Christmas changing to 'Winterval'.

[dirrty]

But this is a Christian Nation, we should get some benefits....

Benefits for being a christian nation?

What the hell?
Why would the government do that?
They will lose money!

[Leigh]

Don't patronise me; I'm not one to make a statement haphazardly. The thread is pointless as "Winterval" (a merge of winter and festival), is a term used to describe several festivals around winter. It isn't a replacement for the word "Christmas", but a way for people speaking to several different cultures to address festivals around that time of year (without excluding people). I'm not going to use the term, and I doubt the majority of society will.

Anyhow, thanks for your conclusions on the matter.

Indeed so.. although there's still no reason why we should discuss it?
At least i dont see there to be.

[Leigh]

Yes we are but the people who reside in the UK now are not all Christians. There are many religions here now so thats why i said multi-cultural

Ah, i understood what you meant.. just wanted somone to clear that up that's all.. for my personal use.

Cheers =)

[FlyingJesus]

Yes we are officially a Christian country, but with a multi-cultural society.

I think this whole affair is disgusting to be honest. I'm not a Christian myself and I have respect for all faiths, but there is no reason that we shouldn't be allowed to have festivals with a Christian theme in a country that is predominantly Christian. Do the few people who move from Britain to countries of other religions riot and force them to remove religious imagery from their festivals? Of course not, and we shouldn't allow it here.

I won't claim stupid things like "all Muslims are a problem", but the Muslims who do get offended by Christian images should have thought of that before moving to a Christian country, or just put up with it. As I said, I'm not a Christian, but if you take away the Christian elements of Christmas then what does it become? Aside from the presents people like our winter holiday because of the phenomena of "the Christmas spirit", but if it's made to be simply a summer holiday in the cold then we lose a big part of our culture and heritage.

I'm not saying we should kick out all the Muslims, or stop them from having their festivals, but they shouldn't stop us from having ours. If I claimed that I found Muslim festivals offensive I'd be prosecuted for racism, it seems that these days the only people who have rights are minorities, and if you're a healthy, white, Christian male you can't speak out against anything without being locked up.

[nets]

there's still no reason why we should discuss it?

Exactly. There's no reason for us to debate about something, which happens to be someone's misunderstanding of a word's denotation.

[Axel]

Yes we are officially a Christian country, but with a multi-cultural society.

I think this whole affair is disgusting to be honest. I'm not a Christian myself and I have respect for all faiths, but there is no reason that we shouldn't be allowed to have festivals with a Christian theme in a country that is predominantly Christian. Do the few people who move from Britain to countries of other religions riot and force them to remove religious imagery from their festivals? Of course not, and we shouldn't allow it here.

I won't claim stupid things like "all Muslims are a problem", but the Muslims who do get offended by Christian images should have thought of that before moving to a Christian country, or just put up with it. As I said, I'm not a Christian, but if you take away the Christian elements of Christmas then what does it become? Aside from the presents people like our winter holiday because of the phenomena of "the Christmas spirit", but if it's made to be simply a summer holiday in the cold then we lose a big part of our culture and heritage.

I'm not saying we should kick out all the Muslims, or stop them from having their festivals, but they shouldn't stop us from having ours. If I claimed that I found Muslim festivals offensive I'd be prosecuted for racism, it seems that these days the only people who have rights are minorities, and if you're a healthy, white, Christian male you can't speak out against anything without being locked up.

That sums up what I wanted to say. + rep.

[jackass]

Yes we are officially a Christian country, but with a multi-cultural society.

I think this whole affair is disgusting to be honest. I'm not a Christian myself and I have respect for all faiths, but there is no reason that we shouldn't be allowed to have festivals with a Christian theme in a country that is predominantly Christian. Do the few people who move from Britain to countries of other religions riot and force them to remove religious imagery from their festivals? Of course not, and we shouldn't allow it here.

I won't claim stupid things like "all Muslims are a problem", but the Muslims who do get offended by Christian images should have thought of that before moving to a Christian country, or just put up with it. As I said, I'm not a Christian, but if you take away the Christian elements of Christmas then what does it become? Aside from the presents people like our winter holiday because of the phenomena of "the Christmas spirit", but if it's made to be simply a summer holiday in the cold then we lose a big part of our culture and heritage.

I'm not saying we should kick out all the Muslims, or stop them from having their festivals, but they shouldn't stop us from having ours. If I claimed that I found Muslim festivals offensive I'd be prosecuted for racism, it seems that these days the only people who have rights are minorities, and if you're a healthy, white, Christian male you can't speak out against anything without being locked up.

VERY well said! + Rep!

[Samster]

tbh its OUR country,who gives two ****s whether they feel left out or not-It very much angers me

[Josh-H]

Ok look, all you idiots against racism shut up, see what its doing to our country.

CHRISTMAS IS BEING CLASSED AS RACIST BECAUSE ITS LEAVING PEOPLE OUT.

If people feel left out, become a christian join in! Or *** off bak to their land where you can all drink rum and plan attacks! IM SORRY I KNOW IT AINT ALL OF THE ASIANS, But a large amount from an early age have it drilled intoi them that they should be against christianity!

[Herman]

I KNOW IT AINT ALL OF THE ASIANS, But a large amount from an early age have it drilled intoi them that they should be against christianity!

And I'm sure there are christians out there as well who are against islam and would stay away from muslims just because they think muslims blow up everything, which is just silly. :rolleyes: