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    You should be allowed to do anything to yourself, and your stuff, as long as it does not:

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    So if you want to smoke inside your house, where other's can't see the smoke. You can.
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    No as Cigarettes don't make people go off their heads, and Beer is more moderated and safe.

    Lock all druggies up ASAP I say.


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    no they shouldn't.

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    It's too late to introduce drugs legally. If they make them legal, there will be a few years of high drug intakes across youths, because the idea of drugs being legal to the inferior, brain dead Britons *glares at chav extremists* would make them go crazy for a couple of years, then after they're dead, it may die out, if they keep it legal that is "/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace. View Post
    Right sorry but many of your points are invalid -.-

    1- You say marijuana isn't as unhealthy of tobacco but it can contain tobacco and it is addictive in the form that if a smoker is upset they will continue you take it to blot out the "pain". There is different types of addiction.

    2 -Again an invalid point. Yea it is dangerous and yea so is alcohol but it has different effects on different people. If a person already has a slight mental problem that has gone undected for year if they are on marijuana and havent had some for a while then their temper can just "explode". Also yes alcohol itself can kill you but so can marijuana but in a different context, if the user is very depressed it can infact cause the user to kill themselves - whatever that way may be whether it is bringing other people with them. Oh and another point, it doesn't slow you down as in being slow it slows your reactions. The car would be a normal speed, the reactions wouldnt

    3 - You'll find you dont get jailed for having pot on you but you get a warning, if you get caught a second time you would most likely get a suspended sentence. They do this to stop the dealers as the dealers don't just deal marijuana. Oh and so what if the government can make money? They seem to get enough off us any way.

    4 - Marijuana is a gateway drug. Many people use it for years and get used to the "buzz" thus moving onto "heavier" stuff. Also like i've said marijuana does normally contain nicotine which is addictive - making marijuana addictive.

    5 - Nothing good would come out of legalising it either. Its illegal for a reason. I know many police and they say the worst thing the government ever did was downgrade pot.
    1 - It generally isn't as unhealthy as tobacco. Everyone knows tobacco causes cancer, but there isn't any proof that marijuana causes it too. Bob Marley died of cancer because he smoked spliffs; 50% tobacco, 50% weed. As for the rest of what you said on that part I don't understand what you're getting at.

    2 - So you're saying people who drink a lot of alcohol don't "explode" and kill themselves? Alcohol makes a lot of people depressed and sad, more than people who smoke weed do. "If a person already has a slight mental problem that has gone undected for year if they are on marijuana and havent had some for a while then their temper can just "explode"." That really makes no sense at all. I personally have NEVER heard of anybody killing themselves because they haven't had marijuana in a while. Maybe somebody who's into harder drugs, but not pot smokers. You really make it sound like marijuana is the worst thing in the world, but people who have tried it know it's not a huge deal. You feel good, refreshed, and have an open mind for a couple hours or so and you're back to normal. You don't go crazy and kill yourself or other people. Find me a story of someone who killed themselves or someone else because they didn't have weed and I'll believe you. Ask someone you know who smokes pot if they get depressed and sad when they're on it, or want to kill themselves when they don't have any. Having tried pot several times, I know for a fact that pot does not make you suicidal or depressed. Alcohol is a whole other story.

    3 - That actually depends on how nice the cop is. Yeah, you're right, a lot of people get off with a warning. I was actually at a party a couple weeks ago and some girl got in the car we were using and she smoked with me and my friends. She left it in the back of the far and when the cops showed up they searched all the cars and found it. He didn't even say anything about it until me and my friend were about to leave, and he didn't say anything.

    Huh? They give warnings to people who have pot to stop dealers? And just because someone sells pot doesn't mean they sell other drugs. I know of quite a few people who sell pot and none of them sell anything else.

    And the fact that the government could make more money isn't a big deal, just another advantage. Also, what's a "suspended sentence"?

    4 - Are you just coming up with this stuff out of nowhere? Marijuana doesn't contain nicotine unless you mix it with tobacco. Marijuana isn't addictive because you don't get physical symptoms from not having it. If meth addicts don't have meth for a while they go through WITHDRAWAL where their body needs the drug to function normally because they're so used to it. Pot smokers don't go through withdrawal, and their bodies don't need it. I know a lot of people who are able to take months off of smoking pot without much of a problem. Just because they want it doesn't mean they're addicted to it.

    As for the gateway drug thing, yes, some people move onto harder drugs. For the most part, they don't. Just because they get used to weed doesn't mean they automatically move onto heroin. My grandmother has been smoking pot for at least 40 years and still gets the same affect out of it, so unfortunately on that bit, you are wrong. And for the record, she hasn't smoked it in over a year. Yeah she liked to smoke it, but she didn't need it, which is why it was so easy for her to quit. She still smokes cigarettes. They can get used to the high, but this can be easily fixed by moving onto a better type of marijuana. If what you said about that was true, my grandmother would be a crazy crackhead by now.

    5 - Yes, good things could come out of it. Re-read my first post with a more open mind. If it's illegal for a reason, why isn't alcohol illegal for that same reason? It's worse, and yet it's legal. And have those police tried marijuana? I'm sure if they have they would know it's not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. People who fight against it exaggerate the affects of it because they want to make it sound as bad as they possibly can so people won't try it. Not everything you read is the truth.

    P.S. I did actual research on all the things I posted. If I didn't know what I was talking about I wouldn't have even bothered. I'm definitely NOT trying to start an argument, just a debate, but you should really read more about this before you tell me everything I said is wrong. I know what I'm talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
    No as Cigarettes don't make people go off their heads, and Beer is more moderated and safe.

    Lock all druggies up ASAP I say.
    Beer/alcohol isn't more moderated; it takes a lot more alcohol to get drunk than it takes drugs to get high. It's safer than some drugs yes, but not all.
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    Yes.

    If people want to use drugs recreationally, I don't see a problem with it. Of course, there should be limits put on it (ie minimum age, illegal to drive under the influence, etc). If people want to mess around once in a while, there's really nothing wrong with that.

    Also, if drugs were legalized, it would raise a LOT of revenue in taxes for the countries involved, greatly decrease the price of these items to the consumers, and prevent loads of money going to crime lords in other countries.

    Perhaps more fatal drugs such as Heroin, etc. should still be illegal, but personally I don't see anything wrong with legalizing marijuana... It's less harmful to your body than alcohol and cigarettes anyway.

    Oh, & to undertaker- Who cares if people "go off their heads?" They're just having a bit of fun. Cigarettes give you cancer, which as I'm sure you probably know leads to death. And as to you comment about alcohol-- People can die from alcohol poisoning. It happens a lot. People don't die from marijuana OD's. It's a MUCH safer drug. In any case, people who drink alcohol are also "druggies." Alcohol is a drug, is it not?

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    3 - You'll find you dont get jailed for having pot on you but you get a warning, if you get caught a second time you would most likely get a suspended sentence. They do this to stop the dealers as the dealers don't just deal marijuana. Oh and so what if the government can make money? They seem to get enough off us any way.
    Yes, the governments sure make enough money! The fact that, for example, the United States is, at the time of this post, exactly $8,887,397,914,305.63 in debt and losing an additional $1.93 billion per day ( http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ ) means they're quite clearly getting enough money from the people. Taxes from this may not get rid of a large chunk of that, but it is a large amount of possible revenue they're missing out on.

    In short, we live in free countries, we should have the freedom to choose what we want to do. Unless it affects others, you should be able to do to your body whatever you want to do. If you're smoking weed in your house with no one around, is there REALLY a problem with that? Is there REALLY a problem with getting a few friends over & getting stoned? No, it doesn't affect anyone but the people doing it.
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    Im just thinking, if we made drugs leagal, many more people would take them (duh) and many more would die from them, so in retrospect we are killing off the people stupid enough to do drugs, almost like a willing holocaust...

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    I think that Class C drugs such as Cannabis should be made available to sufferers of things like athritis because it's been proven that it helps to ease the pain. However, Class A and B drugs are just way too dangerous to be made legal. It's already quite apparent that those who use them are effectively killing themselves & with the government imposing many rules on cigarettes to combat their effects, it'd be a step back. Not to mention that the majority of those who already use the drugs illegally are the ones causing trouble in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tash. View Post
    I think that Class C drugs such as Cannabis should be made available to sufferers of things like athritis because it's been proven that it helps to ease the pain. However, Class A and B drugs are just way too dangerous to be made legal. It's already quite apparent that those who use them are effectively killing themselves & with the government imposing many rules on cigarettes to combat their effects, it'd be a step back. Not to mention that the majority of those who already use the drugs illegally are the ones causing trouble in this country.
    I 100% agree with your post

    Class C drugs may possibly be made legal, but Class A and B drugs are just far too harmful to legalise.

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    Do you just get bored of thinking of debates? What a stupid topic to debate.

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