5 Million from Cardiff.
Watched him play, he's good and will hopefully help us :).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ty/7445528.stm
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5 Million from Cardiff.
Watched him play, he's good and will hopefully help us :).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ty/7445528.stm
Yeah, he is a good player. All the top teams were after him.
Arsene Wenger buying more cheapo youngsters. Well atleast he's British.
Another player who will come good in 3 years and not now.
At least hes British, thats a good start.
He's Welsh. If he was English you would say he's English. Now, you know why Welsh people say "Welsh not British" You don't call English players British, you call them English. It really annoys me. Petty, I know, but it annoys me.
He's not British, he's Welsh just as I'm English, not British.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardiff.City
It's as bad as saying, well at least the majority of the Arsenal squad are European...
Technically, he's British but I hate how people refer to Welsh people as British and refer to English people as English.Quote:
Originally Posted by hub
Well, its just the most of us are English so we take an intrest in the Home Nations but not as much as if he was English.
That's what he said... Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by hub
I haven't seen him play except for vs. Portsmouth.
So I don't really rate him...
So glad he didn't sign for Man Utd. Serves that arrogant ******, Fergie, right. I can't stand that man.
This whole "Arsenal don't have any British players" crap is boring me now. It's gone on for years and generally comes from armchair fans. Arsenals youth/reserve squad consists majorly of British players.
Does it make sense to anybody else that buying an English player for £30m is ridiculous when you can buy a similar talent from a fraction of that price?
£5m isn't cheap, that's purely Premiership attitude.Quote:
Arsene Wenger buying more cheapo youngsters. Well atleast he's British.
Considering the guy is possibly as good as Walcott and Bale who went for much more than that, it is quite cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loser
Well said @ LoserQuote:
Originally Posted by Cardiff.City
and to cardiff, i think hes saying compared to what we normally get. £5 for someone that is hardly rated is good. As we cant get Nasri til after Euro :(
Yeah, but we're hardly in a position in which we can demand such a price. I agree, it should have been more, but we can't do anything about it until Sam Hamman pisses off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardiff.City
Yes but, although one person may not make a team, he could have helped us to try and push into the Premier League therefore earning the club much more than the transfer fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loser
Hence why the big clubs offered now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardiff.City
Hence why we should have asked for more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loser
Which brings us back around to this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardiff.City
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Originally Posted by Loser
Arsenal only have one British player who is like a first team player and that's Theo Walcott. United for example have Rooney, Hargreaves, Scholes, Giggs, Ferdinand and Wes Brown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loser
It does make sense, however in my opinion, international football is suffering because of it.Quote:
Does it make sense to anybody else that buying an English player for £30m is ridiculous when you can buy a similar talent from a fraction of that price?
Compared to what Arsenal can afford, and bring to the club it is. Surely they could tempt a real top class midfielder? And someone who is instantly great and like hub said, not become great in 3 years time.Quote:
£5m isn't cheap, that's purely Premiership attitude.
Ahah he screwed Man U over. Good lad.
He's a decent player, only 17!
Good to see us Cardiff players going out.
A very talented player! I have seen him play and looks very good! Wish him the best of luck at Arsenal
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Originally Posted by Browney
Arsenal have more than 1 english player in the first team squad. He is nearly always on the bench and that is Justin hoyte. Also, Gavin Hoyte (Justins brother) is in the first squad. You just dont see them as much, but even though i support Arsenal, whats the point in having 6/7 english players that cannot play football, (not saying anything about united players) when you can get 6/7 young international players for half the price who are great?
Kick racism out of football and all you ever hear is - Arsenal only buy foreign players. Well its true but who cares? Jealous much?
Considerring the majority of Arsenals youth/reserve team is British, aswell as having the Hoyte brothers in the first team (and now Ramsey), I wouldn't say they have too little British players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Browney
International football isn't suffering. English football is apparently 'suffering'. When I don't see any problems for English football. The whole of the first team, second team and U21 team are generally from the top flight.Quote:
It does make sense, however in my opinion, international football is suffering because of it.
It's a non-problem as far as I'm concerned, just an excuse and a way to shift the blame away from grassroots football. That is where the real problems are.
That isn't the Arsenal way and I applaud the fact that they want nurture talent. It's better than joining the boom and spending £50m in every transfer window.Quote:
Compared to what Arsenal can afford, and bring to the club it is. Surely they could tempt a real top class midfielder? And someone who is instantly great and like hub said, not become great in 3 years time.
AgreedQuote:
Originally Posted by Loser
Yeah but I don't rate youth or reserve at all. Not just arsenals youth or reserve but every youth or reserve. and to your point about Ramsey, thats exactly what I said in my first post. "Atleast he's British." I was applauding Arsenal on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loser
I can't see how really great players will emerge unless they get to play with other really great players like the players at the big four. So maybe suffering was the wrong word but maybe hampering. Because you get players like Dean Ashton or Gabriel Agbonlahor who are good but could do with taking the next step to a real contender in Europe so they experience big matches.Quote:
International football isn't suffering. English football is apparently 'suffering'. When I don't see any problems for English football. The whole of the first team, second team and U21 team are generally from the top flight.
It's a non-problem as far as I'm concerned, just an excuse and a way to shift the blame away from grassroots football. That is where the real problems are.
Well thats fair enough but it almost looks like Arsenal become a feeder club, just a club who buys young players, nurture them, make them great then sell them on. But hey, what do I know.Quote:
That isn't the Arsenal way and I applaud the fact that they want nurture talent. It's better than joining the boom and spending £50m in every transfer window.
Haha good post. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Loquent
why was that a good post?Quote:
Originally Posted by Browney
Sorry if someone's pointed this out, but with all the class players Arsenal have what are the chances of him getting a starting place.
Hleb, Flamini and Rosicky have either left or are supposed to be leaving.Quote:
Originally Posted by zMalouda
He has officially signed now.
The only reason why people are saying the influx of foreign players into the Premiership is ruining English football is because England are rubbish at international football. On paper, England are probably the best team in the world, however, on the field they just don't play well together.
This is the reason, in my opinion, why Arsenal do not have many English players in their side. I mean, look at Liverpool, trying to capture Gareth Barry and Villa want £18m for him. What's the point in that when Arsenal are getting Nasri for £12m and he's much younger and much more talented but he's not English.
I couldn't agree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by hub
If it wasn't for these foreign players, the Premier League wouldn't be like it is now. People like Gerrard and Lampard wouldn't be playing against the likes of Ronaldo every week. England's national team wouls suffer more without the foreign players as how well English teams do in Europe is a factor of ranking. If Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool weren't doing well, England wouldn't be that high in the rankings.
Didn't Wenger say Ramsey can play across the back 4 aswell, today? So he can play across midfield and defence? Jack of all trades there.
More of a right or left-back. I don't think he has the attributes of a central defender, more of an attacking midfielder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Browney
lets just hope Wenger doesn't ruin Ramsey like he did to Jeffers, but im so glad he signed for Arsenal and not Man Utd.
Everton were always the 3rd favourite, and no suprises.
about Barry & Gerrards, theres rumours about the England players rules coming in 2 years where you have to have certain numbers of the squad English, therefore it makes sence. im hoping he stays at Villa.
To be honest, I don't think Jeffers ever had the capability to become a top striker.
He looks good, i hope we get nasri.
Fabianksi
Sagna Djourou Bordon Clichy
Walcott Ramsey Nasri Rosicky
Eduardo Villa
What a team.
Oh just get rid of fabregas why don't you.Quote:
Originally Posted by hub
How about tinkering with the midfield slightly
Walcott Fabregas Nasri Ramsey
3-5-2
Get rid of Djourou (L)