9/11 Conspiracies - What do you think happened? - [Closes 13/05/07]

[Mentor]

Well i didnt think anyone would be stupid enough to assume a plain is as tall as one of the world trade centers.

Knowing you, you probably are stupid enough to think they are the same size.

i see, seeing as you already kinda actualy did do that, insulting you further seems unnecessary "/

Does your dad work in a CITGO Petrol station? which all use the same mass brought cctv camras in there petrol stations. which happen to be crap.

That petrol station could have had high quality CCTV.

And Pigs could have the ability to fly. The fact remains they dont.

We invaded Afghanistan? no i never knew that, all this time i thought we were working with afganistian's authority's...

Wth did you say America never attacked Afganistan then. Stop contradicting yourself.

They attacked afganistan but that was way back when, lately they have been working with the Afghan Northern Alliance, to get rid of the taliban.
o.0 at what point did i contradict myself? The Taliban and Afganistan aint the same thing you know?

Doing drills makes bombs strapped to supports invisible now does it?

So you are saying, if I hide something in the worlds tallest building, you can easily find it?
Who says they were strapped to the supports? The bombs could have been near them - and the rooms could be locked.

It depends, what your saying here is could i hide a pin in a hey stack and you be able to find it.
What putting enough explosives in the twin tower to perform a controled demolision is saying is "if i hid 3 eliphants in a barn could you easly find them"

Secondly, if the eplosives arnt directly aimed at the supports there kinda usless short of useing ones powerful enough to level the surrounding city "/

that was bush senior?

What was Bush Senior? Bush Senior was mates with Bin Laden?

No he was friends with bin lardens brother....
like i just said?

Your spealling is awesome for an 18 year old :]. Its easy to hide bombs in such a large building. The bombs could have been detonated remotely or something.

Its easy to hid a pin in a hey stack, its hard to hide a whale. You need alot of bombs you know....
Plus why thank you, although can u just check what spealling actually is?

[Kardan]

The video you are talking about is of the South Tower collapsing. On all videos you see of the South Tower collapsing, you will notice it didnt fall straight down. The top of it, tilted over and toppled slightly, caused by the inward column.

Another thing I dont understand is the famous picture of the woman standing in the hole of WTC1, after the plane struck. How she survived beats me, and the fact she can stand where fire was burning with ease surprises me, as that fire was supposed to be weakening steal structures.

The picture's supposedly a fake.

[Seatherny]

i see, seeing as you already kinda actualy did do that, insulting you further seems unnecessary "/

Idiots on this forum >.>

And Pigs could have the ability to fly. The fact remains they dont.

If you havent seen it then you dont know.

They attacked afganistan but that was way back when, lately they have been working with the Afghan Northern Alliance, to get rid of the taliban.
o.0 at what point did i contradict myself? The Taliban and Afganistan aint the same thing you know?

In your earlier post you said American NEVER attacked Afganistan.

It depends, what your saying here is could i hide a pin in a hey stack and you be able to find it.
What putting enough explosives in the twin tower to perform a controled demolision is saying is "if i hid 3 eliphants in a barn could you easly find them"

They dont need to be attached to the supports - depends on how poerfull the bomb is.

Secondly, if the eplosives arnt directly aimed at the supports there kinda usless short of useing ones powerful enough to level the surrounding city "/


No he was friends with bin lardens brother....
like i just said?

You said Bin Laden was their mate at first >.>
Why don't you just accept you made a mistake instead of trying to cover it up?

Its easy to hid a pin in a hey stack, its hard to hide a whale. You need alot of bombs you know....
Plus why thank you, although can u just check what spealling actually is?

Wow, I made 1 mistake, you make like 100.[/QUOTE]

[Mentor]

i see, seeing as you already kinda actualy did do that, insulting you further seems unnecessary "/

Idiots on this forum >.>

Remove the s and thats exactly what where all thinking.

And Pigs could have the ability to fly. The fact remains they dont.

If you havent seen it then you dont know.

o.0 are you actually trying to argue pigs can fly?

They attacked afganistan but that was way back when, lately they have been working with the Afghan Northern Alliance, to get rid of the taliban.
o.0 at what point did i contradict myself? The Taliban and Afganistan aint the same thing you know?

In your earlier post you said American NEVER attacked Afganistan.

Not post 9/11 no.

It depends, what your saying here is could i hide a pin in a hey stack and you be able to find it.
What putting enough explosives in the twin tower to perform a controled demolision is saying is "if i hid 3 eliphants in a barn could you easly find them"

They dont need to be attached to the supports - depends on how poerfull the bomb is.

A tactical nuke would defeat the point of a controlled demolition, and the large mushroom cloud would probably give away the fact it didn't fall down by itself.... if anyone close enough hadn't already been killed...

No he was friends with bin lardens brother....
like i just said?

You said Bin Laden was their mate at first >.>
Why don't you just accept you made a mistake instead of trying to cover it up?

Thats true, bin larden was "there mate". Osarma bin laden and Salem bin Laden are still two different people though. Osarma was a friend of bush junior, salem was a friend of bush senior?
is it really that hard to understand?

Wow, I made 1 mistake, you make like 100.

Really? you mean somewhere in that misinformation you actually said something true? i must have missed reading that bit.

[Seatherny]

Remove the s and thats exactly what where all thinking.

Ye about a dumb idiot like u.

o.0 are you actually trying to argue pigs can fly?

When i proove you wrong, why do you try and twist things? moron.

Not post 9/11 no.

Once again, I proove you wrong, and you twist things. Its like saying "Bush isnt the president of the america. *gets prooved wrong* ERM I MEAN HE WASNT THE PRESIDENT BEFORE LIKE 2000." Idiot, admit you were prooved wrong.

A tactical nuke would defeat the point of a controlled demolition, and the large mushroom cloud would probably give away the fact it didn't fall down by itself.... if anyone close enough hadn't already been killed...

Again, you get prooved wrong. Where the hell did nukes come from :s A powerfull bomb isnt always a nuke.

Thats true, bin larden was "there mate". Osarma bin laden and Salem bin Laden are still two different people though. Osarma was a friend of bush junior, salem was a friend of bush senior?
is it really that hard to understand?

You said Bin Laden was a mate of Bush in your first post. Then I prooved you wrong, and now you are twisting things again.

Really? you mean somewhere in that misinformation you actually said something true? i must have missed reading that bit.

That desnt even make sense.

[FlyingJesus]

Knowing you, you probably are stupid enough to think they are the same size.

Knowing him, one of the most intelligent members of them forum?

Does your dad work in a CITGO Petrol station? which all use the same mass brought cctv camras in there petrol stations. which happen to be crap.

That petrol station could have had high quality CCTV.

And Pigs could have the ability to fly. The fact remains they dont.

If you havent seen it then you dont know.

But as he mentioned, they didn't. That particular garage use the same CCTV for every outlet.

What was Bush Senior? Bush Senior was mates with Bin Laden?

The Bush family have been friends with the Bin Ladens for decades, yes.

Idiots on this forum >.>

Wait.. he's an idiot because you failed to make a good insult?

You said Bin Laden was their mate at first >.>
Why don't you just accept you made a mistake instead of trying to cover it up?

As above, the Bin Ladens were friends of the Bush family. They still are actually, all apart from Osama who was the "rebel" of the family.

Ye about a dumb idiot like u.

Oh my god... I can't believe you tried using "dumb idiot" as an insult.

Once again, I proove you wrong, and you twist things. Its like saying "Bush isnt the president of the america. *gets prooved wrong* ERM I MEAN HE WASNT THE PRESIDENT BEFORE LIKE 2000." Idiot, admit you were prooved wrong.

This thread is about 9/11, so he's perfectly justified in saying that America didn't invade Afghanistan and mean it as post-9/11. Otherwise it's like someone coming into the thread and trying to make a point about how WWII is linked to 9/11.

[Seatherny]

Knowing him, one of the most intelligent members of them forum?



But as he mentioned, they didn't. That particular garage use the same CCTV for every outlet.

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The Bush family have been friends with the Bin Ladens for decades, yes.



Wait.. he's an idiot because you failed to make a good insult?



As above, the Bin Ladens were friends of the Bush family. They still are actually, all apart from Osama who was the "rebel" of the family.



Oh my god... I can't believe you tried using "dumb idiot" as an insult.



This thread is about 9/11, so he's perfectly justified in saying that America didn't invade Afghanistan and mean it as post-9/11. Otherwise it's like someone coming into the thread and trying to make a point about how WWII is linked to 9/11.

And you just prooved you are stupider than he is.
Most of the management find him annoying.

He said American NEVER atatcked Afganistan. That doesnt mean BEFORE 9-11.

And there wasnt just garage/petrol stations near the pentagon, there were offices too.

[FlyingJesus]

So answering questions makes you stupid now? Just because management find someone annoying, that doesn't make them unintelligent. I find a lot of intelligent people annoying, but I don't go around saying they're stupid just because I don't like them. That's what 12 year olds do.

You're turning this from a good debate (with potential to teach people something) into a petty argument, picking at every little thing about the people debating rather than the actual facts put across.

I never claimed there weren't offices, neither has anyone in this thread. All we've said is that the petrol station videos (which are the ones most talked about) would have been poor quality.

The Afghanistan point (as I said before.. I shouldn't have to repeat myself) is that this is a 9/11 thread. America attacked Afghanistan before 9/11, so therefore the attack has nothing to do with 9/11 and is of no relevance in this thread, so doesn't need to be taken into account.

This whole thread has moved away from any actual debate now, it's just you pathetically trying to defame a skilled debater by talking about his spelling and bringing up events that aren't relevant to the time we are talking about.

Grow up.

[Mentor]

Remove the s and thats exactly what where all thinking.

Ye about a dumb idiot like u.

Good one, how about calling me a "Smelly poo poo face" as well, since that will also help make you look intellgent.

o.0 are you actually trying to argue pigs can fly?

When i proove you wrong, why do you try and twist things? moron.

Im just quoteing what your saying.

Not post 9/11 no.

Once again, I proove you wrong, and you twist things. Its like saying "Bush isnt the president of the america. *gets prooved wrong* ERM I MEAN HE WASNT THE PRESIDENT BEFORE LIKE 2000." Idiot, admit you were prooved wrong.

He was president before 2000? You dont seem to understand more than one person can share the same sirname. George W. Bush (junior) and George H W Bush (senior - his father) are differnt people, like Osama bin laden and Salem bin Laden are differnt people "bush" and "laden" are sirnames...

A tactical nuke would defeat the point of a controlled demolition, and the large mushroom cloud would probably give away the fact it didn't fall down by itself.... if anyone close enough hadn't already been killed...

Again, you get prooved wrong. Where the hell did nukes come from :s A powerfull bomb isnt always a nuke.

Your talking that scale to blow a building down in the style you seem to want? or should we use 100 or so tones of gunpowder as thats much easyer to hide...

Thats true, bin larden was "there mate". Osarma bin laden and Salem bin Laden are still two different people though. Osarma was a friend of bush junior, salem was a friend of bush senior?
is it really that hard to understand?

You said Bin Laden was a mate of Bush in your first post. Then I prooved you wrong, and now you are twisting things again.

How the hell did you prove me wrong, Bin Laden WAS A FRIEND of Bush.
Bin laden refers to both osarma and his brother, and Bush refers to present G W bush, the present one, and his father, former present G H W Bush.

Really? you mean somewhere in that misinformation you actually said something true? i must have missed reading that bit.

That desnt even make sense.

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So far that comment sums up your aurgument pretty well.

And you just prooved you are stupider than he is.
Most of the management find him annoying.

Management of what? Mc Donald's? well sorry i didnt think it was so difficult to understand the request not to have all the crap pasted on top of a burger.

He said American NEVER atatcked Afganistan. That doesnt mean BEFORE 9-11.

America and an american are differnt things, so what you just said there is probably true.

And there wasnt just garage/petrol stations near the pentagon, there were offices too.

Really? You mean it wasnt just a desolate wasteland, wow we never knew that. I take it officers all point there cctv camras at the pentigon, as watching there own property? well what would be the point in that.

[RedStratocas]

Wow, I made 1 mistake, you make like 100.

Two.

Well i didnt think anyone would be stupid enough to assume a plain is as tall as one of the world trade centers.

Plain: clear or distinct to the eye or ear: a plain trail to the river; to stand in plain view.

Plane: Aeronautics: a. an airplane or a hydroplane: to take a plane to Dallas.

Too be honest, I dont care if people make spelling mistakes, and you shouldnt either, because thats not what this debate is about. Youre just taking cheap shots to make up for how bad your points are. Stop being a hypocrite.