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Maxi, Johnson, Meireles, Kuyt, Kelly. Enough said.
Kuyt? Mereiles? Kelly? JOHNSON?
Well done, you named two centre midfielders, one STRIKER and one defender.
Liverpool have no width whatsoever.
What's the point in buying a target man when you have no wing play?
Dumb.
Actually there wing players so maybe get your facts right first?
Sorry I forgot to add Joe Cole.
Martin Kelly is a full back/centre back and Glen Johnson is an attacking full back who on the occasion plays right midfield. Dirk Kuyt started as a striker but has been used as a winger both in the Netherlands team and at Liverpool, Raul Meireles is a central or defensive midfielder and Joe Cole is indeed a winger/attacking midfielder.Quote:
Originally Posted by .Shaun,,
I'd agree with StefanWolves and say it isn't as strong as it should be. £35M is still a ridiculous price for Andy Carroll though, that argument goes on.
Yet they're still in a better position than Wolves...:hmm::hmm:
How predictable, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by mynameiswootzeh
What your forgetting is, players are playing in different roles under Kenny.
Then please take us through 'King Kennys' plans of dominance.Quote:
Originally Posted by .Shaun,,
I'm just going off how he has played the team recently. If I knew how he was going to 'dominate' am sure every other manager would be asking me that to, even tho I ask the same question to my self every weekend.
As Shaun listed really. Just because they're not NORMALLY on the wings, doesn't mean they can't play there. Kuyt isn't the greatest winger I admit, but Meirelles is, Cole is, Johnson is.
I forgot the season ends in February.Quote:
Originally Posted by mynameiswootzeh
Wonder how long it is before your banned. Don't you get the message? You're not wanted.
Btw you can shut it cause we've already beat you this season.
Edit- The lack of footballing knowledge in this section lately is scary. Saying Kelly, Kuyt, Mereiles etc are wingers is actually hilarious.
Unless Liverpool get some proper wingers e.g. Shaun Wright-Phillips/Ashley Young, Andy Carroll will be one huge flop.
Hey I'm just stating the obviuos! It's not like Wovles are going to be ahead of Liverpool at the end of the season, you'll be in the championship. how about you stop attempting to troll liverpools fans?Quote:
Originally Posted by StefanWolves
oh you mad cause im stylin' on you
Just because their normal position is not winger, doesn't mean they can't play well there.Quote:
Originally Posted by StefanWolves
Tbh just because Wolves are on the verge of being religated, does not mean other teams are to. Liverpool have players capable of playing on the wings, Johnson and kelly make great runs from being left and right defence. Johnson's played the left wing many of times. Look at Kuyt and Joe Cole, Cole can play centre, Kuyt can play as a striker but they always get different posistions, as stated above just because they are named as playing in one role does not mean they can't play in others. So I really don't get what your problem is, I don't see you ripping the likes of Everton apart or Man City. Perfect example City players play all over the place so why can't Liverpool's? :S
Liverpool should have got Ashley Young and I hope they try and do something in the summer. They do have players who can play on the wings and do a decent job such as Kuyt but perhaps maybe bring in a specific winger in the summe and i'm sure they will challenging for Champions League places!
Summer transfer window will be interesting, will prob invest in a new winger and maybe sell Lucas?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andeeh
Why sell Lucas? He's a good player and ever-improving, he's still young as well. Sell Kuyt imo. He hasn't done much really. He's just there to fill in the gaps now because we don't need him up front.Quote:
Originally Posted by .Shaun,,
Did we sell Babel in the end because he's a winger?
I don't really like Lucas he annoys me sometimes :/ I like Kuyt especially when he's up for the game hopefully ready for Sunday! Yeah we sold Babel which was disappointing he was a good player left wing and a striker, liking Ngog to tho! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Conservative,
It's February. We're only 3 points away from 17th.Quote:
Originally Posted by .Shaun,,
Wow..
Lucas is a better player than Kuyt imo...better all round and he's younger & could still improve. Shame we sold Babel, we need to give Ngog more of a run, when he's played, he's played well.Quote:
Originally Posted by .Shaun,,
Some of these posts are a joke, and is why this section is awful nowadays.
So your comeback for Stefan is: They're better then wolves? Yes Liverpool are better then Wolves, what's your point. What an immature reply.
Anyway, Liverpool have poor width. Someone just said Miereles is a great winger, and so is Johnson? You know nothing about your players if you think that. Miereles isn't a winger, far from it.
Liverpool have barely any natural width. Bendtner plays on the wing for us nowadays in most games, doesn't mean he's a good winger does it? Kuyt is average as a winger, so is Jovanovic who is actually poor so far. Cole isn't a natural winger anymore, he prefurs to play centrally. Maxi is a natural winger in a way, but nobody else in your squad is and it isn't even a debatable point, it's fact.
Nobody asked about Arsenal?Quote:
Originally Posted by CHA!NGANG
The thread said 'Liverpool no width.' We've named people who play on the wings and can go on from there, also named people who have played there so i don't see your problem.
Just to add in a previous post you said 'Liverpool would be a good team if we had a DM and a LB' make your mind up.
It's a comparison. Bloody hell, what happened to the days where you didn't have to explain every single post you made and could assume that posters actually didn't post rubbish replies.Quote:
Originally Posted by .Shaun,,
You've named players who can play on the wing yes, but you've not named natural wingers, which you only have 1 of. The thread was made to say that Liverpool have no natural wingers, not that Liverpool have no make-shift wingers who can play there. Heck, you can stick a DM as a CB and he can do an ok job, doesn't make him a CB does it?
And yes, you need a LB and a DM first imo in your first team, and a backup winger or two would also be very useful but you're not made of money. I thought every Liverpool fan knew you needed a LB first, or again am I assuming that you thought before you posted?
Yeah I know we do. What I was saying was one min your saying we've got nothing then in the post before we only need 2 more players to be a good team, so your contradicting your self.Quote:
Originally Posted by CHA!NGANG
I was talking about your first XI, If J. Cole finds form again, then there will be no need for a starting winger as there would be no room, but you do need backup wingers who are natural ones. If Cole doesn't find form, then another winger who can start would be very useful. I know Cole isn't a natural winger, but there's no need spending money on a winger atm when you desperately need a LB. But it still doesn't change the fact that you have barely any natural width.Quote:
Originally Posted by .Shaun,,
Liverpool are better than Wolves.Quote:
Originally Posted by CHA!NGANG
Liverpool have no width but Wolves do, what's the point of this thread? You obviously don't need width to do well
So you think Liverpool are doing well then for a club of there stature? Again, think before you post. Wolves have width yes, but they also don't have world class players, they don't even have top class players. They also aren't expected to finish high, they're expected so survive.Quote:
Originally Posted by mynameiswootzeh
How about comparing Liverpool to similar stature teams.
United - Valencia and Nani
Arsenal - Arshavin, Walcott, Nasri
Chelsea - Malouda and Anelka in a way
Spurs - Lennon, Bale
City - Johnson, Silva
Liverpool, Maxi... that's it and he's not even great.
They're surviving, and pushing for a place in Europe thats enough for them this season, without any width.Quote:
Originally Posted by CHA!NGANG
Pushing for a place in the Europa League? If Liverpool fans are content with that then they have low standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by mynameiswootzeh
they HAVE to have low standards after the first half of the season they had, they cant expect to just go straight back into the top 4. Next season sure they can expect all they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by CHA!NGANG
Yes, and how do you intend on them getting back into the top 4? By buying players? By buying a winger?Quote:
Originally Posted by mynameiswootzeh
The point of the thread is to point out the first that Liverpool have hardly any width. Yes they have low standards this season, but clearly them spending big on 2 strikers shows that they intend of trying to get back to the top, but without players to create chances for these strikers, it's pointless having them which is the point of the thread.
Why do they NEED width? They're doing sufficiently well, winning 3 on the trot without it. Tell me why they NEED width please, all-knowing arsenal fan :rolleyes: (Is there such a thing? lol no)Quote:
Originally Posted by CHA!NGANG
No team NEEDS width. I'm pretty sure there are tactics such as "counter-attack" and "through balls" which work perfectly well. Yes - going down the line is a good option, but going down the middle, if your players have the skill, is equally good - and Liverpool have that. We don't NEED wingers. We NEED some defenders tbh. Carragher & Kyragiakos (or however you spell his name) will retire soon and we already need a left back as you said.
Don't forget the game in hand LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Heart
People on this forum are delusional. Kuyt, a wing man, haha yea guys carry on living n cloud nine, ******* clowns.
---------- Post added 05-02-2011 at 12:32 PM ----------
Omg you just don't get it ANDY CARROLL NEEDS BALLS IN THE BOX. You have no width apart from a full back who can't defend. Its funny actually, watching Soccer Saturday and the 'experts' are saying the exact same that I am. Seems that you and your ******* are in the minority. Glory hunting *******.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conservative,
You're 3 points off 17th but Birmingham have a game in hand over you.Quote:
Originally Posted by StefanWolves
Anyone can put balls in the box, you don't NEED a winger to do it? :S
I can't be bothered reading the thread but are people slating Kuyt? He'll be the main man when Carroll is fit, I'd be more scared of him than anyone else. He's better than Nolan and look at the partnership him and Carroll formed. Knock down and tap it in.
Do you really believe Mereiles, Kuyt, Gerrard etc are going to RUN PAST defenders and get a perfect ball in the box? That's not what they specialise in. It's like putting a centre back at left back, it's make shift and just about does a job but is highly risky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conservative,
Quote:
Originally Posted by mynameiswootzeh
Name one 1 world class side (which is what Liverpool should be aspiring to be), that has no width and nobody on the wings who can run past players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conservative,
A world class side needs width, end of. Yes mid table teams can cope without it. There's no point spending millions on Carroll when he's not worth it, and not having anyone to provide for him.
Not having wingers isn't exactly a concern for some teams. Chelsea and Inter get most of their width from overlapping attacking full backs (Maicon, Cole, Bosingwa etc). Chelsea do play people wide, but I wouldn't put Malouda/ Kalou in the same bracket as a Walcott, Johnson, Bale, Lennon, Coleman who I'd decsribe as strict 'wide men'.
Johnson/ Kelly/ Aurelio provide Liverpool with their width. It's not great but it's still width.