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    Quote Originally Posted by Herman View Post
    I'm just saying this. Over here in singapore, we have people of all sorts of religions, muslims, christians, buddhists, hindus and much more, and people of all sorts of races. We have been taught since young to respect and accept other people's culture and beliefs.

    We have been living in peace for many years. When christmas decorations are being put up in public places, the people of other religions don't complain. When eid decorations are being put up, the people of other religions don't complain either. It goes the same for diwali, chinese new year, etc.

    During the religious celebrations, the people even invite others of a different religion to come celebrate with them. I've seen christians celebrating eid with muslims, muslims celebrating christmas with their Christian friends etc. If we can do it, why can't you? I'm just saying this, not trying to find an argument or whatever.
    On this i do completely agree with you, but the problem remains that people in england including polatitions are phobic of any religion related discussion. Hence They make stupid rash desisons when theres even a hint that an issue may exist. In my exsperince what you have described does happen over here, im as happy to join in with any religuous festival, and so are most the people i know, reguadless of belifes or religions "/ Personly i attach no more value to christan holidays than any other, its simply the matter that since more people celerbrate some than others, i join in with them. The actual celibrations usealy have around ZERO to do with the religions anyway much of the time, insted simply about good values, friends family, exchangeing gifts etc "/


    Quote Originally Posted by Zuar View Post
    I strongly agree.
    They all reckon there great,
    and they come to our schools,
    wear head dresses etc,
    who do they think they are,
    and if we wear a cap,
    we get told off,
    we should just kill them all,
    if tony blair would just get off his ***,
    also if some of the old kings and queens of the UK,
    was around now it would be great !
    But if they knew about what was happening,
    they would flip,
    and giving the british empire back was another bad thing.

    Enough said.
    You know, i considered exsplaining to you how stupid and idiotic what you just said was, but thinking about it, its quite plainly obvious from this you'd be to stupid and idiotic to understand what i would say anyway, so i decided not to bother.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meyaz View Post
    I'm outraged at this! I for one am a Christian and Chritmas is a very important date for Christians. I would not like to call Christianity a Religion because it's a friendship.
    Nooo christanty is a religion, it fits the definition perfectly.

    Anyway back to the point ! How dare they do this! They can't change it to Winterval THEY CAN'T change the day Jesus was born.
    lol, your aware they move the date of "christmas" over a month to co-enside with the already existing and established pagan mid-winter festival, from which nearly all of the custsom come right? They moved jesus's brithdate to start with just so people would be more happy to convert. the figure known as Jesus was actualy born in late january i belive...

    Pffft they will never take the meaning of it away. It's just politics trying to make everything politically correct! Soon there will be no easter, all Celebrations and festivails will have different names so no one will get offended. I mean do me grunt and moan and try to get Muslims to rename Eid? eh I did'nt think so thats my point made!
    Before this thread did you even know what Eid was? becuse i mentioned it once and now everyones useing it as there exsample?
    Plus no ones been told they cant call it christmas, there just not allowed to advertise it, When was the last advert for Eid you say may i ask??

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01101101entor View Post
    On this i do completely agree with you, but the problem remains that people in england including polatitions are phobic of any religion related discussion. Hence They make stupid rash desisons when theres even a hint that an issue may exist. In my exsperince what you have described does happen over here, im as happy to join in with any religuous festival, and so are most the people i know, reguadless of belifes or religions "/ Personly i attach no more value to christan holidays than any other, its simply the matter that since more people celerbrate some than others, i join in with them. The actual celibrations usealy have around ZERO to do with the religions anyway much of the time, insted simply about good values, friends family, exchangeing gifts etc "/



    You know, i considered exsplaining to you how stupid and idiotic what you just said was, but thinking about it, its quite plainly obvious from this you'd be to stupid and idiotic to understand what i would say anyway, so i decided not to bother.


    Nooo christanty is a religion, it fits the definition perfectly.



    lol, your aware they move the date of "christmas" over a month to co-enside with the already existing and established pagan mid-winter festival, from which nearly all of the custsom come right? They moved jesus's brithdate to start with just so people would be more happy to convert. the figure known as Jesus was actualy born in late january i belive...


    Before this thread did you even know what Eid was? becuse i mentioned it once and now everyones useing it as there exsample?
    Plus no ones been told they cant call it christmas, there just not allowed to advertise it, When was the last advert for Eid you say may i ask??
    One I see it as a friendship!
    Two Don't try and be a smart so and so it's the day we see that Jesus was born
    Three I am very well educated Eid and I was not on about advertisments I was on about how we don't try and change the name of Eid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meyaz View Post
    One I see it as a friendship!
    Well even you said religion first, plus how you see it doesnt really effect how it is

    Two Don't try and be a smart so and so it's the day we see that Jesus was born
    Well, dispite your belife, this part is actualy documented history, so no its not, Even without the move to coenside with the pagen festival, it would still be out a few weeks due to changes and reworks in the calender system used (noted the creator of the chirstan calender was actually roman and belived in the romans gods) "/ and im not being smart, im simply stateing the reality. I personly disagree with the whole "ignorance is bliss", idea but, its your choice.

    Three I am very well educated Eid and I was not on about advertisments I was on about how we don't try and change the name of Eid.

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    Well the winterval change is really only about the advertisment, i suggest reading the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01101101entor View Post
    Well even you said religion first, plus how you see it doesnt really effect how it is

    Well, dispite your belife, this part is actualy documented history, so no its not, Even without the move to coenside with the pagen festival, it would still be out a few weeks due to changes and reworks in the calender system used (noted the creator of the chirstan calender was actually roman and belived in the romans gods) "/ and im not being smart, im simply stateing the reality. I personly disagree with the whole "ignorance is bliss", idea but, its your choice.


    Well the winterval change is really only about the advertisment, i suggest reading the thread.
    Well I suggest to you that I have read the thread and that I was stating what I thought.
    So I suggest you stop trying make people look stuipid and
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meyaz View Post
    I would not like to call Christianity a Religion because it's a friendship.
    Why do you think it's a friendship?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meyaz View Post
    THEY CAN'T change the day Jesus was born. Pffft they will never take the meaning of it away.
    I was told by my christian friend that the 25th of december is not Jesus' real birthday, according to Christianity. Entor is right. Do you even know your own religion tbh? If not why flame other religions?

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    Christmas technically never was about the birth of Christ, but ignorant people just assumed it, now thats what everyone believes. Its a historical fact that Jesus was born in spring.

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    ah the answer to the friendship question is that we treat god like our father / friend and we build an intimate friendship with him.

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    I think it will probably be different adverts et.c for different regions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meyaz View Post
    ah the answer to the friendship question is that we treat god like our father / friend and we build an intimate friendship with him.
    Or as most people say, you worship him. Thus religion.

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