Giving out eMail's

[nvrspk4]

The thing is, we cannot condone you giving it out directly on the forum. This is because if you are allowed to give out MSN messenger on the forum, the forum becomes responsible if any harm comes directly or indirectly through this action. An example you may remember is "Helen Cross" a member who pretended her child had been exploited through MSN messenger. I'll ask if I may show you what it was, but if any of you remember she basically said "O MY DAUGHTER IS BEING MOLESTED BY YOUR MODERATOR, HE TOLD HER TO GIV HIM HER MSN N THEN THEY DID DURTYYY STUFF" but it was laid out as an adult might say it and they demanded action and stuff from Habbox. If I hadn't figured out they were using www.schoolboredom.com so we couldn't find which forum member they were as we knew it was fake, we might've had a harder time disproving it.

But basically what that goes to say is that we can be held liable for that.

The easiest way to do it really is just ask over PM if they have a certain person on their list and ask if that person can give you their address. Or ask someone on your messenger if they have that person's.

Also, regarding people saying to use the PM system, technically you shouldn't so you have to make 100% sure the person won't report you as you can get infracted and in a lot of trouble if they do report you, so try not to use that too much unless its necessary and you know they won't report you :p

[F32]

Hmm.

Interesting point you make; but wouldn't it be fair to put a clause in the rules stating 'you can exchange instant messaging addresses at your own risk'?

[Barkseh2131]

Why would you want to give your E-Mail address out to 100s of people to add you?

[F32]

Why would you want to give your E-Mail address out to 100s of people to add you?

You can decline it...

[Barkseh2131]

You can decline it...

Yeah but why would you want loads of people to add you when you can just pm the person(s) that you want to have it and avoid all the unwanted requests.

tbh you havent really give a good enough reason for them to change the rules although there is nout really wrong with giving your own email to who you want.

[Mentor]

The thing is, we cannot condone you giving it out directly on the forum. This is because if you are allowed to give out MSN messenger on the forum, the forum becomes responsible if any harm comes directly or indirectly through this action. An example you may remember is "Helen Cross" a member who pretended her child had been exploited through MSN messenger. I'll ask if I may show you what it was, but if any of you remember she basically said "O MY DAUGHTER IS BEING MOLESTED BY YOUR MODERATOR, HE TOLD HER TO GIV HIM HER MSN N THEN THEY DID DURTYYY STUFF" but it was laid out as an adult might say it and they demanded action and stuff from Habbox. If I hadn't figured out they were using www.schoolboredom.com so we couldn't find which forum member they were as we knew it was fake, we might've had a harder time disproving it.

But basically what that goes to say is that we can be held liable for that.

The easiest way to do it really is just ask over PM if they have a certain person on their list and ask if that person can give you their address. Or ask someone on your messenger if they have that person's.

Also, regarding people saying to use the PM system, technically you shouldn't so you have to make 100% sure the person won't report you as you can get infracted and in a lot of trouble if they do report you, so try not to use that too much unless its necessary and you know they won't report you :p

Kinda out of context, since A the complaint only works BECUSE you dont have genral allowences for posting email.
Secondly you were only liable in this instance becuse it was one of your moderators, Nothing to do with the email exchange, or conversations takeing place on the MSN chat network. Msn is unmonitored so even MSN isnt liable. Habbox has no obligation to look after there users off the habbox websites and cannot be held liable for anything that takes place on them, any more than you can for what people find on websites linked to from this one o.0

[beth]

i agree with adam over this, i think you should have like a "give your email out at your own risk" and then have a clause somewhere in there that states habbox is not responsible for incidents regarding msn off the forum.
i mean, you don't have to give it out & there is always the reject button. aha. {:

[Mentor]

i agree with adam over this, i think you should have like a "give your email out at your own risk" and then have a clause somewhere in there that states habbox is not responsible for incidents regarding msn off the forum.
i mean, you don't have to give it out & there is always the reject button. aha. {:

There not responsible even without the clause o.0

[beth]

There not responsible even without the clause o.0

oh well that's alright then, just making sure the proposition covered their backs too innit.

[nvrspk4]

Why would you want to give your E-Mail address out to 100s of people to add you?

He makes a good point...

Hmm.

Interesting point you make; but wouldn't it be fair to put a clause in the rules stating 'you can exchange instant messaging addresses at your own risk'?

But then what happens when a staff member gives it out :p

Kinda out of context, since A the complaint only works BECUSE you dont have genral allowences for posting email.
Secondly you were only liable in this instance becuse it was one of your moderators, Nothing to do with the email exchange, or conversations takeing place on the MSN chat network. Msn is unmonitored so even MSN isnt liable. Habbox has no obligation to look after there users off the habbox websites and cannot be held liable for anything that takes place on them, any more than you can for what people find on websites linked to from this one o.0

If we had allowances it would be our fault for allowing it to take place. And regardless, yeah its our mod, do you expect us to put rules into place saying "Normal members can give out emails, staff can't" ? That's a bit unfair. Also, the exchange happened via our Private Message system. We "allowed" it to take place thus started it, and if we had stopped it the whole thing wouldn't have happened. HOWEVER it's very important to note that this is hypothetical because "Helen Cross" was a forum member using a proxy site trying to trick us :p

i agree with adam over this, i think you should have like a "give your email out at your own risk" and then have a clause somewhere in there that states habbox is not responsible for incidents regarding msn off the forum.
i mean, you don't have to give it out & there is always the reject button. aha. {:

There not responsible even without the clause o.0

We can be responsible because we allowed it to take place. If the rule is in place, we allowed our Habbox users, within our control, guidance, and rules, to create a means to take the conversation off of the forum. Also, the argument could be brought up, "My kid was 12 he doesn't know how to judge a pedo!" and even with disclaimers its not 100% possible to offset that. I don't know the exact legal technicalities, I'm a teenager in high school so I could be wrong, I'm not a student of law, but I think I have it generally though I may be completely off, and if I am feel free to correct me :p