I said many times after this that that's not what I'm talking about. I'm just saying that I'd call them straight at that time.
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Yeah you'd call them straight cos' you wouldn't know any different - Just like before people come out, they are 'straight' because no one knows - but they are actually gay.
Anyway, I believe both contribute to it - you are born gay but the environment obviously plays a part to how you go about it ect.
THIS THREAD FRIGGN ANNOYS ME
there is so much ignorance in the pages that i actually bothered to read that it makes me want to explode
you ARE born with an inclination towards fancying certain things about people (including their sex).. that's just how it is. everyone is technically ABLE to like people of the same or opposite gender.. people just have their preferences. people often don't recognize these preferences until they begin to mature and develop sexually and emotionally.
oh, and by the way, i have five siblings and all of them are straight, whereas i'm bi and in a long-term relationship with a girl. we were all brought up in the same environment, so that shatters that argument.
5? :O Jesus.
what does it matter?
your still a miner
And the point your trying to put across... is?
What annoys me is people so stupid that they can't even take on board simple facts and logic, who refuse to change their minds even when proven wrong because they are just too stubborn.
When you are born you're a purely instinctive being, you only want to live. Nature shows that preservation of the self and preservation of the species are the foremost instincts innate to all living things, and preservation of the species of course entails mating, so while obviously we aren't born with sexual urges as our bodies can't do it at that age we almost certainly aren't born to be gay.
As for you "shattering" the argument, you should probably try reading the thread first or at least applying some logic to your reasoning. There is no way that you have had the exact same experiences as your 5 siblings, and you won't process your experiences in the same way as them either because you have different (although potentially similar) brains
I agree, you can be 'born' gay or bi, you have to turn like that, through you experiences and you child hood stuff like that!