9/11 Conspiracies - What do you think happened? - [Closes 13/05/07]

[FlyingJesus]

what i was going to say

they were built so that they were protected from natural accidents eg hurricanes earthquakes etc thats why they would topple over so many people dont understand that bit

*wouldn't

[3d]

oh yeh crap my bad

[Seatherny]

My reply in red.

Loose change is mostly a load of crap, like alot of the moon landing conspircys it holds no real wieght.


The trade centers were actually designed with the idea something like this could actually happen, if you match the size of the planes up with the towers the plane's are almost the same size, its incredible they stayed up at all, but the design, kept it standing, if it was going to topple sideways dont you think a plane flying straight in to it would have pushed the building over?

The plane were the same size as the twin towers? Are you blind or just a stupid little kid??

World Trade center 9? i thought there was only two of em.

I think the person meant World Trade 7, which collasped on the same day. Wow, you are arguing about something you dont have a clue on.


I wonder, an international act of terrorism, an issue of national securty? and your surprised the FBI/CIA wanted footage of the event ?
Plus how would you tell, CCTV camra's have very slow frame rates, planes fly very fast.

Why didn't they release the tape then? What did they have to hide? How the hell do you know the video quality would be crap? Scientists could have evn checked it. Even if it has a slow frame rate, it would have still captured a massive plane, which you think was the size of the twin towers rofl. Planes fly really fast? OMG REALLY?

Probably becuse that what a plane sounds like when it wacks in to somthing at high speed, the only difference is in the payload, aircraft fule isnt quite as explosive.


Incompidence sounds more likely than a planned act, think how many people would have to be in with the conspircy to carry that off.

Well, they only need the top people from top companies and a few people willing to blow up planes. The people involved speak = murder :]

because hes good at hideing o.0 better question is why did american exert most its military effort invading a country with nothing to do with the incident.

The above sentence doesn't make sense.

When you own a massively important building worth a massive amount it would be stupid not to buy a big insurance. its odd it wasn't done immidetly.

Just a few months before it blew up? Its a old tower, why not buy it before? Why insure it especially against plan crashes?

becuse a plane with most its tank full of fule were embed in the side of the building.

Doesn't mean the building will fall.

Thats called supports buckling.

No, thats called bombs going off. The plane hit near the top. The bombs went off everywhere where they had the main support.

Quite easly if your not limiting the size of the ark it makes doing it.


The hold in the pentagon was between 16 to 20 foot right?
A 757's body is 12 ft 4in wide and 13 ft 6in high...

Adds up to me o.0 wings, nose, extra's aint gona make it threw a reinforced concrete wall, so the rest doesnt really count.

Were was the hole made by the 2 engines? The pane can't have fully burnt.


Seen it.

Loose Change is full of lies and stupidity. I found 2 mistakes on my own the first time watching it,

And those mistakes were ... ?

[RedStratocas]

The plane were the same size as the twin towers? Are you blind or just a stupid little kid??

Is insulting people the only way you know how to argue? That does nothing for your arguement. And he didnt mean the same size as in its height, he meant as in across, which is almost accurate. Congradulations on skewing his words, you'll make a great journalist.

I think the person meant World Trade 7, which
collasped on the same day. Wow, you are arguing about something you dont have a clue on.

Again with the insults? Youre wonderful really. He said the wrong name of the building, obviously THAT person doesnt know what he's talking about.

Why didn't they release the tape then? What did they have to hide? How the hell do you know the video quality would be crap? Scientists could have evn checked it. Even if it has a slow frame rate, it would have still captured a massive plane, which you think was the size of the twin towers rofl. Planes fly really fast? OMG REALLY?

They released a tape straight from the pentagon of the attack actually.

Well, they only need the top people from top companies and a few people willing to blow up planes. The people involved speak = murder :]

Then how come they cant murder the people coming out with these conspiracies then?

The above sentence doesn't make sense.

Actually it made perfect sense. We invaded Iraq, not Afghanistan, where Osama is hiding. Thats why we havent found him, because we havent really been looking.

Just a few months before it blew up? Its a old tower, why not buy it before? Why insure it especially against plan crashes?

Because insurance gets renewed. Insurance only lasts a certain amount of time, then you have to buy it again, it just happened to run out a few months before. And it wasent insured against specifically plane crashes, it was insured for terrorism. For obvious reasons, seeing as it was attacked before.

Doesn't mean the building will fall.

Doesnt mean it wont either. Mind giving us some proof that it shouldnt have fallen?

No, thats called bombs going off. The plane hit near the top. The bombs went off everywhere where they had the main support.

Who says they're bombs? When I saw the video of the supposed "bombs" before the tower fell, they were tiny little lights that could have been anything.

The hold in the pentagon was between 16 to 20 foot right?
A 757's body is 12 ft 4in wide and 13 ft 6in high...

It dug into the ground a tad.

Were was the hole made by the 2 engines? The pane can't have fully burnt.

Says who?

And those mistakes were ... ?

Read the rest of my post?

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Regarding the Pentagon:

The supposed plane that hit the pentagon would have contained 2 x 9 foot diameter engines which mysteriously disappeared. The government said that the fire was so hot it melted the engines to nothing, yet they claim they found DNA of the passengers. Erm how is that even possible? Also if you take alook at the photo below it clearly shows building materials/rubble which were caused by the impact.....But if the fire was so hot it vapourized steel and cobalt engine parts (which have very high melting points) all of the materials in this opening would have been reduced to ash. This could only mean one thing it wasnt a 757 that hit the pentagon it was something else. (Some theories suggest it was an A3 Skywarrior but i wont go into that.)

[brodeo]

ksoz is poorly fighting this debate, it is no place for insults, its a place for discussion and mature arguement.

[Ed.]

Personally I think the Al Quada - boarded the planes with like a knife or something

They threatened to kill the crew if they couldn't go into the cockpit.

Or they told the pilot to fly it into it or he would die

But I think that they flew it into the Twin Towers.

R.I.P All those who died that day

[Mentor]

The plane were the same size as the twin towers? Are you blind or just a stupid little kid??

No, i can just do math. Match up a 124 ft 10 in wingspan over the top of a 208 foot building suppored by a central core thats only 88 feet wide. Then reask the question how you espect that to hold up a building when a plains ripped half of it out. (im talking widths not hieght obviously)

World Trade center 9? i thought there was only two of em.

I think the person meant World Trade 7, which collasped on the same day. Wow, you are arguing about something you dont have a clue on.

WTC 7 is not WTC 9, and WTC7 was hit by shratanal from the orignal blast, although reportedly collapsed due to the diesel fuel reservoirs for backup power generators explodeing o.0

Also what does that have to do with the 2 towers collapsing, and what use would there be performing a controled demolition on an undamaged building that was poseing no risk from collapsing sideways anyway o.0

I wonder, an international act of terrorism, an issue of national securty? and your surprised the FBI/CIA wanted footage of the event ?
Plus how would you tell, CCTV camra's have very slow frame rates, planes fly very fast.

Why didn't they release the tape then? What did they have to hide? How the hell do you know the video quality would be crap? Scientists could have evn checked it. Even if it has a slow frame rate, it would have still captured a massive plane, which you think was the size of the twin towers rofl. Planes fly really fast? OMG REALLY?

It would be impounded as evedence if there was any invstigation o.0 Plus its CCTV? have you ever watched a CCTV camra or seen CCTV footage? its generaly pretty crap.
Plus 500mph is pretty fast for somthing thats only 47 meters long, plus width and height are slighly differnt things o.0

Probably becuse that what a plane sounds like when it wacks in to somthing at high speed, the only difference is in the payload, aircraft fule isnt quite as explosive.

Incompidence sounds more likely than a planned act, think how many people would have to be in with the conspircy to carry that off.

Well, they only need the top people from top companies and a few people willing to blow up planes. The people involved speak = murder :]

Company's dont get the insurance money, the plane industry is worth alot more than the insurance on the twin towers was, scareing people of flying, massivly reduceing there profits is a pretty stupid business practice.

because hes good at hideing o.0 better question is why did american exert most its military effort invading a country with nothing to do with the incident.

The above sentence doesn't make sense.

Well it did, Asarma = hideing
instead of looking, America go invade iraq.
You see problem

When you own a massively important building worth a massive amount it would be stupid not to buy a big insurance. its odd it wasn't done immidetly.

Just a few months before it blew up? Its a old tower, why not buy it before? Why insure it especially against plan crashes?

the question imasking to stated it was brought when they "Bought The Lease 6 Weeks Earlier", you cant insure a building you dont own to my knowlage.

becuse a plane with most its tank full of fule were embed in the side of the building.

Doesn't mean the building will fall.

Buildings stay up better without half the support structure being blown apart by explodeing fule, and without the greater part of a plain haveing wacked threw em.

Thats called supports buckling.

No, thats called bombs going off. The plane hit near the top. The bombs went off everywhere where they had the main support.

Did the army teliport in to put bombs on all the floors? controled demolitions are pretty distinctive.

The hold in the pentagon was between 16 to 20 foot right?
A 757's body is 12 ft 4in wide and 13 ft 6in high...

Adds up to me o.0 wings, nose, extra's aint gona make it threw a reinforced concrete wall, so the rest doesnt really count.

Were was the hole made by the 2 engines? The pane can't have fully burnt.

there werent any, they didnt get threw, reinforced concrete is pretty tough stuff, where it smashed in to a pillar and the bits of it splayed over the floor were pretty obvious though.


Heres part of one.

[-Soph-]

Personally I think the Al Quada - boarded the planes with like a knife or something

They threatened to kill the crew if they couldn't go into the cockpit.

Or they told the pilot to fly it into it or he would die

But I think that they flew it into the Twin Towers.

R.I.P All those who died that day

I highly doubt they'd tell the pilot to fly into it or else he would die..
he would die anyway if he flew the plane into the towers, along with thousands or others.

[Coldplay]

No, i can just do math. Match up a 124 ft 10 in wingspan over the top of a 208 foot building suppored by a central core thats only 88 feet wide. Then reask the question how you espect that to hold up a building when a plains ripped half of it out. (im talking widths not hieght obviously)

1. Most Of The JetFuel Exploded OUTSIDE Of The Tower
2. 1/18'th Of The Structural Integrity Was Damaged
3. A Plane Flew Into The Empire State Building In 1977, Is That Building Still Intact? YES.

Also;

Supported
Re-ask
Expect
I'm
Height

WTC 7 is not WTC 9, and WTC7 was hit by shratanal from the orignal blast, although reportedly collapsed due to the diesel fuel reservoirs for backup power generators explodeing o.0

Also what does that have to do with the 2 towers collapsing, and what use would there be performing a controled demolition on an undamaged building that was poseing no risk from collapsing sideways anyway o.0

Thats Rubbish, Why Would They Not Tell Anybody About Demolition, Also;

Shrapnel
Original
Exploding
Controlled
Posing

It would be impounded as evedence if there was any invstigation o.0 Plus its CCTV? have you ever watched a CCTV camra or seen CCTV footage? its generaly pretty crap.
Plus 500mph is pretty fast for somthing thats only 47 meters long, plus width and height are slighly differnt things o.0

CCTV Still Shows Us What Happened, In History I Belive It Is Called Visual Evidence

Also;

Evidence
Investigation
Generally
Something
Slightly
Different

Company's dont get the insurance money, the plane industry is worth alot more than the insurance on the twin towers was, scareing people of flying, massivly reduceing there profits is a pretty stupid business practice.

American Airlines Stocks Were Sold 11 Fold BEFORE The Crash, Thats A Lot, Also American Airlines Is Worth Less Than 3.4Bn $

No Spelling Mistakes

Well it did, Asarma = hideing
instead of looking, America go invade iraq.
You see problem

Osama Was Visited In Hospital By CIA Agents 2 Days Before

Also;

Osama
Hiding
Iraq

the question imasking to stated it was brought when they "Bought The Lease 6 Weeks Earlier", you cant insure a building you dont own to my knowlage.

He Purchased A Lease And Then Took Out Insurance 2 Days Before The Crash

Also;

I'm Asking
Don't
Knowledge

Buildings stay up better without half the support structure being blown apart by explodeing fule, and without the greater part of a plain haveing wacked threw em.

The Fuel Exploded Outside Of The Building

Also;

Exploding
Fuel
Having
Whacked

Did the army teliport in to put bombs on all the floors? controled demolitions are pretty distinctive.

And It Looked VERY Much Like One, And No They Didn't Teleport, They Put Them In When Fire Drills Started Too Take Place.

Also;

Teleport
Controlled

there werent any, they didnt get threw, reinforced concrete is pretty tough stuff, where it smashed in to a pillar and the bits of it splayed over the floor were pretty obvious though.


Heres part of one.

That Is NOT A Part Of Aircraft Fuselage It Is From SOMETHING ELSE! A 5 Ton Engine Can Break Concrete, I Assure You.

Also;

Weren't
Didn't
Through

Please Learn To Spell?

P.S. Yes I The Shift Key.