Why... (WARNING EMO CONTENT)

When I try to explain,
All my words mubble and slip to the drain,
"Like a snowflake in a firey grip",
Trying to hide from the pain.

I try so hard to understand,
Why everything good slips from my hands,
I guess my life is damned to crash land.
I guess I'll never understand.

Sick of the torture of my painful life,
I'm scared that my friends will leave from strife,
I'm sick of all the anoyying and stupid *****,
Staying away from the knife.

The good times come and the good times pass,
But bad times scar and kill happy past,
Its what I live with, but hear what I say,
I'm sorta happy, yet everyone has to pay.

chilloutrich (Forum Moderator) - Please do not avoid the filter, thanks.
chilloutrich (Forum Moderator) - Please don't start pointless threads which are likely to cause arguements.
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Niceeee!! Pretty talented.

omg! emo content!
it burns :o xD

im not much of a poet but i do have a few emos on my contact list and thats actually pretty good in comparison ;)

It's not of a good standard. Some of the words used are a bit over-used in poems these days and adding a swear word is just stupid. Swear words and poetry just don't go well together atall. Try harder next time to think of better words/lines.

I have loads of poems, since i have depression, their pretty much about suicide, and .. uhm.. something else.
But yeah, not sharing them, hehe.
But this is good. :)

it's pretty good.

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It's not of a good standard. Some of the words used are a bit over-used in poems these days and adding a swear word is just stupid. Swear words and poetry just don't go well together atall. Try harder next time to think of better words/lines.

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Swearing is an expression of anger which is why I used it. I have better poems, but I cba to type them up...

This one was already on my PC.

And everyone else, thanks alot.

Okay.. hows this poem then?
No one cares, i want to die, **** life, its all a lie.
you say swear words dont go with poems? ive got 7 poems which have swear words in. :/ Btw that poem is made up, and i filtered it with stars. ty. x

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Okay.. hows this poem then?
No one cares, i want to die, **** life, its all a lie.
you say swear words dont go with poems? ive got 7 poems which have swear words in. :/ Btw that poem is made up, and i filtered it with stars. ty. x

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Well your poems must be crap,cos by the looks of what you wrote your a little attention seeking wannabe emo.

Helloooo i wrote that when i was going thru major depression :/
Besides, not all SELFHARMERS are damn emos.
Get that in your little thick head alright lovey? Alright.
Furthermore, you should RESEARCH selfharm, you know crap about it mate, and depression too.
And i was merely proving a point that poems can have swear words in it.
Obviously you dont read.

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Helloooo i wrote that when i was going thru major depression :/
Besides, not all SELFHARMERS are damn emos.
Get that in your little thick head alright lovey? Alright.
Furthermore, you should RESEARCH selfharm, you know crap about it mate, and depression too.
And i was merely proving a point that poems can have swear words in it.
Obviously you dont read.

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Depression is a phrase over-used, these days people don't know what true depression is. And I know not all selfharmers are emos,their wannabe emos, attention seekers or seriously depressed[like have been raped,lost a child, etc] My little thick head? Yet your the one calling me 'lovey'. Enough said there. Oh I know plenty about self-harm and depression actually 'mate' but people think their 'depressed' and begin to self harm listening to MCR thinking their all emo and depressed because they're goldfish died after having him for 2 weeks ;/ Yeah poems can have swear words in it but it looks stupid and ******,like I expect yours does. And why all the boldness? I'll read your point either way and prove you wrong either way,using bold font doesn't make me read it even more.

Excuse moi, i was diagnosed with depression, so im more than capable of knowing about it more so than yourself.
And you obviously dont know sarcasm very well.
Selfharm is not attention seeking, some people do it cause their 'emo', 'goth', or do want attention, but i do not do it for them reasons, 1. I hate people who label themselfs 2. I hate people who label me when they know crap about me and 3. If i wanted attention, id find a less dangerous and fun way in doing so. And i dont listen to gay stupid depressing music, i listen to techno, and rnb. Not fricken Evanescence, or Linkin Park :/ If i was an attention seeker, id be out their and showing my cuts off, and shouting OH GIVE ME ATTENTION IM A EMO WANANBE, COME OVER HERE AND HUG ME I NEED ATTENTION! HELP ME! :/

Can someone please close this it is getting out of hand.
and craig there is no reason to be rude.

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Excuse moi, i was diagnosed with depression, so im more than capable of knowing about it more so than yourself.
And you obviously dont know sarcasm very well.
Selfharm is not attention seeking, some people do it cause their 'emo', 'goth', or do want attention, but i do not do it for them reasons, 1. I hate people who label themselfs 2. I hate people who label me when they know crap about me and 3. If i wanted attention, id find a less dangerous and fun way in doing so. And i dont listen to gay stupid depressing music, i listen to techno, and rnb. Not fricken Evanescence, or Linkin Park :/ If i was an attention seeker, id be out their and showing my cuts off, and shouting OH GIVE ME ATTENTION IM A EMO WANANBE, COME OVER HERE AND HUG ME I NEED ATTENTION! HELP ME! :/

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I never said you didn't know about it and to be honest you can't know if you know more about depression than me cos you really can't say cos you don't know what I learn/read/know about. Actually get your facts straight,a high percentage of self harm is attention seeking, very few that do it are actually fully depressed. I don't label myself nor have I done in this or any thread so I haven't 'labelled myself' as you put it. I don't know crap about you,I know that you write little poems that are like 'I WANNA DIE' and all that crap like it when tbh your just taking a more subtle way about it and self harming, if you were that depressed you wouldn't want to live and probably wouldn't wanna be here. But in most scenario's I don't get why people don't want to live because nothing much has happened to them, note I said most, not all. Define 'gay stupid depressing' music for me please? What sort of bands go into this 'genre'? No instead you seek attention by posting in someones thread 'I have loads of poems, since i have depression, their pretty much about suicide, and .. uhm.. something else. But yeah, not sharing them, hehe.
But this is good.' Well to be honest she didn't want to know about your poems she wanted feedback on her own poems. But you had to tell this thread you had depression and write poems about suicide, well start your own thread on it.

Actually, GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT, not very many attention seek, because if they did, why the hell do i have friends who selfharm and it took them around 3 years to actually say anything. Hm? I call that not attention seeking. And in this school i go too, stupid may i say, most people their cut themselfs, theirs around 10 peoplewho go their, and 8 of them cut, and they dont attention seek AT ALL, if they did why the hell do thye cover it up, and clam up when the subject on selfharm comes up Hm?
And i write poems not to get attention, not to be a wannabe emo, but to express myself in PRVIATE, ever noticed i havent fricken posted any poems except that one on THIS forum, and one other forum which supports with disorders/whatever, hm? I wrote that poem when i was going through major depression, so i quite frankley dont see how thats attention seeking, i mean you dont see me going around on this forum saying 'OH LOOK AT ME IM DEPRESSED I CUT, IM SUICIDAL, I WANT TO DIE, KILL ME, I WANT TO BE IN HELL, I WANT PAIN, I WANT TO WHATEVER' recently have you? Didnt think so. The first thread i made on here was when i was going through deep depression and needed advice, apart from that, nop i dont see any others saying that. Hm, interesting.
Next disagreement..
All i did, was read this thread, and compliment the poem, since it was deep, and emotional.
Who exactly said i wanted too live? Hm? Who exactly said all my poems are about suicide and selfharm? Hm? Not me. Not me at all.
The bands that go into emo/goth are depressive, deep and dark. And i cba to name them all cause im too busy talking too someone, and im in a rush too go and watch TV.
And you know crap about me, you dont know my full name, you dont know my life, you dont know my family, you dont know ANYTHING. Your just a selfish stubborn freak who things your 'all that' and 'a know it all'.
Well buckle up, cause your not a know it all, quite frankley i know more about selfharm than you do. You consider is attention seeking right? And emo? Oh you know CRAP ABOUT SELFHARM. Just get a life, you seriously need one, your probably a fat geek just sitting at the PC trying to prove your always right.

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Actually, GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT, not very many attention seek, because if they did, why the hell do i have friends who selfharm and it took them around 3 years to actually say anything. Hm? I call that not attention seeking. And in this school i go too, stupid may i say, most people their cut themselfs, theirs around 10 peoplewho go their, and 8 of them cut, and they dont attention seek AT ALL, if they did why the hell do thye cover it up, and clam up when the subject on selfharm comes up Hm?
And i write poems not to get attention, not to be a wannabe emo, but to express myself in PRVIATE, ever noticed i havent fricken posted any poems except that one on THIS forum, and one other forum which supports with disorders/whatever, hm? I wrote that poem when i was going through major depression, so i quite frankley dont see how thats attention seeking, i mean you dont see me going around on this forum saying 'OH LOOK AT ME IM DEPRESSED I CUT, IM SUICIDAL, I WANT TO DIE, KILL ME, I WANT TO BE IN HELL, I WANT PAIN, I WANT TO WHATEVER' recently have you? Didnt think so. The first thread i made on here was when i was going through deep depression and needed advice, apart from that, nop i dont see any others saying that. Hm, interesting.
Next disagreement..
All i did, was read this thread, and compliment the poem, since it was deep, and emotional.
Who exactly said i wanted too live? Hm? Who exactly said all my poems are about suicide and selfharm? Hm? Not me. Not me at all.
The bands that go into emo/goth are depressive, deep and dark. And i cba to name them all cause im too busy talking too someone, and im in a rush too go and watch TV.
And you know crap about me, you dont know my full name, you dont know my life, you dont know my family, you dont know ANYTHING. Your just a selfish stubborn freak who things your 'all that' and 'a know it all'.
Well buckle up, cause your not a know it all, quite frankley i know more about selfharm than you do. You consider is attention seeking right? And emo? Oh you know CRAP ABOUT SELFHARM. Just get a life, you seriously need one, your probably a fat geek just sitting at the PC trying to prove your always right.

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Just because you've had some friends that self harmed and not for attention seeking it doesn't mean that the rest of the world doesnt have a large percentage who do it for attention seeking ;/

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And i write poems not to get attention, not to be a wannabe emo, but to express myself in PRVIATE, ever noticed i havent fricken posted any poems except that one on THIS forum, and one other forum which supports with disorders/whatever, hm?

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Then why 'flaunt' it when theres a discussing on someone else's poems, if you 'express yourself in private' you wouldnt be telling a forum with 1000's of people on, that you write them atall.

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All i did, was read this thread, and compliment the poem, since it was deep, and emotional

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Yeah but you had to add 'I write lots of poems about suicide and other stuff', you couldnt just say 'Oh nice poem,keep up the good work' or give some C+C. You had to say that you write suicidal poems ;/

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The bands that go into emo/goth are depressive, deep and dark. And i cba to name them all cause im too busy talking too someone, and im in a rush too go and watch TV

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I didn't ask for ones that are depressive, I wanted to know which ones you thought were 'gay stupid and depressing', not all 'emo/goth' songs are like that. So name me the ones you think are 'gay stupid and depressing'.

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And you know crap about me, you dont know my full name, you dont know my life, you dont know my family, you dont know ANYTHING

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Right to be honest I don't want or need to know your full name or your family. Them two hold no revelance as to this subject on suicidal poems. I have decepted enough about you to know that you were 'depressed' and 'suicidal',the reason I have put them in '' tags are because I don't know this for a fact and for all I know you could be making this up,but you could be telling the truth so I haven't said your making it up.

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Your just a selfish stubborn freak who things your 'all that' and 'a know it all'.

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If I was selfish I wouldn't have given her constructive criticism on this thread, and I wouldn't give advice to people I don't even know in real life[Like I have done in other threads] so that selfish name calling is out of the window. Me stubborn? Nope I just stick to my point and prove it,I have room for other's opinions but if they go against mine I have the right to make a point against other's opinions. Freak? Now what happened to you 'not labelling people' ;/ Also define freak please, I'm sure you could cause some outrage with your definition, and yes YOURS not some online dictionary or whatever.

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Well buckle up, cause your not a know it all, quite frankley i know more about selfharm than you do. You consider is attention seeking right? And emo? Oh you know CRAP ABOUT SELFHARM.

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I never claimed to be a 'know it all'. So again your claim is false as I never claimed to know it all. You know more about self harm? Oh because of the marks on your arm? Well no that doesn't mean you do, and you don't know more about self harm than me because you don't know how much I know on self harm. I didn't say all self harm was for attention seeking and to try and be emo, but there is a high percentage that is and you'd be quite shocked to see how many. Not that you'd accept that because you think most people that slit are depressed ;/ Well that's false.

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Just get a life, you seriously need one, your probably a fat geek just sitting at the PC trying to prove your always right.

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Me get a life? Coming from the girl who wrote suicidal poems and stuff? That is a joke - if you want to be all suicidal go and kill yourself, don't write poems about it. DO IT. Me a 'fat geek'? Well I'm not fat, infact I weigh about 10 stone,am nearly 6ft tall and 16 years old. That doesn't seem fat to me missy. And again define the word 'geek' as I'd love to know what you think one is.

craig you need to eat more iam 16 and iam 6ft 1 i way 11 stone and iam skinny.

Geek=
Likei said, a know it all stuck up two faced freak.
Freak=
Someone who doesnt know anything their on about, is writing pathetic posts, weird and completley talking freakish when really they know im right in this situation.
What, you think i know about selfharm because of the marks on my body, ( not all people just cut on their arms/wrists y'no), sorry 'mr.perfect', but i research it everyday and help people with it.
Soz, but i dont believe anything you say about your appearance until proof. And dont call me missy, you may be older than me by a some time, but im not a missy.
And again, for the third time, i was exampling that some poems can have swear words in. Just so happens you came along, AGAIN, and called me an emo. Which i dislike, and certainly disagree with.
And why would I be shocked with the percentage of how many cut because their emo or want attention hm? Because from being in an enviourment with a sister who cut for attention, i wouldnt be shocked at all.
Sorry, but ill kill myself when i want too, and certainly for someone whos WORTH dying for, not for someone like you who tells me to just go 'do it'.
Okay, seriously, why would i waste my time writing these posts if i wasnt telling the truth huh? I could be doing better things right now, but instead i choose too explain something you need to get in your head.
Im sick of people calling me an emo just because of a single tiny poem, you know crap about my life alright? So dont fricken go assuming im a wannabe emo, or attention seeker. You may want to prove right, but your not always right.
Like they say, not everyones perfect.
And if you wish to continue debating/arguing with me about this pathetic subject, do so, but id rather not since i dislike writing paragraphs of explanations proving your wrong/explaining a few things too you.

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Geek=
Likei said, a know it all stuck up two faced freak.

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That is not the definition of a geek ;/

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Freak=
Someone who doesnt know anything their on about, is writing pathetic posts, weird and completley talking freakish when really they know im right in this situation.

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Again this isnt the definition for a freak. If needed I will get people to back me up on those definitions. Seriously you need to start learning instead of slitting.

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What, you think i know about selfharm because of the marks on my body, ( not all people just cut on their arms/wrists y'no), sorry 'mr.perfect', but i research it everyday and help people with it.

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I know not all people cut their arms/wrists,there is other places on the body. And if you research it you would know that alot of people attention seek by slitting ;/

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And again, for the third time, i was exampling that some poems can have swear words in. Just so happens you came along, AGAIN, and called me an emo. Which i dislike, and certainly disagree with.

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Yeah and I was saying my opinion that poems sound crap with swear words in,unless their carefully constructed. I came along? I have been on this forum for a longer time than you. I didn't call you an emo I called you an emo poser actually,get your facts straight ;/ Also you don't like me calling you an emo? Well you just contradicted yourself by calling me a geek and a freak. Not that you will admit your wrong but I will point that out.

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Soz, but i dont believe anything you say about your appearance until proof. And dont call me missy, you may be older than me by a some time, but im not a missy.

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Well I can get all the forum members that have seen me on cam/seen me, such as Helen,Smiddy1234,massacre[kassie] and any others that have seen me to prove your wrong ;/

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And why would I be shocked with the percentage of how many cut because their emo or want attention hm? Because from being in an enviourment with a sister who cut for attention, i wouldnt be shocked at all.

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Well then stop going on saying 'not many people slit for attention and most do it because their depressed', you've contradicted yourself again.

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Sorry, but ill kill myself when i want too, and certainly for someone whos WORTH dying for, not for someone like you who tells me to just go 'do it

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If you want to kill yourself when you want to then stop writing stupid little attention seeking suicide poems about and stop doing small little slitty marks on you and do the real thing, if you were 'so depressed' then you would have ended it all ;/

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Okay, seriously, why would i waste my time writing these posts if i wasnt telling the truth huh? I could be doing better things right now, but instead i choose too explain something you need to get in your head.

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Explain what needs to get into my head exactly, as the points you have stupidly explained are already in my head.

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You may want to prove right, but your not always right.

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I know I'm not always right, no-one is always right ;/

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And if you wish to continue debating/arguing with me about this pathetic subject, do so, but id rather not since i dislike writing paragraphs of explanations proving your wrong/explaining a few things too you.

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Proving me wrong? ROFL. I have just proved you wrong and proved you contradicted yourself in 1 paragraph. END OF. But at the end of the day you won't admit defeat and you won't admit you contradicted yourself ;/

I am not posting here to argue. Frankly I find this something of a petty thread... But my general interest in psychology has got the better of me and I would like to post my theory on cutting.
Of course, some cutting is a form of attention seeking, yet it would be foolish for us to generalise on that basis.
Most cutting is a form of control; those who cut do so because it makes them feel they have power, it is almost like no one else can hurt them as much as one can hurt themselves. This particular 'type' [horrible word to use] of cutters are the ones who keep it a secret, idealistically no one will ever find out that they are partaking in such activity. Only those who flaunt cutting are the ones who seek attention.

I think this ''fight'' is pointless because I doubt you'll change Craig's opinion on this. I support him in a way but not completely, now I think the smartest should stop posting on this thread. You both proved your points ^_^

Craig, im not wasting my time on you, and i said if i wanted too kill myself didnt say i want too today, and i selfharm for reasons which ill never tell you. So either leave it, or carry on being an 'know it all' and explain your theory on this stupid subject. All i did was comment on this poem, sure i did submit a poem myself, proving that somepoems can have swear words in it, and no i didnt have to say all that stuff about my personal life too what could be a popular forum. But, hey I did. If i could rewind time, and never of registered on here, id do so happily. All you do is cause me grief. So why dont you toodle off and do it someone else, cause quite frankley, i dont need crap from you, or 'being proven wrong' by you.
Yeah, i know im in the wrong sometimes, but when it comes to people calling me emo, im not just gonna sit here and allow that, because 1. Dont label me,2. I dont label myself, so what gives you the right to label me, 3. Labels are for wannabes and 4. If i was an emo, dont you think id be bragging about my cuts on cam and outside and pictures? I was merely trying to explain something, yah i was in the wrong, i apoligize for calling you those 'somewhat nasty' words, * '' them because not sure if it was even nasty too you*, i had no right in posting a poem on someone elses thread, and dont say im an emo or attention seeker anymore, because im not, and if i was, im quite sure i wouldnt be bragging my selfharm/other issues i have it too people on the internet, id probably be bragging it too my family/friends.
And people say i would never admit im wrong.
I dont brag about my issues, i didnt before either, you think im proud? Pfft, think again.

Ok readin through this thread and the arguements pathetic. Craig you think every self harmer does it for attention. You need to get that out of your head because it isn't true. People do get down / depressed and your nobody to judge whether its true depression or just feeling down. So yea shut up craig.

Plus +rep to you Bang Bang

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Plus +rep to you Bang Bang

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Lol ty..

As much as I'd like to debate some more I intend on going to play football soon,so sorry for calling you a poser if your not one. But if you are one them I'm not:P But you seem to be saying your not so I geuss your not.

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As much as I'd like to debate some more I intend on going to play football soon,so sorry for calling you a poser if your not one. But if you are one them I'm not:P But you seem to be saying your not so I geuss your not.

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Meh, whats made you such a peace maker all the sudden?

Right.. glad thats over with.
Have a good football game.

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Meh, whats made you such a peace maker all the sudden?

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Maybe hes took in what you said. :) But yeah anyway, lets just forget this. <3
Sugar sorry i double posted :(

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Maybe hes took in what you said. :) But yeah anyway, lets just forget this. <3

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Lmao, the day craig listens to anyone on this subject is the day habbox starts letting people voice their opinions without being banned :rolleyes:

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Meh, whats made you such a peace maker all the sudden?

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My wise words, of course. :8

Craig, watch argentina later.

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Ok readin through this thread and the arguements pathetic. Craig you think every self harmer does it for attention. You need to get that out of your head because it isn't true. People do get down / depressed and your nobody to judge whether its true depression or just feeling down. So yea shut up craig.

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Cassie you seem to be not able to read,I never stated in this thread every self harmer does it for attention. Your wrong there ;/ Not that you'd admit it, seeing as you never do. I know people get down/depressed but alot of people get depressed over stupid little things and then call themself emo and stuff. ;/


And yeah Kyle I will,should be a good game with the winners of the group probably playing England further on in. ;o :p

Kyle your words are never wise :P

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Ok readin through this thread and the arguements pathetic. Craig you think every self harmer does it for attention. You need to get that out of your head because it isn't true. People do get down / depressed and your nobody to judge whether its true depression or just feeling down. So yea shut up craig.

Cassie you seem to be not able to read,I never stated in this thread every self harmer does it for attention. Your wrong there ;/ Not that you'd admit it, seeing as you never do. I know people get down/depressed but alot of people get depressed over stupid little things and then call themself emo and stuff and get a major fringe aswell. ;/

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No you don't actually state it but it is what you imply. And no craig only a few very very pathetic people get depressed and call themselves emo. but in teenage years little things do tend to upset people "/

Oh mercyful glory!(so cant spell) *bows down* Lol, anyway. ^_^ Just be glad he listened too ya yar? Or he just had to go. :rolleyes: :D
And now the debate has began. Well im shooting of before someone quotes this reply :( Bye <3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUlt4...h=Emokid210hio

That video is seriously emo. lol. Sorry it is. Hense his name.

I cba watching it what is it?

pórno.

This guy whos reading a depressive poem sayin its what he feels and like.. just.. weird. lol... kinda emo. but whatever.

oh. i cba turning my music off for it :P