• Some constructive critisism about HabboxForum's rules •

[Biseinen]

Before you read on, be warned that this is a semi-long read and that if you do comment on this and give your opinion to make sure you read it and not just 2 sentences. Thank you.

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• Introduction -

This is not a flame thread directed at HabboxForum or any members that are apart of HabboxForum. My views do not repersent anyone elses except my own.

The following you read are opinions an they're not due to cause offense to anyone since not being directed at anyone person/member or the site its self. If you can't read other peoples opinions without shouting and ranting, then please don't read the rest of this thread.

This is constructive cristism by me, CloudClone so I would appreciate comments, feedback as long as they're posted in a manner which is the same as mine, respectful to all other members/staff on this forum.

• Infractions -

This is one of my biggest constructions and which I will go on about now.

We recieve infractions by Training Moderators, Moderators, Super-Moderators and anyone above this postion. (Managment, forum managers, etc...) This system in my opinion is very wrong in alot of ways. I have recieved a total of 8 infractions and 4 have been reversed, (If my memory serves me correctly). That's half of my infractions reveresed due to the mistakes of the person giving them. The ones that have been reversed have mainly been from Moderators on Trial. This is bad. They should not be given this kind of 'power' till they have been proven to give a good judgement.

Which brings me on to a point. There should be a set group of people specificially allowed to give infractions, not just everyone with a slight bit of moderation power. This is how problems and mistakes occure.

I propose that you have a selection of staff who have proved their judgment through a test or something which shows they're responsible enough to have the responsibility of handing out infractions. These people could be reconised by a certain coloured username, or displayed on a page which lists the people who are the 'Infraction Police' or whatever you want to call them.

This needs to improve. (The system is fair, if done correctly!)

• HabboxForums Rules -

Now, onto your rules here. Yes, they're rules and we have to follow them if we wish to be apart of your community, right? Yes, that is true but you seem to think that we are 10 and going to meet up with people off the internet in a secluded area where we will be kidnapped.

95% of the people on here know the risks of this and know that it should not be done.

For instance, the Myspace thing. What is the harm in giving out your myspace? Because of phedophiles? Yes, but there are those in real life, on our streets just the same as on chatrooms and such. Myspace reaches MILLIONS of people world wide and is accepted as an online community of people of ALL ages to interact, chat and be free to express opinions and such. Habbox needs to lighten up on this, there are millions upon millions of people who share there photo's of friends, themselves and even there pets. You need to see that we're not 8 and have the responsibility to make our own decisions on posting our Myspaces.

Yes, there will be people who don't want others to know there Myspace. Fine for them, then they don't post and that is their decision and WE RESPECT THAT.

Paypals new sign up menu allows people as young as 13 to register an account and when upon sending money to an Ebayer, a friend, or a subscription, it posts your full address and your full name. Now, Paypal is also used world wide by millions of young teens/adults/parents who view that and it does no harm.

• HabboxForums Rules² -

The stricness of your rules is just... Abysmal. I mean, Yes, there are people who don't follow them but you deal with them acordingly. Infractions for going 'offtopic'. Don't you think that is a bit overboard? We are mostly teenagers who want to express our opinions and have fun. (Isn't that what habbox is about? Having fun in the community?)

Sure, if someone posts a picture of a naked man, you'll warn/ban and do what you must because that is a blatent mistreat of the rules, but for the people that follow them and get the stick from the moderators or the sub-forum mangers/staff, it's a bit stupid.

You're not an official fansite and from what I've heard you don't want to be, if so then, why don't you lighten the rules up. You don't need all these rules.

For instance, signature limitation and size. It's horrible. People won't abuse if there is no rule to it and anyone who does do an extremly large image, you can just remove it, but images which are like 2 pixels bigger than the set standards and removed by a moderator for being 'too big' is just ridiculas and pathetic. (As it has happened to me)

• MSN/Instant Messengers/Myspaces. Etc... -

Why do you have a problem with this? On my profile, it says I'm from Oxford, in the united kingdom, I've said my name, I've said almost practically
my information, what more would I tell someone on Messenger? Or what more would it give away on myspace? NOTHING.

So what we have pictures of ourselves. To locate someone from a picture in a city if you did not know them or anything is slim and who in there right mind would do that? Phedophiles? Maybe, but the risk of that or anything is the same risk as any other danger in life. Getting hit by a car, getting into arguments with people, fights, hell even terrorism. It's something which is an outside factor which can't be controlled. Instant messenger is basically the same as this forum except you can have real time messages and conversations with friends you meet and you only add the people you know and people you've met. if you don't liek someone or they suggest something, theres the magical BLOCK button and you use your common sense to ignore them.

I can guarentee, 90% or more of this forum has some sort of instant messenger/myspace/picture orientated website and use it everyday correctly and safely and the fact that HabboxForum are telling us we can give it out to the people we know, OUR friends, makes no sense. This rule should be reviewed.

• Conclusion -

Please review your rules/the way you 'disiplin' us and try to think of what I've said here and maybe think about us and the community.

~ Karl

Thread closed by ,Jess, (Forum Super Moderator): Due to bump.

[brandon]

well construced post, I echo your opinion over most of those.

[---MAD---]

That is a fantastic thread. I like the way its laid out etc.

There are some very valid points such as the off topic posting rules, wrongly given out infractions. We are looking into all these and trying to improve the rules etc. Just give it time I would say.

I don't think however though that habbox would allow emails/myspace etc as its dangerous for younger people. They may not know its dangerous and just post it and not know what can happen, that's the problem with young audiences on the net.

[vibrant]

I totally agree with your infraction opinion.
Trial moderators shouldn't be given power to infraction as yes they do make mistakes and we get in trouble for their poor sense of judjement. not aimed at all trial mod

& Also the Myspace & Msn one. We should be given the option to give them out.
If we don't want to then we don't.
I for one wouldn't mind this and I think we should be entitled to give out our information like that.

the signature size limit is a bit ott aswell fair enough, large images take ages to load for people but yeah about the 2 px bigger that is just too far.


Overall I agree with your points that you have made.
I'd +rep you but i cant.

[brandon]

That is a fatastic thread. I like the way its laid out etc. Let me finish reading lol :p.

Omg how dare you call a thread, fat! :@

Good to see your opinion out without being locked tho

[Axel]

So much of that is true... very well done.

All of it just makes so much sense, like the signature one. But then again about that, if it was a few pixels over, and Habbox just left it, someone ele would go a few pixels over the few pixels over, etc etc, and the sigs would keep getting bigger.

But the msn/myspace, totally agree with that. And it's not like people don't pm them to each other anyway.

[dirrty]

Too much power to lower ranks. I think forum mods shouldnt be able to give infractions but since there is a report infractions, it doesnt matter.

Also, when it comes to report the infractions, the mod who gave you the infraction should not be able to reply to your report. Its not fair and that mod is not going to change his/her mind.

Good post btw. I can tell you have thought that through alot.

[---MAD---]

I totally agree with your infraction opinion.
Trial moderators shouldn't be given power to infraction as yes they do make mistakes and we get in trouble for their poor sense of judjement. not aimed at all trial mod

& Also the Myspace & Msn one. We should be given the option to give them out.
If we don't want to then we don't.
I for one wouldn't mind this and I think we should be entitled to give out our information like that.

the signature size limit is a bit ott aswell fair enough, large images take ages to load for people but yeah about the 2 px bigger that is just too far.


Overall I agree with your points that you have made.
I'd +rep you but i cant.

Well thats how we decide if a moderator can pass. If they can't decide properly as a trialist mod, how will they be able to do so as normal mods. This gives them a chance to show they know what they are doing .

[Joord]

I think giving out myspace/msn should be your own choice! Links to forums that allow you to give out msn etc are not filtered, so its pointless getting punished for posting it in THIS forum.

[dirrty]

I think giving out myspace/msn should be your own choice! Links to forums that allow you to give out msn etc are not filtered, so its pointless getting punished for posting it in THIS forum.

Could have content which is not allowed or anything like that.