How come you're not allowed to link to another forum thread that has photos of themselves that THEY posted?
They're posted publicly, not privately?
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How come you're not allowed to link to another forum thread that has photos of themselves that THEY posted?
They're posted publicly, not privately?
I'm guessing they might not want them spread around beyond that forum, but that's just a guess :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Moh
I got a warning for this, before it was even in the rules. Thought i'd throw that in ;)
This is correct, if someone posts a picture on a forum that is not this one, they may not want it posting on this one, when posting pictures of users permission must always be requested.Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
It has always been against the rules and users have been contacted regarding it many months before your occurance.Quote:
Originally Posted by flatface
But the pictures aren't posted on here directly, was a link to a thread that contains photos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oli
If you're not allowed to do that, then surely you can't post anything because there's surely going to be a photo of somebody.
You are giving people on here access to those photographs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moh
Was a thread that linked to another thread on another forumQuote:
Originally Posted by Oli
Which you knew contained photographs of people whom may not want their photographs on HabboxForum, there's a simple answer really: ask permission.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moh
I don't understand why Habbox have to do anything. It's not your responsibility, it's the people who uploaded their photo. If they don't want people to see them, then don't upload them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oli
I'd understand if it was off somebodys facebook as they have privacy settings etc.. but on another forum not so much.
It's the same principle really, different people use HxF than CHF and whilst they may trust the CHF community with their images they may not trust the HxF community, on top of this some users do not like their pictures being discussed on a forum which they don't use as much, therefore cannot say anything or see what is being said about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moh
As I said, it's pretty simple if you ask permission, that way there's no problem.
The aim is to really prevent people from doing it from any website. You might find a picture on a random website that they may have (or may not have) uploaded themselves, but they might not want people to view it on here. Granted it is less likely they'd be against it being posted on here, but at the end of the day it is not up to YOU to post pictures of other members - if they want to themselves, then fine. It makes no difference to us where you found the image, if you post it without their permission you are breaking the rules because if they wanted it on this forum, they would have posted it themselves.
Well thats very stupid then isn't it :S. You shouldn't be punishing members for doing something that isn't actually breaking the rules, end of really lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oli
During my time as a forum (super) moderator I don't think I dealt with this situation once.
It is and always has been breaking the rules, it comes under posting images of other forum members, you asked for it to be clearer in highlighting that so we added a few words - the rule hasn't changed at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by flatface
I agree with management on this one (:O), you could just link their imagine then instead of embedding it, it would be insanely easy to get around. Pretty simple at the moment. And if u wanna show a picture of someone then u can just get the link, not hard
I don't think you quite understand somehow. Posting a link to another publicly viewable thread on another forum that happens to contain a picture of another member is not the same as posting a direct image of another member on the forum - I asked for it to be added to the rules, not to be made clearer. How can you make something clearer when it doesn't actually exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oli
But what if they aren't of members of this forum? =SQuote:
Originally Posted by Oli
The first time I did embed them, which I'm fine with. But I got a warning for linking to a thread on another forum. I can't remember if you have to be registered to view CHF's threads either.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaughtyNemo
Well, it's something that we clearly disagree on Josh because when we wrote the rules that was one of the circumstances considered when writing the posting images of other forum members rule :) Posting a link to a page which contains an image of another forum member has always been against the forum rules, simple really.Quote:
Originally Posted by flatface
@ Moh - if they are still Habbos that's even more reason not to post images of them on this forum.
Totally agree you have never been able to post personal information/private content about another member without prior permission. This has been in force since pictures were allowed. Before that no pictures not even your own were allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oli
If it was a circumstance considered then why wasn't it added to the list under the rule like it is now? Yes it maybe simple really, to people who can read minds. I checked the rules before posting the link. What I was punished for wasn't covered by the rules so I posted it, unfortunately I must be one of those darn members who were not blessed to be able to read minds. :'(Quote:
Originally Posted by Oli
Josh, it's posting an image of another member and you posted the link with the intention of sharing the image, this has been against the rules for a very long time as most members know.
Well xxMATTGxx didn't seem to know before he got the chance to speak to you about my punishment (sorry to pick you out Matt).Quote:
Originally Posted by Oli
I have included a few replies from a selection of members that didn't seem to be 100% clear on the previous rule, I say a few because you were fast enough to close both threads.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...11#post6612211
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...20#post6612220
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...41#post6612241
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...55#post6612655
Yes Josh, and following those replies the rule was clarified, and MattGarner did know about the rule because he highlighted it to me without me even saying anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by flatface
And to be honest, although Saurav disagreed with the rule his post states he was aware of it, graham stated the rules are unclear too - as I've said, the rule has been clarified.
Well I have evidence to suggest otherwise. Your definition of clarified must be totally different to mine, and quite a few others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oli
Well myself and the people I have spoken to regarding this (General Management and Super Moderation) happen to agree this has been against the rules for some time, and the definition of clarified is to clear up and avoid any misunderstanding, to highlight something more clearly - which is what we have done. It was always against the rules, following your request we clarified the rule to make it more clear that posting links to locations where there are pictures of other forum members is forbidden, but it always has been.Quote:
Originally Posted by flatface
Thanks for that patronising response, anyway obviously we disagree on this. I have made it clear what I think and you have made it clear what you think. As far as i'm concerned this situation has been dealt with - not in the most professional manor, may I add. I think we should leave it at that, no further reply is needed on your behalf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oli
Okay then, why can't we link to posts THAT USER made on THIS FORUM containing pictures of themselves ;l?Quote:
Originally Posted by Oli
At the end of the day, almost 90% of the time I have seen users post links, be it from a different forum or their social networking site, the purpose in doing this is to ridicule or bully the user. I don't see any other pressing reason for posting a picture of someone else? Other than to target the person and discuss them, which is something they probably do not want and in the event they did, they would post it themselves or grant you permission to post it.
Why bother posting it on THIS forum then? It's stupid.
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Originally Posted by Nixt
They post it on the forum because they choose to do so. They choose to do so at a given time, in a given thread, having a relatively good idea on who uses and browses the forum and who, therefore, may reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blinger
Any individual later posting the image, wherever they have procured their image, will generally do so without permission and with malicious intent. When an individual submits an image to any website, I doubt they expect that the image they posted will later be brought up, posted on a forum and discussed amongst members who they have not expressly given permission to do so.
Another member wasn't clear who this user was, so I shown her the link to the image. We hardly bullied him... He was in the same thread and judging from his replies you can tell that we all were joking around with each other, including the member whos picture it was.
Considering on recent threads/posts made by that user, you have to wonder whether it was him who posted in the first place!Quote:
Originally Posted by flatface
I am not referring specifically to your situation, just why it is against the rules in the first place.
Confused :S what do you meanQuote:
Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx
He posted a thread on the forum last night mentioning he got hacked and whatever else. Meaning you saying "even the user was going along" etc. You then wonder "was it actually him" though.Quote:
Originally Posted by flatface
Well that isn't my problem really :P His account made the posts therefore I assumed it was himQuote:
Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx
The issue is only whether or not you had permission to post the image. If he pm'd Oli saying you had permission then most likely it would be reversed. Josh the rule has always been the same since we were allowed to post pictures.Quote:
Originally Posted by flatface
I understand that posting a image directly onto the forum is against the rules if done so without permission. What I didn't understand is the posting a link to another publicly viewable thread on another forum was classed as posting a picture of another member - this wasn't in the rules. I then suggested it should be added and it has been. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Catzsy
It was always in the rules, Josh - you asked for it to be made clearer that it was against the rules. Nothing has been added or taken away.Quote:
Originally Posted by flatface
I actually think it was but last time they trimmed them down a lot of this detail went which was a bit unfortunate.Quote:
Originally Posted by flatface
This is correct Rosie, we thought that it would be obvious that linking to a page which contains an image would be the same rule which forbids people from posting images without permission, perhaps not - it has been clarified now anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catzsy