More rep bars pleeease

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23-08-2009, 07:06 PM
Mint

More rep bars pleeease

I've seen forums that have users with a mega load of rep blocks. We have 5 dark green blocks then 6 lighter green blocks, I've seen rep bars that consist of 20 blocks in sections of 4 colours and it's like omg that user is uber leet but here our rep bars are like dammmm.

http://i31.tinypic.com/n675gg.png

please don't laugh at my drawing, I tried.

Not only would a rep bar like that look better but it would also give us something to aim for. A lot of people have reached the maximum reputation blocks but still have loads of extra rep points, fair enough they increase rep power but it would be a lot better if it increased our rep bars furthermore.

Please don't post saying "who cares about rep" because we wouldn't have rep if nobody cared about it.
23-08-2009, 07:09 PM
Caution

There's nothing wrong with it the way it is.
23-08-2009, 07:10 PM
Dentafrice

Just leave it alone.. Rep is fine the way it is.
23-08-2009, 07:15 PM
Mint

If the world was run by people that always said that then nothing would ever be improved or made better. There was nothing wrong with horses and carriages but we went along and improved, we got cars.
23-08-2009, 07:17 PM
Caution

This is a forum, not transport. Transport is essential, reputation isn't.
23-08-2009, 07:18 PM
Yoshimitsui

Don't fix what aint broken.. more will have no purpose what so ever.
23-08-2009, 07:18 PM
Dentafrice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mint

If the world was run by people that always said that then nothing would ever be improved or made better. There was nothing wrong with horses and carriages but we went along and improved, we got cars.

If it's not broke, don't fix it.

I don't see how your idea can improve it? It's just going to make it look tacky like all the other forums.

Habbox Forum prides itself in not being tacky like all the other forums.

We don't install the whole list of Vbulletin.org mods, and have 60 awards systems and shops and points.

The rep is fine. We don't need pretty little colors, and mile long rep bars.
23-08-2009, 07:19 PM
Jackk

does anyone even give out rep anymore?
23-08-2009, 07:22 PM
dirrty

having too many just looks tacky. it's fine as it is.
23-08-2009, 07:23 PM
Mint

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caution

This is a forum, not transport. Transport is essential, reputation isn't.

I was using that as an example. Basically a lot of things in life have been changed even though there was nothing wrong with the way they use to be. We'd still be living in caves throwing spears at animals if we went along saying "there's nothing wrong with the way it is". So I'll agree that there's nothing wrong with how they are at the moment but why be boring and say that when we could go and improve on them, make the forum look that bit more fresher and make an overall improvement?
23-08-2009, 07:26 PM
Dentafrice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mint

I was using that as an example. Basically a lot of things in life have been changed even though there was nothing wrong with the way they use to be. We'd still be living in caves throwing spears at animals if we went along saying "there's nothing wrong with the way it is". So I'll agree that there's nothing wrong with how they are at the moment but why be boring and say that when we could go and improve on them, make the forum look that bit more fresher and make an overall improvement?

But it's just your opinion that they need improved.. and the way you want to improve them.. is tacky... which is not what this forum is about.
23-08-2009, 07:27 PM
Leighanne.

they don't look very professional lol.
23-08-2009, 07:42 PM
Jackk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mint

I was using that as an example. Basically a lot of things in life have been changed even though there was nothing wrong with the way they use to be. We'd still be living in caves throwing spears at animals if we went along saying "there's nothing wrong with the way it is". So I'll agree that there's nothing wrong with how they are at the moment but why be boring and say that when we could go and improve on them, make the forum look that bit more fresher and make an overall improvement?

there was something wrong with living in caves, theres nothing wrong with the current rep style.
23-08-2009, 08:22 PM
Mint

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackk

there was something wrong with living in caves, theres nothing wrong with the current rep style.

There was nothing wrong with living in caves, humans just went along and improved things. There isn't anything wrong with the rep bars but we can go along and improve them. A more advanced rep bar might not be to your taste and this thread is to input your thoughts about my idea. It's clear that you don't like the idea and I thank you for sharing your thoughts about it, let's just not turn this thread into an argument. The drawing I posted probably doesn't do my idea any favours as it does look kind of tacky but try to imagine it in a neater and more compact form.
23-08-2009, 08:24 PM
Dentafrice

A neater and more compact form?

Like it is now..
24-08-2009, 12:23 AM
nvrspk4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mint

There was nothing wrong with living in caves, humans just went along and improved things. There isn't anything wrong with the rep bars but we can go along and improve them. A more advanced rep bar might not be to your taste and this thread is to input your thoughts about my idea. It's clear that you don't like the idea and I thank you for sharing your thoughts about it, let's just not turn this thread into an argument. The drawing I posted probably doesn't do my idea any favours as it does look kind of tacky but try to imagine it in a neater and more compact form.

I'm sorry but the argument that there was nothing wrong with living in caves is an absolutely illogical argument :P You're making an analogy that simply doesn't make sense :P If you really want to turn this thread about caves then I will post all the reasons but I don't think its necessary.

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Originally Posted by Mint

I've seen forums that have users with a mega load of rep blocks. We have 5 dark green blocks then 6 lighter green blocks, I've seen rep bars that consist of 20 blocks in sections of 4 colours and it's like omg that user is uber leet but here our rep bars are like dammmm.

http://i31.tinypic.com/n675gg.png

please don't laugh at my drawing, I tried.

Not only would a rep bar like that look better but it would also give us something to aim for. A lot of people have reached the maximum reputation blocks but still have loads of extra rep points, fair enough they increase rep power but it would be a lot better if it increased our rep bars furthermore.

Please don't post saying "who cares about rep" because we wouldn't have rep if nobody cared about it.

In my opinion, the forums with loads and loads of rep bars do indeed look tacky. Also, they operate differently from HabboxForum. For example CHF where users have rep powers of 50 and can regularly win 1000 points, the system is borderline pointless. We aren't aiming to become like them, which is why we made the reputation changes so long ago.

PS: The bloody box tool and copy and paste on paint would have saved you so much heartache.
24-08-2009, 12:27 AM
jackass

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshimitsui

Don't fix what aint broken.. more will have no purpose what so ever.

I'm getting very sick of that phrase. :rolleyes:

And yeah, i'm all for this, as i've been on full rep blocks for a long time, and I would like more blocks to aim for, like in different colours etc.
24-08-2009, 06:32 AM
Black_Apalachi

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Originally Posted by Mint

[...] Not only would a rep bar like that look better [...]

Are you serious?!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mint

[...] it would also give us something to aim for. [...]

We already have something to aim for - get more posts and rep than Immenseman while he's inactive init.

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Originally Posted by Mint

If the world was run by people that always said that then nothing would ever be improved or made better. There was nothing wrong with horses and carriages but we went along and improved, we got cars.

Again, are you serious? :S You may aswell say, "there is nothing wrong with crawling, but we learn to walk and run when we grow up".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mint

I was using that as an example. Basically a lot of things in life have been changed even though there was nothing wrong with the way they use to be. We'd still be living in caves throwing spears at animals if we went along saying "there's nothing wrong with the way it is". So I'll agree that there's nothing wrong with how they are at the moment but why be boring and say that when we could go and improve on them, make the forum look that bit more fresher and make an overall improvement?

Nobody decided one day to sack off caves and build a house. It's called evolution. And plenty of people do live in caves and throw spears at animals actually. People even live in igloos for crying out loud! :P

I really don't think this would be an example of a significant aspect of life, whether it needs changing or not.

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Originally Posted by nvrspk4

[...] If you really want to turn this thread about caves then I will post all the reasons but I don't think its necessary. [...]

Couldn't help it :eusa_whis.

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Originally Posted by nvrspk4

[...] PS: The bloody box tool and copy and paste on paint would have saved you so much heartache.

Lol +rep :P.

If you MUST change it, I'd just make the dark ones go bright green one by one once you reach what the current maximum is.
24-08-2009, 07:22 PM
Plank

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biohazard

I'm getting very sick of that phrase. :rolleyes:

And yeah, i'm all for this, as i've been on full rep blocks for a long time, and I would like more blocks to aim for, like in different colours etc.

Me too. A lot of suggestions recently are unnecessarily getting the "don't fix what ain't broken" phrase (or something along those lines) thrown at them.

I wouldn't mind an extra colour, maybe a different shade of green, but I wouldn't like any different colours other than green.
24-08-2009, 07:26 PM
Immenseman

the system is quite apt as it is.

anything else would look ugly.
24-08-2009, 07:26 PM
GommeInc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mint

I was using that as an example. Basically a lot of things in life have been changed even though there was nothing wrong with the way they use to be. We'd still be living in caves throwing spears at animals if we went along saying "there's nothing wrong with the way it is". So I'll agree that there's nothing wrong with how they are at the moment but why be boring and say that when we could go and improve on them, make the forum look that bit more fresher and make an overall improvement?

Rep is rep though? The example I would use would sum this up, but it maybe unacceptable, but oh well :P If you removed the smell of faeces, the faeces is still faeces. Rep is just rep, colour or not colour. Transport evolved from horses to motor engines, while rep can't evolve, it can only change colour.
24-08-2009, 07:30 PM
Chippiewill

I think an even lighter green should be added with only three extra block.s With each block taking 1500 rep...
24-08-2009, 11:34 PM
Black_Apalachi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plank

Me too. A lot of suggestions recently are unnecessarily getting the "don't fix what ain't broken" phrase (or something along those lines) thrown at them. [...]

It's because they themselves are unnecessary.
24-08-2009, 11:37 PM
Meanies

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00chips

I think an even lighter green should be added with only three extra block.s With each block taking 1500 rep...

i'm with this guy, but maybe not 1500 rep each
25-08-2009, 10:11 AM
nvrspk4

My opinion would be the only fix I would even consider would be a proposal to make each block worth more and thus have less people who are hitting the limit. I think with the new rep system people won't shoot up so fast, it is the remnants of the old, fairly crazy system that have all these people with full rep, so it will only take one fix and will be pretty much sorted.

However, I'm not sure whether the rep system deserves that much lip service to be given as a constant upward trend and should just instead be dismissed as ok its not that important you've hit the top now calm down.

I'd be interested on seeing what forum members thought about that.
25-08-2009, 10:32 AM
Dentafrice

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvrspk4

My opinion would be the only fix I would even consider would be a proposal to make each block worth more and thus have less people who are hitting the limit. I think with the new rep system people won't shoot up so fast, it is the remnants of the old, fairly crazy system that have all these people with full rep, so it will only take one fix and will be pretty much sorted.

However, I'm not sure whether the rep system deserves that much lip service to be given as a constant upward trend and should just instead be dismissed as ok its not that important you've hit the top now calm down.

I'd be interested on seeing what forum members thought about that.

My opinion is I agree :P
25-08-2009, 01:49 PM
Mint

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvrspk4

My opinion would be the only fix I would even consider would be a proposal to make each block worth more and thus have less people who are hitting the limit. I think with the new rep system people won't shoot up so fast, it is the remnants of the old, fairly crazy system that have all these people with full rep, so it will only take one fix and will be pretty much sorted.

However, I'm not sure whether the rep system deserves that much lip service to be given as a constant upward trend and should just instead be dismissed as ok its not that important you've hit the top now calm down.

I'd be interested on seeing what forum members thought about that.

I would only agree on that if people started to give rep again. People that haven't already reached the "legendary status" would find it extremely difficult to reach the full rep bar once you have updated it, this is because hardly anyone gives rep anymore. To be honest, the only way you can get rep from the majority of people is to rep them and get returned rep. Only a small percentage of the forum seems to +rep for good posts now.
25-08-2009, 02:35 PM
Immenseman

I use the reputation system daily for both good and bad posts.
25-08-2009, 05:19 PM
Catzsy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mint

I would only agree on that if people started to give rep again. People that haven't already reached the "legendary status" would find it extremely difficult to reach the full rep bar once you have updated it, this is because hardly anyone gives rep anymore. To be honest, the only way you can get rep from the majority of people is to rep them and get returned rep. Only a small percentage of the forum seems to +rep for good posts now.

Out of interest how do you know this :S I still give +rep for good posts but I have no idea and whether or not it is a small percentage - how could we measure that accurately?
27-08-2009, 04:12 AM
Black_Apalachi

Yeah I also give +rep. I'm not overly generous about it but I give it when necessary (until limited by "need to spread"). I rarely give -rep though. I could probably give a lot more really.
27-08-2009, 07:13 AM
Kardan

Why do we have 5 dark and 6 light green blocks? Why not 6/6? I'm not really bothered about the changing of the blocks really, I don't really look at them. Rep Power is usually more representitive of reputation since the blocks are quite close together.

The 1500 rep that someone suggested is way too much though, I think I worked out that the user with the most rep has only around 12,000. Which is only 8 blocks.

That'd put me at 2 blocks (assuming you'd get 1 for 0 rep like we do now...) and I've been here nearly 5 years.
27-08-2009, 09:04 AM
nvrspk4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kardan

Why do we have 5 dark and 6 light green blocks? Why not 6/6? I'm not really bothered about the changing of the blocks really, I don't really look at them. Rep Power is usually more representitive of reputation since the blocks are quite close together.

The 1500 rep that someone suggested is way too much though, I think I worked out that the user with the most rep has only around 12,000. Which is only 8 blocks.

That'd put me at 2 blocks (assuming you'd get 1 for 0 rep like we do now...) and I've been here nearly 5 years.

Good question :P

As far as the 1500 rep, I think the point was to add a new block so that if you exceed 1700 (believe thats top margin here) you would have more blocks which were now earned at 1500 rep each which would allow you to keep going.

Which I think is a little silly but hey.
27-08-2009, 07:41 PM
Chippiewill

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvrspk4

Good question :P

As far as the 1500 rep, I think the point was to add a new block so that if you exceed 1700 (believe thats top margin here) you would have more blocks which were now earned at 1500 rep each which would allow you to keep going.

Which I think is a little silly but hey.

It creates more of a long term goal and makes it difficult for people with loads of rep power to rep each other to keep getting more blocks. It will allow people to close the gap a bit as well so that the older ones have their blocks closer to the newer people because it is more difficult to get them. If something similar was done to rep power then that would be great. (People who had been around long before the change got their rep up really high and still had loads of rep power after). Oh and management should have their rep halfed because they get loads from people who think they will be liked from it.
28-08-2009, 10:06 AM
nvrspk4

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00chips

It creates more of a long term goal and makes it difficult for people with loads of rep power to rep each other to keep getting more blocks. It will allow people to close the gap a bit as well so that the older ones have their blocks closer to the newer people because it is more difficult to get them. If something similar was done to rep power then that would be great. (People who had been around long before the change got their rep up really high and still had loads of rep power after). Oh and management should have their rep halfed because they get loads from people who think they will be liked from it.

This is the type of attitude regarding reputation we're trying to avoid. People treating it as a competition and trying to even out the playing field so they can get ahead etc. etc.

For that reason I think it may be better to just let the rep system lie.