9/11 Conspiracies - What do you think happened? - [Closes 13/05/07]

[Seatherny]

That's where I got the petrol station part from, sorry I thought you'd actually read this thread.

You said I said the petrol station thing

I never said the engines fell off when the plane was flying, so don't know where you got that from. Think about it though (rather than just believing any old anti-government rubbish), if something is going very fast, is very heavy and hits something that is very hard (ie: the ground) bits break.

And the grass it lands on remains perfect? They would have found the engines and parts, they didnt find anything.

Don't tell me to explain my points properly when 1) I have and 2) none of your points are explained, it follows the lines of UR STUPID DA GOVERMT DID IT 4 DA GOLD! DER R HOLES!

I never said OMGZ THERE R HOLES M8.

Your point about how people don't "usually" want to sacrifice themselves doesn't really counter my point about how they quite easily could, and something that's had this much effect would certainly weigh heavily on someone's conscience.

As for hot liquid, I don't really know what that's about but surely the buildings were made of similar materials, so the melted bits would be the same..

Worlds tallest building, and a normal small building made of the same materials? Then you should find the hot liquid under every building, but you dont.

Tell me, why were there loads of security drills before 9/11? Why were bomb sniffing dogs removed? Why do the goverment refuse to release any tape which showed the planes hitting the pentagon - (and before people go OMGZ THEY WERE REALLY CRAP QUALITY. I KNOW COS MY DAD WORKSZ IN DA FBI - and before people go OMG NO ONE SAID THAT U NUB, I never said anyone did ) even if it was a really crap tape with a crap frame rate?

[RedStratocas]

I thought that they did release a tape of the plane hitting the pentagon? Or maybe Im misreading your post?

[Seatherny]

I thought that they did release a tape of the plane hitting the pentagon? Or maybe Im misreading your post?

Pretty crap video. You can barely see the plane. Could have easily been edited as you only see the plane for a short time.

[RedStratocas]

Pretty crap video. You can barely see the plane. Could have easily been edited as you only see the plane for a short time.

Well you did say any tape, even if it was a crap tape with a crap frame rate?

[Seatherny]

Well you did say any tape, even if it was a crap tape with a crap frame rate?

True.
Ah well, there were more CCTV's, they must have captured it. You can barely see it in that. Why did the grass look perfect? Why didnt 2 massive engines make a hole?

If someone can find me a sensible answer for those questions, then I will stop believing it was the goverment.

[Sammeth.]

Moving back to the twin towers here, someone earlier posted that explosives were detonated inside the towers that made them collapse. In the following video, you can see that infact the cameraman zooms in on the column corner, which shows the column twisting INWARDS after being weakened by the fire. It twists inwards into the building, meaning explosives couldnt have been in there to detonate it. Here is the video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPUME7lvsLU

[RedStratocas]

True.
Ah well, there were more CCTV's, they must have captured it. You can barely see it in that. Why did the grass look perfect? Why didnt 2 massive engines make a hole?

If someone can find me a sensible answer for those questions, then I will stop believing it was the goverment.

Ill give you that the Pentagon plane crash is a little sketchy (the WTC conspiracy theories hold no water to me though) but there's apparently an entire book on explanations to it all the conspiracy theories. I havent read it [I dont really need to] but it sounds pretty reliable to me.

[Seatherny]

Moving back to the twin towers here, someone earlier posted that explosives were detonated inside the towers that made them collapse. In the following video, you can see that infact the cameraman zooms in on the column corner, which shows the column twisting INWARDS after being weakened by the fire. It twists inwards into the building, meaning explosives couldnt have been in there to detonate it. Here is the video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPUME7lvsLU

If the bomb went off inside, you cant see it on the outside :s :s
He just zooms in where there was fire. The bomb could have broken the support, making the building fall.

WTC - Why were there so many drills and why were the bomb sniffing dogs removed?

[RedStratocas]

WTC - Why were there so many drills and why were the bomb sniffing dogs removed?

Cant say this as a fact, but I wouldnt be surprised if it had to do with the recently renewed insurance. It probably reminded them of the bombing back in '91, and they might have overreacted to an unrelated threat. I dont know enough about it though, there isnt enough information about it.

[Seatherny]

Cant say this as a fact, but I wouldnt be surprised if it had to do with the recently renewed insurance. It probably reminded them of the bombing back in '91, and they might have overreacted to an unrelated threat. I dont know enough about it though, there isnt enough information about it.

I dont understand. How would insurance and bombing of 1991 get them to remove bomb sniffing dogs .. or do you mean the drills?