My 02 Rant

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05-10-2010, 05:52 PM
Jack!

My 02 Rant

Well, im actually really ****** off right now.

Today my new 02 phone arrived, i opened it, and to my delight, the screen was crack ( the LCD Bit ive been told) I was really annoyed, and well, I took it to my 02 store, and they said it is my fault. nothing they can do about it. so im sitting here with an unusable phone. Any ideas what i should do? and because my mum is paying for it, now she is shouting at me. constantly also blaming me. :@

02 are ****

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05-10-2010, 05:57 PM
kk.

take it back to the o2 shop and tell them that its there fault, that it arrived like that. Its their problem not yours.

and will people pleasssse stop saying 02. its O2, like oxygen..
05-10-2010, 06:01 PM
Jack!

Quote:

Originally Posted by kk.

take it back to the o2 shop and tell them that its there fault, that it arrived like that. Its their problem not yours.

and will people pleasssse stop saying 02. its O2, like oxygen..

Tried that. he basically told me to **** off.

And sorry. 02
05-10-2010, 06:03 PM
kk.

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Originally Posted by Techie!

Tried that. he basically told me to **** off.

And sorry. 02

ring customer service then. where did you order the phone from?
05-10-2010, 06:05 PM
Jack!

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Originally Posted by kk.

ring customer service then. where did you order the phone from?

Customer service told me to take it to my local store, which I did.

and from the 02 website.
05-10-2010, 06:08 PM
kk.

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Originally Posted by Techie!

Customer service told me to take it to my local store, which I did.

and from the 02 website.

well ring them back and tell them that they were being ***** lol. Can you take it to another o2 store. or go to another person in the shop
05-10-2010, 06:09 PM
Jack!

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Originally Posted by kk.

well ring them back and tell them that they were being ***** lol. Can you take it to another o2 store. or go to another person in the shop

No other 02 stores close enough.

And i went in twice, each time they went and got the store manager :l
05-10-2010, 06:11 PM
Chippiewill

Got to the store and ask for their manager, then tell them that if they don't replace it that you'll take them to small claims court, I doubt they'll want that to happen so they'll probably give in.
05-10-2010, 06:11 PM
kk.

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Originally Posted by Techie!

No other 02 stores close enough.

And i went in twice, each time they went and got the store manager :l

lol only thing you can do is ring o2 up and tell them to sort it for you. If they say they cant do anything, ask to speak to a supervisor. If they say they cant help, ask to speak to their supervisor. Keep escalating up until you get your answer. theyre in the wrong so dont give up
05-10-2010, 06:20 PM
Jack!

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

Got to the store and ask for their manager, then tell them that if they don't replace it that you'll take them to small claims court, I doubt they'll want that to happen so they'll probably give in.

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Originally Posted by kk.

lol only thing you can do is ring o2 up and tell them to sort it for you. If they say they cant do anything, ask to speak to a supervisor. If they say they cant help, ask to speak to their supervisor. Keep escalating up until you get your answer. theyre in the wrong so dont give up

Well, I was thinking of that, but he basically said nothing I can do, your fault, can I interest you in a new phone :l

And I was considering Nokia repair, but under there terms it says user damage is not covered. and that's what 02 are saying it is, so i am not sure what to do, the Nokia repair is free, but it it breaks there terms (Which user damaged does) they charge you for the free pick-up and repair, so i don't know what to do

Thanks for your help so far. +rep
05-10-2010, 06:51 PM
LMS16

Warranty :) Everything has 1 years warranty, although a cracked screen ud have to pay for and hardly anyone will believe it came like that.

Is it a contract phone?

Lew.
05-10-2010, 07:19 PM
Recursion

You have 14 days to return the phone (and cancel the contract if you want) from the time you received the phone.
05-10-2010, 07:22 PM
kk.

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Originally Posted by Techie!

Well, I was thinking of that, but he basically said nothing I can do, your fault, can I interest you in a new phone :l

And I was considering Nokia repair, but under there terms it says user damage is not covered. and that's what 02 are saying it is, so i am not sure what to do, the Nokia repair is free, but it it breaks there terms (Which user damaged does) they charge you for the free pick-up and repair, so i don't know what to do

Thanks for your help so far. +rep

tell them that all you want is the same phone and to keep the contract. why would you purposely break a phone that you want to keep thats only just arrived
05-10-2010, 07:28 PM
Johno

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Originally Posted by kk.

lol only thing you can do is ring o2 up and tell them to sort it for you. If they say they cant do anything, ask to speak to a supervisor. If they say they cant help, ask to speak to their supervisor. Keep escalating up until you get your answer. theyre in the wrong so dont give up

This is really all you can do, phone everyone. Get really narky with them, if it's not your fault then don't give up. Just say the usual things - infact, tell them to cancel the contract, take back the phone (cancel the direct debit if it is paid by that), refuse to pay - and tell them you are going with someone else, that should get their attention a little.

Under the Sale of Goods Act you have the statutory right to return a faulty product and "the Sale of Goods Act now states that if a product develops a fault within the first 6 months, the assumption will be that the defect was present at the time of purchase and you should get an automatic repair or replacement." - The phone is clearly not fit for purpose and you should be demanding either a new phone/refund.
05-10-2010, 07:49 PM
Recursion

There's also the distance selling act if you bought it over the internet.
05-10-2010, 07:53 PM
Jack!

Lmao, i have now given up with them, considering fixing it myself, from guides it don't seem hard, cant be harder than fixing/building a computer right?

And for the screen and tools I can get for about £20, so I might just do that.
05-10-2010, 08:00 PM
kk.

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Originally Posted by Techie!

Lmao, i have now given up with them, considering fixing it myself, from guides it don't seem hard, cant be harder than fixing/building a computer right?

And for the screen and tools I can get for about £20, so I might just do that.

dont give in! thats how they make money :l
05-10-2010, 08:05 PM
Jack!

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Originally Posted by kk.

dont give in! thats how they make money :l

I guess. so far the only thing I keep getting is your fault/not our problem though, I find it ironic, a nice lady said on live help we should exchange it, go to the store, the manager gets all uptight, 'not her decision', 'its my store' ect :|
05-10-2010, 08:06 PM
Rapidshare

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Originally Posted by Recursion

You have 14 days to return the phone (and cancel the contract if you want) from the time you received the phone.

This is the best option!
05-10-2010, 08:09 PM
Jack!

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Originally Posted by Rapidshare

This is the best option!

I agree, but it is an upgrade, and a) I like my tariff :P b) returning didn't work, I'm not really sure what the problem is with the damn manager.
05-10-2010, 08:11 PM
GommeInc

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Originally Posted by Techie!

I guess. so far the only thing I keep getting is your fault/not our problem though, I find it ironic, a nice lady said on live help we should exchange it, go to the store, the manager gets all uptight, 'not her decision', 'its my store' ect :|

Then you tell him you're making a formal complaint and will be contacting O2 about his incredibly rude behaviour, maybe even tell this help desk lady that he's not helping and sucks at his job. The phone was broken in transit and that wasn't your fault. You can return the item. Print off the Acts listed by Johno and the big ape might reconsider his actions, and make sure you have your receipt to prove this.
05-10-2010, 08:12 PM
kk.

as i said, go to another store then. I know it might be a bit far away but its worth it. Either that or again, as i said, ring and keep asking for supervisors
05-10-2010, 08:42 PM
Chippiewill

Basically what the guys above have been saying, he WILL give in if you bring him sale of goods act and threaten to take him to small claims court e.t.c. No point shelling out £20 on something that could break your phone.
07-10-2010, 04:43 PM
Rapidshare

The problem is that your mum is paying for it, She is the person who signed the contract and agreed to pay the bill.

She has to be the one to take it back, they cant return the money to you.

Bring yourself and your mum to the 02 Shop, sorted.
07-10-2010, 04:49 PM
Recursion

Small claims court if they continue to refuse.
10-10-2010, 04:35 PM
Dean

Don't bother trying to repair it yourself, tampering with it WILL void the warranty and ruin your chances of getting anything.

Just do what other people are saying, threaten to take them to court.
12-10-2010, 10:43 PM
Casanova

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Originally Posted by Johno

This is really all you can do, phone everyone. Get really narky with them, if it's not your fault then don't give up. Just say the usual things - infact, tell them to cancel the contract, take back the phone (cancel the direct debit if it is paid by that), refuse to pay - and tell them you are going with someone else, that should get their attention a little.

Under the Sale of Goods Act you have the statutory right to return a faulty product and "the Sale of Goods Act now states that if a product develops a fault within the first 6 months, the assumption will be that the defect was present at the time of purchase and you should get an automatic repair or replacement." - The phone is clearly not fit for purpose and you should be demanding either a new phone/refund.

Actually, under the sales of goods act a retailer has to either repair the phone or supply a reasonable substitute. They don't have to "refund".
In my work, if it's within 28 days we'll see about getting the handset repaired there and then and if not an exchange. Afterwards we send it away for repair. We do NOT have to refund or exchange - especially with a broken screen. Sorry but we get it all the time...

"My daughters phone is broken. she didn't do it". After speaking with his daughter she admitted she dropped it. It happens all the time, the screen is broken and people deny it!

Unfortunately I think this O2 manager feels the same - Also when someone orders something over the 'net store's take nothing to do with it because it's a different side of the retailer; not through themselves. I think you need to take it up with whomever delivered the device, not O2.

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Originally Posted by Techie!

Lmao, i have now given up with them, considering fixing it myself, from guides it don't seem hard, cant be harder than fixing/building a computer right?

And for the screen and tools I can get for about £20, so I might just do that.

You'll breach your warranty...

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Originally Posted by Dean

Don't bother trying to repair it yourself, tampering with it WILL void the warranty and ruin your chances of getting anything.

Just do what other people are saying, threaten to take them to court.

Threatening them with court won't make them want to help. The best thing to do is call the ONLINE customer services, they'll be more helpful. If they still deny liability contact whoever delivered the device.

This sounds cruel but... this is why you shouldn't order online? I'm under no doubt you didn't do it but it's hard to prove to others.