special needs

[FlyingJesus]

I think what thread starter means is people who use behavioural disabilities as an excuse for things that they do. I doubt he meant to say "do you think people with Downs fake it?" as that would be a really stupid question. Basically, there are kids who have variously behaviour issues (ADHD etc) who quite often use that to get out of trouble. Personally I don't think this is on - if there's a rule, it goes for everyone, and just because you have trouble controlling your behaviour there shouldn't have more lenience on you than anyone else.

It's about time we stopped trying to help the kids who can't learn or won't learn, and started to give more attention to the more advanced pupils.

I was a top set student all my school life, and only 2 years out of 12 did I ever get an extra class to help me boost my learning further, and I can't remember being actually rewarded for my work at all. However, the "lower performance" students who ambled through work and failed to produce anything of value were and probably still are consistently told how great they were just for being able to write their names without burning the paper and stabbing someone with their pen. Kids who get kicked out of school for their poor behaviour get rewarded with trips to theme parks, whilst the top students are left with nothing. The excuse? "Getting good grades is a reward in itself". It's disgusting.


edit: On the topic of special schools - I believe they are a good idea IF used for people like the sibling of the above poster, because that actually helps someone and doesn't bring anyone else down. They shouldn't be used for kids who are just *******s though.

[User43]

Of course its there its mental/physical conditions. They do need help and assistance so they do have "special" needs

[Jamie!]

It's about time we stopped trying to help the kids who can't learn or won't learn, and started to give more attention to the more advanced pupils.

same thing is happening at our school, our headteacher as set up his own form group where it consists of all the trouble makers who refuse to learn/work. he is paying them £1 for every day they turn up, and is rewarding them with tickets to newcastle games if they don't get another referal til the end of the year.

[Caution]

why the hell would they use it as an excuse?

[Mentor]

whats ur opinion on this, do u think it is there or its not and they just use it as a excuse?

Well im not entirely sure what you asking? Special needs is kinda na annoying way to describe someone with a disability of some kinda, this one more often used in terms of mental disability. The disabilities are real, so "special needs" is also real.
Weather its an excuse or not is an entirely different matter which depends on the situation, since it really depends on in the instance if its being used as an excuse or not "/

[LeftForDead]

This thread is highly offensive, you are assuming that people with disabilities are just pretending to get special treatment whereas they could suffer from severe mental or physical problems.

an excuse? what the hell?

would you sit in a wheelchair 24/7, slobbering everywhere, pretending to have no control and getting stared at by everyone just to have 'an excuse'? :s

I think what thread starter means is people who use behavioural disabilities as an excuse for things that they do. I doubt he meant to say "do you think people with Downs fake it?" as that would be a really stupid question. Basically, there are kids who have variously behaviour issues (ADHD etc) who quite often use that to get out of trouble. Personally I don't think this is on - if there's a rule, it goes for everyone, and just because you have trouble controlling your behaviour there shouldn't have more lenience on you than anyone else.

It's about time we stopped trying to help the kids who can't learn or won't learn, and started to give more attention to the more advanced pupils.

I was a top set student all my school life, and only 2 years out of 12 did I ever get an extra class to help me boost my learning further, and I can't remember being actually rewarded for my work at all. However, the "lower performance" students who ambled through work and failed to produce anything of value were and probably still are consistently told how great they were just for being able to write their names without burning the paper and stabbing someone with their pen. Kids who get kicked out of school for their poor behaviour get rewarded with trips to theme parks, whilst the top students are left with nothing. The excuse? "Getting good grades is a reward in itself". It's disgusting.


edit: On the topic of special schools - I believe they are a good idea IF used for people like the sibling of the above poster, because that actually helps someone and doesn't bring anyone else down. They shouldn't be used for kids who are just *******s though.

thank you, that should answer the top two quotes