Worlds most powerful army? - [Closes 24/06/07]

[BL!NKEY]

This thread on a military forum has some people who probably know more about this stuff than we do.

It is interesting and I read all three pages.

http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6140

[Mentor]

The US has far better technology than China.

But with that said I dont think eaither one of us could overtake the other on their own land

there are two things to think about with powerful military

China make most of the US's technology.

[crans]

China make most of the US's technology.

No, your wrong.

China is only a souce to make it.. "cheap labour"

[BL!NKEY]

China make most of the US's technology.

Well like in terms of our air force (the hi tech stealth bombers) and the other stuff like that in all types of the US military.

China might have a lot of people but They wouldn't be able to come into the US and take us over with population only.

[mmhmm.]

ok... I underlined stuff, in case you just wanted the gist of what I'm saying.

First, this whole thing about friendly fire is highly overrated in this thread. Maybe the United States have had some issues with that, but not enough to hinder it much. Friendly fire isn't a justifiable reason to say the US isnt the most powerful army.

Second, the United States isn't full of idiots. The US tactics aren't as terrible as implied here. I dunno about British tactics, but that isn't enough to make Britain the most powerful army.

Third, people say Britain is powerful for its size, but it couldn't take on someone like China. Ok..? Will your good ratio help if you ever had to go to war against a bigger country, then? We're looking for the most powerful army here, not the best people to power ratio.

Lastly, just look at the world around us. Fear has a major part in any war. Who is most feared in the world will probably give you a good idea on power, simply because that country must have something that makes other countries think it can't handle them. So I'd say:

1.) China/US
-They have the tactics, the size, the power, the fear - just which one has more, I'm not sure)

3.) N Korea
-They have... the fear. They aren't restrained by rules like the US is. They could fight dirty openly because their North Korea and its expected.)

[Mentor]

Well like in terms of our air force (the hi tech stealth bombers) and the other stuff like that in all types of the US military.

China might have a lot of people but They wouldn't be able to come into the US and take us over with population only.

I see China as more of a sleeping giant, if it was forced in to action and its labor force switched to military applications it would very fast make up the difference between it and the US's capability's.
If the US tryed to invade china i really dont think it would have any chance of success.

crans: What difference does that make, they still make it. If they build tanks, even of US design, it aint hard for them to use em thereselfs you know, the same is true of a great deal of other equipment and wepons as well. o.0

First, this whole thing about friendly fire is highly overrated in this thread. Maybe the United States have had some issues with that, but not enough to hinder it much. Friendly fire isn't a justifiable reason to say the US isnt the most powerful army.

When you hear friendly fire, which miltary forces name is ALWAYS attached to it.
The US's army is probably the only army that can go in to a conflict and shoot more of its own people than its enemy does. (The iraq war is an example, although only in the innital conflict/invasion, not the long drawn out overstay)

Second, the United States isn't full of idiots. The US tactics aren't as terrible as implied here. I dunno about British tactics, but that isn't enough to make Britain the most powerful army.

It doesnt make the US's tactics not horribly bad ether.

Third, people say Britain is powerful for its size, but it couldn't take on someone like China. Ok..? Will your good ratio help if you ever had to go to war against a bigger country, then? We're looking for the most powerful army here, not the best people to power ratio.

You need to read the entire posts. People have all said, briatain is powerful for its size, but other military forces are more powerful.
That doesnt change the fact the birtish military is still better trained.

Lastly, just look at the world around us. Fear has a major part in any war. Who is most feared in the world will probably give you a good idea on power, simply because that country must have something that makes other countries think it can't handle them. So I'd say:

Iran must have one of the most powerful military forces in the world then... second only to iraq. Fear aint a good judge.

[DaveTaylor]

Considering Israel designed the american tanks, which then get sent back to them for a cost of course via america, plus alot of the Israel designs end up in the american armed forces i would have to say Israel, they may not look a strong army/country but alot is put into there army something like 45% of GNP is into the army. Everyone from 18-21 goes into the army so your trained to fight if they need you the army covers all the aspects of the securiy guards to air force pilots etc.

[Mentor]

Considering Israel designed the american tanks, which then get sent back to them for a cost of course via america, plus alot of the Israel designs end up in the american armed forces i would have to say Israel, they may not look a strong army/country but alot is put into there army something like 45% of GNP is into the army. Everyone from 18-21 goes into the army so your trained to fight if they need you the army covers all the aspects of the securiy guards to air force pilots etc.

Thats true although israils army dont really have any abilty to project force outside there own geographical aria. Also there militarys only ever been used against much weaker forces never against a equal opponent. they definitely come high up on the scale, but i wouldnt say there top.

[mmhmm.]

When you hear friendly fire, which miltary forces name is ALWAYS attached to it.
The US's army is probably the only army that can go in to a conflict and shoot more of its own people than its enemy does. (The iraq war is an example, although only in the innital conflict/invasion, not the long drawn out overstay)

ok... does that make it fall dramatically in rank are the most powerful army? that's the question.

It doesnt make the US's tactics not horribly bad ether.

are you saying they are? :S

You need to read the entire posts. People have all said, briatain is powerful for its size, but other military forces are more powerful.
That doesnt change the fact the birtish military is still better trained.


Iran must have one of the most powerful military forces in the world then... second only to iraq. Fear aint a good judge.

i have read the entire post, thanks. that still doesn't change the fact that the british military training isn't going to make it most powerful. once again, that's the question.

and people do fear the iranian military..? why do you think people, like bush, are making such a big deal about them having nuclear weapons? but still, iran isn't in the top ten, and its not second to iraq. have you heard the stories about iraq's dysfunctional army at the moment? the one being supported the the US army, who isn't doing a good job at building it i might add.

[DiscoPat]

Just to add, Turkey has a powerfull military force as well, looking back at history backs this up, and again we have a system that when your 18 you do 18 months military training, everyone does different sections like if your studying ot be a doctor then you will go to the medical side of the army and get extra training etc and if a war is broken out everyone gets back to the army to fight.

I believe we are one of the richest in the middle east and on most topics relating to military forces, Turkey is always involved + we have our own designed tanks and weopons as well. Turks also have a thing where we are very sensitive when it comes to things about our country so that pushes us as well.

This is the official site of the Turkish army, its in turkish but obviously u can slide through the images with the arrows, it just shows some of the weopons n stuff if your interested.
http://www.tsk.mil.tr/galeri/pages/10_1.htm