Digital Economy Bill likely to become law

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08-04-2010, 05:05 PM
Pyroka

Digital Economy Bill likely to become law

Yeah it was passed in Lords either today or yesterday night, and it's probably going to get a Royal ascent so that they can shift it through asap. For anyone who doesnt know what the Digital Economy Bill is, it's basically a bill which protects huge companies & threatens users who download illegally, with permenant disconnection.

Not only does it threaten those users though, but the innocent ones who have insecure wifi signals will get punished if others are downloading on their wifi network (possibly the end of free wifi in cafés? I think so). It's pretty much the worst day in the history for the Internet and freedom of speech. The bill even suggests that it be allowed for the internet to be filtered by the government, though it was amended slightly so there has to be a thorough debate about why it should be filtered... Leaves alot of room for the imagination of stupid parliament members.

So yeah, bad news... if anyone knows a bit more than I do, go ahead and input, but I'm sure what I've said is all true. :)
08-04-2010, 05:27 PM
dbgtz

Kinda stupid, it is basically free advertisement for the music person as if they like their songs they will go and see their concert and buy other merchandise (possibly).
08-04-2010, 06:01 PM
xxMATTGxx

Some replies can be found here regarding this bill.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=637571

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Anyway, the bill is stupid. It is not set out correctly and is just going to ruin our usage of internet. WELL DONE GOVERNMENT!
08-04-2010, 06:02 PM
Pyroka

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Originally Posted by MattGarner

Some replies can be found here regarding this bill.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=637571

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Anyway, the bill is stupid. It is not set out correctly and is just going to ruin our usage of internet. WELL DONE GOVERNMENT!

The guy who put it forward in parliament thought IP address stands for Intellectual Property address -.-
08-04-2010, 06:22 PM
xxMATTGxx

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Originally Posted by Pyroka

The guy who put it forward in parliament thought IP address stands for Intellectual Property address -.-

I watched some live thing before and in some part of the bill it mentions "Service Providers" and this person did his research on this and spoke tons about how "Service Providers" means many things, when the word should of been "Internet Service Providers". They have rushed this too fast and it needed to be debated proper!
08-04-2010, 06:22 PM
iAdam

I download massive game mod files, probably means i'll get flagged up for doing something perfectly legal. Smooth move noobs.
08-04-2010, 06:25 PM
Pyroka

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattGarner

I watched some live thing before and in some part of the bill it mentions "Service Providers" and this person did his research on this and spoke tons about how "Service Providers" means many things, when the word should of been "Internet Service Providers". They have rushed this too fast and it needed to be debated proper!

So true. None of them know anything about the internet or technology. The only ones who do know are probably those who voted no. I mean fgs like 400 MPs didnt turn up to the vote? there was a mashed up look at it, lots of twitter users disapprove of it... It should be getting the media attention it deserves.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iAdam

I download massive game mod files, probably means i'll get flagged up for doing something perfectly legal. Smooth move noobs.

Again, you probably will get caught up. -.-
08-04-2010, 06:43 PM
xxMATTGxx

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Originally Posted by Pyroka

So true. None of them know anything about the internet or technology. The only ones who do know are probably those who voted no. I mean fgs like 400 MPs didnt turn up to the vote? there was a mashed up look at it, lots of twitter users disapprove of it... It should be getting the media attention it deserves.

Again, you probably will get caught up. -.-

This fact makes me laugh:

In 24 hours, the hashtag #debill appeared 14,400 times on Twitter, as compared to 1,470 tweets using the election hashtag #ge2010.
08-04-2010, 06:50 PM
-:Undertaker:-

The country is going down the pan, prisons are full to the brim and including the courts as well yet the government is determined to go after people who are causing no harm - typical of a left wing Labour government, no room in prison for thieves or thugs but plenty for old ladies who refuse to pay their council tax. I'm not suprised as usual.
08-04-2010, 08:11 PM
Sameer!

Really? I think there is a too high risk on inncoent people and people will find ways behind it
08-04-2010, 08:28 PM
Niall!

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Originally Posted by Sameer!

Really? I think there is a too high risk on inncoent people and people will find ways behind it

Indeed. A VPN is all it takes.
08-04-2010, 08:49 PM
Hitman

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Originally Posted by Niall!

Indeed. A VPN is all it takes.

Quite right. If anybody wants the link to one of the most secure VPN's contact me. They don't store logs and you can pay anonymously... it's very very secure. It's also encrypted well. It's like $17 per month.
08-04-2010, 09:36 PM
jrh2002

I will just hijack the neighbours internet for when I download and once I get them cut off I will move to the next one haha
08-04-2010, 09:45 PM
Adamm

We're turning into China.
08-04-2010, 09:46 PM
Pyroka

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Originally Posted by Adamm

We're turning into China.

If you've ever been to Manchester, you'll have discovered we already have.
08-04-2010, 09:47 PM
Adamm

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Originally Posted by Pyroka

If you've ever been to Manchester, you'll have discovered we already have.

I've been to London.
08-04-2010, 09:48 PM
Pyroka

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Originally Posted by Adamm

I've been to London.

If you typed London into Google it should come up "Did you mean: Beijing?"
08-04-2010, 10:04 PM
Niall!

http://i42.tinypic.com/3ewrn.jpg

This is an accurate representation of our Prime Minister.
08-04-2010, 10:13 PM
jrh2002

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niall!

http://i42.tinypic.com/3ewrn.jpg

This is an accurate representation of our Prime Minister.

+Rep lol

There seems to be a lot of chinese here taking advantage of our universities etc but as long as they are paying their fees then good luck to them.
10-04-2010, 10:56 PM
alexxxxx

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Originally Posted by jrh2002

+Rep lol

There seems to be a lot of chinese here taking advantage of our universities etc but as long as they are paying their fees then good luck to them.

have you seen the fees they pay - it's a LOT LOT LOT more than UK/EU students pay. Without them we'd have to pay more. you could say we take advantage of them aha.
11-04-2010, 11:10 PM
jrh2002

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Originally Posted by alexxxxx

have you seen the fees they pay - it's a LOT LOT LOT more than UK/EU students pay. Without them we'd have to pay more. you could say we take advantage of them aha.

Unless you lived in Scotland then it would all be free :o There seems to be a lot of unfairness in the UK education system. I will take your word for it on the higher fees for the foreigners but is that not discriminating? Also if the chinese can afford these much higher fees how come the UK feels the need to give China aid. The whole world has gone mad.
12-04-2010, 12:39 PM
GommeInc

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Originally Posted by jrh2002

Unless you lived in Scotland then it would all be free :o There seems to be a lot of unfairness in the UK education system. I will take your word for it on the higher fees for the foreigners but is that not discriminating? Also if the chinese can afford these much higher fees how come the UK feels the need to give China aid. The whole world has gone mad.

It's true :) Quite alot of foreigners have to pay more than UK students, even ones in the Common Wealth e.g. people from the Cayman Islands. It's not discrimating as such, they have to pay their way to get here afterall, and have to go through alot of legal procedures which can be very costly.
12-04-2010, 04:34 PM
alexxxxx

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrh2002

Unless you lived in Scotland then it would all be free :o There seems to be a lot of unfairness in the UK education system. I will take your word for it on the higher fees for the foreigners but is that not discriminating? Also if the chinese can afford these much higher fees how come the UK feels the need to give China aid. The whole world has gone mad.

no it's not because all local authorities in the UK & EU have an agreement to pay for a lot of the university costs - you pay the 'top-up' fee (the £3k fee). Obviously the non-eu students are not part of this agreement and have to pay inflated full fees.

there are chinese and hong kong students at my 6th form college who spend about 8k on tuition fees a year at a state 6th form college and there's this indian guy who's lived in the UK for 2years or so and is considered a foreign student in the UK and in India - there's not as much as a giveaway as you might think.
12-04-2010, 04:42 PM
jrh2002

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexxxxx

no it's not because all local authorities in the UK & EU have an agreement to pay for a lot of the university costs - you pay the 'top-up' fee (the £3k fee). Obviously the non-eu students are not part of this agreement and have to pay inflated full fees.

there are chinese and hong kong students at my 6th form college who spend about 8k on tuition fees a year at a state 6th form college and there's this indian guy who's lived in the UK for 2years or so and is considered a foreign student in the UK and in India - there's not as much as a giveaway as you might think.

I never said it was a give away :o I said they were taking advantage of our education and by that I meant our great universities and colleges :) I have no issue at all with people who come here and pay their way/fees or people who come here to work hard and pay in to the system.