Is this PC any good...

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21-09-2008, 10:40 AM
Hitman

Is this PC any good...

Hey, I want to know if this computer is any good. I know a bit about computers but some of the things on the chipset I have no idea about. It has 8GB RAM so I expect it'll be fast, no idea how good the processor is or any of that chipset stuff.

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• Processor
• Intel ® Pentium Dual Core E2200
• Processor speed: 2.20 GHz,
• Processor Memory: 1M cache, 800 MHz FSB

Chipset
• MS7502 (G33 + ICH9DH)
• FSB 800/1066/1333-dual ch.
• 4 DIMM slot
• ALC888 8 ch. Audio
• 1x PCIe x16
• 1x PCIe x1
• 2 x PCI
• 6 x SATA
• LAN 10/100-IEEE-12 x USB (6x rear / 6x intern)
• coax & optical SPDIF out
• 1 x COM

Operative system
• Microsoft OS Windows Vista Home Basic (OEM) incl. DVD playback

Graphics card
• nVidia GeForce 9300GS (D9M-20) - 256 MB - DVI-I/D-SUB - DTV

Hard drive
• 640GB 7200 rpm SATA

Optical Drive
• LG GH20NS10 (SATA)

Connectivity
• LAN 10/100 Mbit
• IEEE1394/Firewire
• Card Reader

Memory
• 8GB DDR2-PC5200 RAM (4x2GB) (667MHz)

Sound
• 8-Channel Audio on board

Thanks!
21-09-2008, 10:41 AM
J0SH

Seems decent but I'm not sure about the 8GB memory, that's not the actual HD is it? :P Hello Tom, long time no speak. ;)
21-09-2008, 10:44 AM
Hitman

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Originally Posted by Josh

Seems decent but I'm not sure about the 8GB memory, that's not the actual HD is it? :P Hello Tom, long time no speak. ;)

The 8GB Memory is RAM and the HDD is 640GB. :P I already have a 500GB external HDD so thats over 1TB in total. :D I forgot to mention it's only €499.00 which is £392 roughly.
21-09-2008, 10:46 AM
J0SH

Oh right my eyes hurt so I didn't read it only briefly :P We need to catch up sometime ;)
21-09-2008, 10:47 AM
Recursion

Memory, fricken amazing, processor... not so much
21-09-2008, 10:52 AM
Hitman

I'll message you on MSN sometime I'm on, Josh.

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Originally Posted by *****

Memory, fricken amazing, processor... not so much

Would it run pretty fast though? My current laptop has:

AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile
Technoligy TL-50
1.60GHZ, 896 MB if RAM

Yes, I know, the RAM is terrible. What's the processor like?
21-09-2008, 10:56 AM
Stephen!

When you get past 2GB, you won't notice the difference in speed if you add more RAM.
21-09-2008, 10:58 AM
Hitman

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Originally Posted by Stephen

When you get past 2GB, you won't notice the difference in speed if you add more RAM.

But surely a PC with 2GB RAM will only open so many programs (without becoming slow) and the 8GB RAM will be able to open 4 times as much.
21-09-2008, 11:00 AM
Stephen!

Yes, but considering that's like what, 30 programs? With everyday things like browsing the web you won't feel a thing.
21-09-2008, 11:04 AM
Hitman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen

Yes, but considering that's like what, 30 programs? With everyday things like browsing the web you won't feel a thing.

Okay cheers Stephen. What about the processor, is it okay or would something else be better?
21-09-2008, 11:04 AM
dirrty

i may be wrong, but if the vista home basic is 32-bit, then it only supports up to 4GB ram. whereas the 64-bit can support up to 8GB ram. so which one is it? soz if i am wrong lol.
21-09-2008, 11:05 AM
Stephen!

Well, the processor has a great price/performance ratio.
21-09-2008, 11:27 AM
Hitman

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Originally Posted by dirrty

i may be wrong, but if the vista home basic is 32-bit, then it only supports up to 4GB ram. whereas the 64-bit can support up to 8GB ram. so which one is it? soz if i am wrong lol.

I think you're right, I'm guessing this computer is 64-bit though because of the 8GB RAM.

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Well, the processor has a great price/performance ratio.

How good is this computer? Would it run as fast as the other one (if it had Photoshop, Firefox, MSN, Ares, AVG and Microsoft Word running at the same time)?

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• Processor:
- Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180
- Processor Speed: 2.0 GHz
- Processor Memory: 1 MB
- Chipset: Nvidia MCP73VE

• Memory:
- Capacity: 2 GB
- Distribution of Memory: 2 x 1GB
- Type: DDR II 667 RAM

• Hard disk:
- Capacity: 320 GB
- Controller: SATA 3.0Gb / s
- Speed: 7200 rpm

• Graphics card:
- Nvidia GeForce 7050
- Video memory: up to 896 MB

• Optical scan: DVD RW

• Includes monitor X163WB 15.6 "

• Connections:
- Ports PS / 2: 2
- Serial Ports: 1
- Parallel Port: 1
- Front Audio Connections: 2
- Rear Audio Connections: 6
- Connections Video: VGA
- Graphics Expansion Slot: PCIe
- PCI Ports: 2 x PCI, 1 x PCIe 1X, 1 x PCIe 16X
- Front USB Ports: 2
- Rear USB Ports: 4
- FireWire (IEEE1394): 1 rear (6 pin)

• System features:
- Wireless: Realtek 8211BL, GB PHY, 10/100/1000
- Firewire EES 1394
- 6 x USB
- Readers multihomed "18 in 1": Memory Stick, Memory Stick PROTM, MagiGate Memory Stick, Memory Stick Duo (with MS adapter), Memory Stick Pro Duo (with MS adapter), MagiGate Duo (with MS adapter), Type I CompactFlashTM , CompactFlashTM Type II CF + Microdrive, SmartMedia (SM), Secure Digital (SD), Mini Secure Digital (Mini SDD) (with SD Adapter), MultiMediaCard (MMC), Seucre MultiMediaCard (SMMC), Reduced Size MultiMediaCard (RS MMC) (with MMC Adapter), TransFlash (with SD Adapter) and xD Cards (plus one Fireware 4 pin port).
- Audio: Realtek ALC888S, High Definition 7.1
- Keyboard
- Mouse
- Source Power: 250W

• Physical characteristics:
- Dimensions: 180 (W) x 441.5 (D) x 359 (H)
- Weight: 15 kg.

• Operating system: Windows Vista Home Premium

MONITOR ACER X163WB

• Interface Type:
- Video - High-Density 15 pin D-shell (VGA)
- Size: 16 in
- Format: 16:9
- Resolution: 1366 x 768 (WXGA)
- Response Time: 8 ms
- Contrast Ratio: 500:1

• Display:
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• Contrast: 500:1
- Brightness: 250 cd/m2
- Response Time: 8 ms
- Resolution: 1366 x 768 (WXGA)
- Size: 16 in
- Width / Height: 16:9
- Size: 16 in

• Interface:
- Connectors: Video - High-Density 15 pin D-shell (VGA)

That includes a screen and is only €398.99.
21-09-2008, 11:31 AM
Leetzgirl

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Originally Posted by Hitman

I think you're right, I'm guessing this computer is 64-bit though because of the 8GB RAM.

How good is this computer? Would it run as fast as the other one (if it had Photoshop, Firefox, MSN, Ares, AVG and Microsoft Word running at the same time)?

That includes a screen and is only €398.99.

That just crapper.
21-09-2008, 11:33 AM
benno123

Where are you getting these configurations from? They're very unbalanced.

The first one has 8gb ram, a big hdd but vista basic and a pentium dual core processor? You wouldn't have any use for 8gb ram. You wouldn't notice much difference, and it'd have to have a 64bit processor. Also, you should at least get a intel core 2 duo. Pentium Dual cores aren't exactly very high performers.

That one you just posted would be a better choice, but I'd still upgrade the processor.
21-09-2008, 11:40 AM
Hitman

Quote:

Originally Posted by benno123

Where are you getting these configurations from? They're very unbalanced.

The first one has 8gb ram, a big hdd but vista basic and a pentium dual core processor? You wouldn't have any use for 8gb ram. You wouldn't notice much difference, and it'd have to have a 64bit processor. Also, you should at least get a intel core 2 duo. Pentium Dual cores aren't exactly very high performers.

That one you just posted would be a better choice, but I'd still upgrade the processor.

From PC City (Spain's PC World). I'll have a look around some sites and if I find any other computers I'll post their specs for somebody to evaluate. :P I'll keep my eye out for that processor, thanks.
21-09-2008, 12:02 PM
Hitman

Can't edit and I'm adding more information.

How's this Processor? It's AMD... sorry for the crummy translation, the page was Spanish. It has 6GB RAM, so I suppose it'll be 64-bit.

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• Processor: AMD Phenom 4 CORES WITH REAL: THE MOST POWERFUL PROCESSOR MARKET
- AMD Phenom 9500
- 2.2 GHz

• Memory: 6 GB

• Hard disk:
- Capacity: 500 GB
- Type: SATA
- Speed: 7200 rpm

• Graphics card:
- Nvidia GeForce 8600 GS
- Video Memory: 256 MB to 3070 MB

• Optical scan: DVD ReWriter double layer
21-09-2008, 01:20 PM
StefanCampbell1

Chose the first p.c you posted about, but if you can downgrade it to 4GB Ram, and get vista home premium, what's the point in having basic on a pc like that with 8/4GB ram, i don't quite get that? but you, with that 2.4 processor (i think that's what it was, cba to check again) should run nicely with 4GB ram and that hard drive on home premium..

Just my thoughts.
22-09-2008, 07:38 AM
benno123

That AMD one is pretty good. AMD Phenom processors are very good and it seems a lot better than the other ones :)
22-09-2008, 10:13 AM
HotelUser

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Originally Posted by benno123

That AMD one is pretty good. AMD Phenom processors are very good and it seems a lot better than the other ones :)

Intel > AMD :)

And 2.0Ghz Duo core and 8GB ram is probably going to be fine for you. Unless you use photoshop, WoW and Flight Simulator at the same time :D.

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Originally Posted by dirrty

i may be wrong, but if the vista home basic is 32-bit, then it only supports up to 4GB ram. whereas the 64-bit can support up to 8GB ram. so which one is it? soz if i am wrong lol.

Actually you're almost correct. 32bit Vista will recognize around 3.3Gb of RAM. Vista Basic 64bit allows upto 8GB, and 64bit Ultimate allows upto 128GB of ram.
22-09-2008, 03:28 PM
---MAD---

You will need to run 64-bit Windows Vista to make use of that much ram. Windows (XP and Vista) only support up to 4gb ram (unless you switch to 64 bit).
22-09-2008, 03:32 PM
N!ck

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Originally Posted by HotelUser

Intel > AMD :)

And 2.0Ghz Duo core and 8GB ram is probably going to be fine for you. Unless you use photoshop, WoW and Flight Simulator at the same time :D.

It's a Pentium D, not a C2D. Big difference ;).

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Originally Posted by HotelUser

Actually you're almost correct. 32bit Vista will recognize around 3.3Gb of RAM. Vista Basic 64bit allows upto 8GB, and 64bit Ultimate allows upto 128GB of ram.

It is 4GB including graphics memory and RAM.
22-09-2008, 03:32 PM
Slowpoke

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Yes, but considering that's like what, 30 programs? With everyday things like browsing the web you won't feel a thing.

Yeah exactly haha, I can't see any normal person ever needing more than 2GB of RAM. I only have 512MB at the moment but I'm upgrading to 2GB as soon as I get a bit of spare cash. With a current processor speed of 2.80GHz, I'm proper looking forward to seeing what I can do. :)

Nice Tom. ;D
22-09-2008, 03:34 PM
N!ck

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Originally Posted by Slowpoke

Yeah exactly haha, I can't any normal person ever needing more than 2GB of RAM. I only have 512MB at the moment but I'm upgrading to 2GB as soon as I get a bit of spare cash. With a current processor speed of 2.80GHz, I'm proper looking forward to seeing what I can do. :)

Nice Tom. ;D

It depends on the architecture of the CPU whether 2.8GHz is good. If it's a Celeron then it's not :P.
22-09-2008, 03:48 PM
Slowpoke

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Originally Posted by N!ck

It depends on the architecture of the CPU whether 2.8GHz is good. If it's a Celeron then it's not :P.

Pentium 4 - Not fantastic, but not bad for what I want to be able to do.
22-09-2008, 08:42 PM
HotelUser

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Originally Posted by N!ck

It is 4GB including graphics memory and RAM.

You can do this: http://www.ocmodshop.com/ocmodshop.aspx?a=989
22-09-2008, 08:46 PM
N!ck

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Originally Posted by HotelUser

You can do this: http://www.ocmodshop.com/ocmodshop.aspx?a=989

Yes, i do know about doing that and i have also mentioned it in the past ;). http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost....1&postcount=37
22-09-2008, 08:50 PM
Recursion

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotelUser

Intel > AMD :)

And 2.0Ghz Duo core and 8GB ram is probably going to be fine for you. Unless you use photoshop, WoW and Flight Simulator at the same time :D.

Actually you're almost correct. 32bit Vista will recognize around 3.3Gb of RAM. Vista Basic 64bit allows upto 8GB, and 64bit Ultimate allows upto 128GB of ram.

Wrong, it will recognise up to 4GB inc. video card RAM and any other RAM on other components.
23-09-2008, 08:21 PM
mb-group.net

The processor SERIOUSLY needs 'bumping up' try to get an Intel Core2Duo 3.0GHz and get the ram down to 4GIG and save some money.
24-09-2008, 10:13 AM
HotelUser

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Originally Posted by *****

Wrong, it will recognise up to 4GB inc. video card RAM and any other RAM on other components.

Pay attention. Nick already said that.

So here I say again, "You can do this: http://www.ocmodshop.com/ocmodshop.aspx?a=989"...
24-09-2008, 04:46 PM
N!ck

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Originally Posted by HotelUser

Pay attention. Nick already said that.

So here I say again, "You can do this: http://www.ocmodshop.com/ocmodshop.aspx?a=989"...

Yeah, but lol @ finding drivers for 36-bit.