas knew their activists were going to be killed by Israel, the deliberately put them in a school to either deter Israel or to put shame on Israel (And it does seem to of worked) but I think it's quite clear Hamas deserve the blame here, they simply should not of go in the school, they're the one's who are sacrificing children.

Above: Please leave Atom bombs out of this, you'll be lucky-enough to never see any within your lifetime and the rest of the world would be left with no choice but to either wipe-out Israel or invade it if they dropped an Atom bomb on Gaza, bare in mind Gaza is still part of Israel and isn't a country and although they're killing people in Gaza, they're not wiping it out.

If you want to know how powerful Atom bombs are, may I suggest going here: http://www.carloslabs.com/projects/2...roundZero.html

Put in a large town in Gaza such as Jibaliya and choose Hybrid mode then a bomb, although this is just a 'fun' resource, it's quite simple to see they'd hit their own country and potentially Egypt (Which would force an Arab attack on Israel).

Technologic, you obviously no nothing of the situation, so you should probably go research more. Jordy, yes, Israel has been killing innocent children. But tell me this, why is Hamas putting their money into building bombs and not bomb shelters for their people. Israel has built bomb shelters because for the past EIGHT YEARS, the Palestinian government has been shooting bombs and qassam rockets and catushas (spelling?) at Israel. Israel MUST defend itself. It is sick of these attacks. Do not focus ONLY on what is now, but look at what LED up to this.

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Originally Posted by Nad1

Technologic, you obviously no nothing of the situation, so you should probably go research more. Jordy, yes, Israel has been killing innocent children. But tell me this, why is Hamas putting their money into building bombs and not bomb shelters for their people. Israel has built bomb shelters because for the past EIGHT YEARS, the Palestinian government has been shooting bombs and qassam rockets and catushas (spelling?) at Israel. Israel MUST defend itself. It is sick of these attacks. Do not focus ONLY on what is now, but look at what LED up to this.

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Tell that to those who had their houses bulldozed