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    Quote Originally Posted by Mentor
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    an animal is not consios of its own exsitance, its brain is not cabale of bewing aware of what it is. This is unqie to humans. If your not aware of being, then you do not cair wahat happens. Its like if your unconios, you odnt cair what happens your not even aware of the not cairg, and if you never wokre up you never would be, as an animal never becomes consios life and death mean nothing to them.

    Athogh maybe this is a topic for another debate?

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    Thats why it is ok to Fox Hunt and kill them. As they are not aware of it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoneInc
    Thats why it is ok to Fox Hunt and kill them. As they are not aware of it!
    That's awfull. I hate fox hunts. That is just sad.
    And I know it's sarcastic what you are saying but fox hunting and animal testing are 2 very different things. I mean we aren't comparing a flood and a war either are we?
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    A Fox doesn't feel pain neither does an animal in a testing lab as it doesn't know of it's own existence. All they live by is hunting for food, sleeping, making babies and going to the toilet.

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    I say if your against it you should be reccomended to be tested on.

    No? So we'll just live with all sorts of diseases we have the potential to cure, but nothing to test them on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacko2kn3
    I say if your against it you should be reccomended to be tested on.

    No? So we'll just live with all sorts of diseases we have the potential to cure, but nothing to test them on?
    Good thought

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    I totally disagree with animal testing, and who ever said animals have no idea whats going on are very idiotic. Of course animals know whats going on, if not, then they wouldnt have to chain the animal down and force it into them, animals know when they are going to get hurt, or if they are in danger, as they try to run away, thats why you see prey running away from its predator, thats why animals hide from the humans who hurt them.
    Animal testing is wrong in all diffrent ways, first of all, animals have no say in wether they want to be tested on or not. Second of all, animals have a completely diffrent system to the human body, so the results are innacurate, even if the animals body wasn't COMPLETELY diffrent, it would still be innacurate, as one small change could affect the whole test, so they should use humans as a test. I completely disagree with animal testing, and its better about 5 humans dieing for a ACCURATE result, rather than 500 animals dieing for INACCURATE results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by la-ur-en
    I totally disagree with animal testing, and who ever said animals have no idea whats going on are very idiotic. Of course animals know whats going on, if not, then they wouldnt have to chain the animal down and force it into them, animals know when they are going to get hurt, or if they are in danger, as they try to run away, thats why you see prey running away from its predator, thats why animals hide from the humans who hurt them.
    Animal testing is wrong in all diffrent ways, first of all, animals have no say in wether they want to be tested on or not. Second of all, animals have a completely diffrent system to the human body, so the results are innacurate, even if the animals body wasn't COMPLETELY diffrent, it would still be innacurate, as one small change could affect the whole test, so they should use humans as a test. I completely disagree with animal testing, and its better about 5 humans dieing for a ACCURATE result, rather than 500 animals dieing for INACCURATE results.
    Actaly the diffrence between a mouse an a human isnt that differnt, a human and a pig is almost identcicle, where no a complty diffrent thing.

    If youd rather they test on you, go sign up. Overwize you cant realy complein.

    ANimals run due to instinced., not fear, rection to a sitution doenst not requite consios intlergetnt.

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    Think of the bots on my forum. They have thounsds of diffrent responces fior differnt sitution etc. that doesnt mean its consiolly making a desiion.

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    Are you trying to compare animals with robots? Animals have feelings, they know when they have done wrong, they know when they're in trouble, there for, THEY HAVE A CONSCIENCE, if they had no conscience, they would be animals that would just attack all the time, as nothing would be saying not to, its PEOPLE who don't have conscience's, if they did, they would realise that animal cruelty is wrong. The technology nowadays is alot better than what it was 10 years ago, so they have no excuse to use animals for tests, they could easily take blood samples from humans and work on it from there. AHHHH it makes me so stressed, EVERY SINGLE CREATURE ON THIS EARTH HAVE FEELINGS, THATS WHY THEY RUN FROM THINGS AND GET SCARED, AND GET EXCITED, IF ANIMALS HAD NO CONSCIENCE, OR HAD NO FEELINGS, IM PRETTY SURE YOU WOULD HAVE A VERY BORING DOG, WITH NO SHOW OF FEELINGS AT ANY POINT IN TIME!
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    Quote Originally Posted by la-ur-en
    Are you trying to compare animals with robots? Animals have feelings, they know when they have done wrong, they know when they're in trouble, there for, THEY HAVE A CONSCIENCE, if they had no conscience, they would be animals that would just attack all the time, as nothing would be saying not to, its PEOPLE who don't have conscience's, if they did, they would realise that animal cruelty is wrong. The technology nowadays is alot better than what it was 10 years ago, so they have no excuse to use animals for tests, they could easily take blood samples from humans and work on it from there. AHHHH it makes me so stressed, EVERY SINGLE CREATURE ON THIS EARTH HAVE FEELINGS, THATS WHY THEY RUN FROM THINGS AND GET SCARED, AND GET EXCITED, IF ANIMALS HAD NO CONSCIENCE, OR HAD NO FEELINGS, IM PRETTY SURE YOU WOULD HAVE A VERY BORING DOG, WITH NO SHOW OF FEELINGS AT ANY POINT IN TIME!
    I can't be bothered to read any post by you anymore, its a laod of garbage all this animals rights rubbish, who cares?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave.
    I can't be bothered to read any post by you anymore, its a laod of garbage all this animals rights rubbish, who cares?
    Good, i'd rather you didn't read them as you just come out with sarcastic comments like that, which mean no sense and nobody finds amusing, and if animal rights are rubbish, then as someone said 'we are animals' so technically so are our rights, IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY?
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