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    Quote Originally Posted by !synergy View Post
    err... no, president wilson wasn't going to enter the war after the attack on the passenger ship. it was when the germans tried to turn mexico against the US. check it, its true.
    Can you soruce that, since woodrow himself blaimed the war on "militarism" and justifed the entery in to the war on that.

    Although i find the boat a more likely reason due to the timeing.

    wrong again buddy. i'm doing well in a.p. world history.
    anywho, the british empire may have still been around, but it wasn't as dominant as it was centuries ago.
    British empire peek: 1921
    Centurie: 100 years
    Date 2007.

    That makes the british empires peek in 1921, 86 years ago.
    86 is less than a 100. Hence its peek was less than ONE century ago, never lown centurys...

    Plus, wow A.p, as much as a i really do cair, your educational status is pretty irrelvent to the debate and i dont belive anyone gives a ****, go boast somewhere else, this is for debates.

    let's try this again. maybe read slower or something. people say that britain taught other countries everything they know. but these other countries have progressed a whole lot on their own since this time, hence the term "better". therefore, this fact can't be used as proof that britain has the most powerful army. k?
    Well you can read slower if you need to, Birtish training is better than that in other countarys, if birtain did teach the other countarys (i dont know weather thats true or not) then they cannot have become BETTER, but instead worse.
    Hence your use of the word better remains incorrect.

    For the rest of the aurgument, stop straw maning, my point was a sepert issue to do with your wording, i made no mention as to the validty of the UK training other nations.



    no again, the reason was japan's attack on pearl harbor. that's why the americans almost single handedly beat japan. most of the US's problem was with japan.
    Thats nice, that explains why they attacked japan. BUT, thats not what i was talking about. Japan had almost NO involment with the main war, none of the other countarys were really involved in that conflict. America could have attacked japan quite easly without invadeing germany also. They orignaly encoraged hitlers dominace as it was putting communism down...

    well, i learned that america supplied allied troops only before they entered the war. i can't picture america selling to germany and japan =/ however, i don't have any proof of which is correct.
    IBM was helping the germans crack british codes, the US, not being involved in the war origanly held a neutral status, hence its industrial sector was selling to whom ever they liked. They also liked a powerful germany as a barrier against communism.

    & we have to remember we were taught in different countries about the wars, therefore we have different aspects on what really happened.
    Well birtain was right in the thick of both of them, and was involved in there entirty... america joined pretty late on in both wars. Although i accept its hard to get a non-bias source, America is obviously going to enphisise its roll and downplay others, as britain equaly is likely to do much the same thing emphisising what it did, and not what other countarys themselves did "/

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01101101entor View Post
    Can you soruce that, since woodrow himself blaimed the war on "militarism" and justifed the entery in to the war on that.

    Although i find the boat a more likely reason due to the timeing.
    I think he was refering to the zimmerman telegram which did have a large impact on USA's decision to enter the war if not the main reason.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram

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    Quote Originally Posted by ---MAD--- View Post
    America seems to be on top of the list but they have lost so many wars so how can this be.


    .... Where in the hell do you get that? Lost how many wars exactly? ONE at the last count I think.

    Wars/rebellions/conflicts in the history of the United States of America;

    46 Won.
    1 Lost.
    2 In progress.

    Here's a list for you...

    The American Revolution
    1775-1783

    The Indian Wars
    1775-1890

    Shay's Rebellion
    1786-1787
    Rebellion
    Anti-(state)Government Rebels vs. Massachusetts

    The Whiskey Rebellion
    1794
    Rebellion
    Anti-Tax Rebels in Western Pennsylvania

    Quasi-War With France
    1798-1800
    Inter-State (Naval) War
    France

    Fries's Rebellion "The Hot Water War"
    1799
    Rebellion
    Anti-Tax Rebels in Pennsylvania

    The Barbary Wars
    1800-1815
    Inter-State War
    The Barbary States
    (Tripoli, Algiers & Morocco)

    The War of 1812
    1812-1815
    Inter-State War
    Great Britain
    The Growing & Troubled Republic
    Primary Name of Conflict Dates of Conflict
    (U.S. Involvement Only)
    Type of Conflict Primary Opponent(s)
    of the United States

    Mexican-American War
    1846-1848
    Inter-State War
    Mexico

    U.S. Slave Rebellions
    1800-1865
    Slave Rebellions
    Various Slave groups

    "Bleeding Kansas"
    1855-1860
    Civil War (state of Kansas)
    Pro-Slavery vs. Anti-Slavery Kansans

    Brown's Raid on Harper's Ferry
    1859
    Rebellion
    Anti-Slavery Rebels (Led by John Brown)

    United States Civil War
    1861-1865
    Civil War
    United States (The North)
    vs.
    The Confederate States (The South)


    U.S. Intervention in Hawaiian Revolution
    1893
    Internal Rebellion & Foreign Intervention

    The Spanish-American War
    1898
    Inter-State War

    U.S. Intervention in Samoan Civil War
    1898-1899
    Civil War & Foreign Intervention

    U.S.-Philippine War
    1899-1902
    Colonial War, War of Imperialism

    Boxer Rebellion
    1900
    Internal Rebellion & Foreign Intervention
    Chinese Government & "Boxer" Rebels

    The Moro Wars
    1901-1913
    Colonial Wars
    Philippine Muslim Rebels

    U.S. Intervention in Panamanian Revolution
    1903
    Secessionist Revolution & Foreign Intervention
    Colombia

    The Banana Wars
    1909-1933
    Civil Wars & Foreign Intervention
    Various Rebel Groups In Central America


    U.S. Occupation of Vera Cruz
    1914
    Inter-State War
    Mexico

    Pershing's Raid Into Mexico
    1916-1917
    Inter-State, Border War
    Mexican Government & Mexican Rebels ("Bandits")

    World War I
    1917-1918 (American involvement only)
    Inter-State War
    Germany

    Allied Intervention in Russian Civil War
    1919-1921
    Civil War & Foreign Intervention
    Russian Bolshevik (Soviet) Government

    World War II
    1941-1945 (American involvement only)
    Inter-State War
    Germany, Japan & Italy

    The Cold War
    1945-1991
    Global Inter-State Cold War
    The Soviet Union & Communist China

    The Korean War
    1950-1953
    Inter-State War
    North Korea & China

    The Second Indochina War "Vietnam War"
    1956-1975
    Civil War, Inter-State War
    North Vietnam & South Vietnamese "Viet Cong" Rebels

    U.S. Intervention in Lebanon
    1958
    Civil War & Foreign Intervention
    No real foe for U.S. Troops landed to support Lebanon Gov.

    Dominican Intervention
    1965
    Civil War & Foreign Intervention
    Rebels in the Dominican Republic

    The Mayaguez Rescue Operation
    News Story 1975 (May 15)
    Hostage Rescue & Inter-State Conflict
    Khmer Rouge Guerrillas (the new government of Cambodia)

    Iranian Hostage Rescue "Desert One" or "Operation Eagle Claw"
    1980 (April 25)
    Hostage Rescue & Inter-State Conflict
    Iran

    U.S. Libya Conflict
    1981, 1986
    Inter-State War
    Libya

    U.S. Intervention in Lebanon
    1982-1984
    Civil War,Foreign Intervention & Inter-State War
    Syria & Various Muslim and Leftist Lebanese Militias

    U.S. Invasion of Grenada
    1983
    Inter-State War
    Marxist Grenadian Faction & Cuba

    The Tanker War
    "Operation Earnest Will"
    1987-1988
    Inter-State War
    Iran

    U.S. Invasion of Panama
    1989
    Inter-State War
    Panama

    Second Persian Gulf War "Operation Desert Storm"
    1991
    Inter-State War
    Iraq

    "No-Fly Zone" War
    1991-2003
    Inter-State War
    Iraq

    U.S. Intervention in Somalia
    1992-1994
    Civil War & Foreign Intervention
    Various Somali Militias

    NATO Intervention in Bosnia (Operation Deliberate Force) Summary
    1994-1995
    Civil War,Foreign Intervention & Inter-State War
    Bosnian Serb Rebels

    U.S. Occupation of Haiti
    1994
    Foreign Intervention
    Haitian Government

    U.S. Embassy bombings and strikes on Afghanistan and Sudan (The bin Laden War)
    August, 1998
    Terrorist Conflict

    "Desert Fox" Campaign (part of U.S./Iraq Conflict)
    December, 1998
    Inter-State War
    Iraq

    Kosovo War
    1999
    Civil War, Foreign Intervention & Inter-State War
    Yugoslavia/Serbia

    Attack on the USS Cole
    October 12, 2000
    Terrorist Conflict
    Terrorists associated with Osama bin Laden

    Attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon
    September 11, 2001
    Terrorist Conflict
    Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida organization

    Afghanistan War (Operation Enduring Freedom)
    October 7, 2001-Present
    War against Terrorism
    The Taliban and Osama bin Laden's Al-Qaida organization

    Third Persian Gulf War "Operation Iraqi Freedom"
    March 19, 2003-Present
    Inter-State War
    Iraq
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    In all honesty theres no way to say which is the best without a war between all of them. I am in NO way suggesting there should be but it's the only real way to decide. I would say that america has the biggest ready-to-use army.

    China

    I would say china is actually one of the least powerful it has a massive army but as the old saying goes "An Army Marches On It's Stomach" and statistics suggest that china would have problems recoursing enough food to feed it's armie during a war due to the fact that nobody would import to them and there normal food reserves are simply not high enough. [Hope that made a little bit of sense]

    Britain

    is probably top on tactics and the powerfulist army for it's side.
    See now I would say we have the most powerful navy too but our controlling the seas has gone to pot as year after year they reduce our navy. I'm paticuarly destressed about this as I live near portsmouth and the HUGE naval base there is under threat of closing. Which means lots less money from tourism . Britain has won Most (By no means all) wars using the huge amount of allies we have. With america and most of western europe backing us up you can't really lose a war can you now?
    I would also say we are the most technologically advanced army out there. We seem to have better rifles planes and all sorts of doohickys and gadgets to help the men on the battlefield.

    N. Korea

    Nobody actually knows the proper might of this army it's fought a few times but not recently so we don't know how the army has developed. I'm sure we all see the amazing dancing display things on BBC News occasionaly but theres no real evidence to how effective or strong they are in battle.

    Russia

    Not much of an army at all you might say? I reckon this could be the worlds next super power pretty soon. It has a population to rival China and America (Not together) and although it's hasn't been in a full on war in modern times the whole country is becoming much better developed economically and military. Theres no evidence but this could be the worlds strongest army.

    Middle East

    These guys put up a fight but theres no real "Material Army" more just small groups of rebels with guns. Sure they put up a fight when we invaded Iraq but it didn't exactly last long did it. Definately Not a threat. (As In able to start invading countries NOT surrounding it, such as America.)

    America

    In my opinion the current winners. The army is big well trained and extremely powerful. I would definately call U.S.A The current world Super Power. As it is probably the second most advanced army as well having huge man power and well trained men! So all hail America and what not.. I suppose (For now!)
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    1) USA - no one can come close to the lone superpower of the world. and to top it off, the United States of America spent over $500 billion last year on their military alone. The USA has dominated the seas for over 60 years and if you can control the seas, you can control other countries economies with blockades and so forth. Obviously militaries don't get more experience, technologically advanced, and powerful than the mighty United States of America.

    2) China - They have the world's 2nd largest gold reserves in the world. The ability to mobilize millions of men combined with the ability to reverse engineer allows China to stay a major threat in the world despite their isolationist leaders. China's economy is booming and they deserve this ranking over Russia which is on the opposite spectrum of China when it comes to economies. Their man power can't be matched. China has a closer relationship with the former USSR and Russia does have incredible knowledge when it comes to missle guidance systems.

    3) Russia - Even though they are incredibly corrupt and have an economy that has seen better days, Russia's technology is top notch. They have an amazing amount of tanks, artillery, and machinery (can't be matched anywhere in the world) that can quickly be mobolized for a strong defensive force. Russia has an abundance of scientists and are the world's leader in weather modification. Overall, Russia lacks the professionalism needed to net a top 2 ranking.

    4) UK - Cutting edge technology and a very close relationship with the United States tips the scales in favour of the UK when it comes to most militaries around the world. The UK's military tradition, resources, and professionalism are amongst the best in the world. The UK also has the best special forces in the world.

    5) France - They have an abundance of technology and wealth both since the great war ended, they haven't spent serious money on their military like many other countries have. France does have ample indigenous technology.

    6) Israel - Probably the best defensive force in the world. Israel has great special forces and a very nice ally in the United States which allows them to benefit by gaining technology as well as resources needed to wage war. Some of the best pilots in the world are from Israel.

    7) Germany - Great technology, but they rank so low because since Hitler they have not made their military priority #1. However, given time they could amass an incredible military force. They have the economy needed to go hand and hand with a successful military. The military tradition is certainly there.

    8) India - Man Power, economy, this rising power has it all. They are well balance in all areas including the Navy, which is rare in the day and age of anti-ship missiles. The only reason the Indians are so far down the list is because they are corrupted and lack OIL.

    9) Turkey - One of the most powerful countries in their region, the Turks are very experienced fighting off Kurdish rebels and they have a very strong military tradition. Turkey, like Israel, would be one of the toughest countries in the world to invade due to their defensive capabilities. The country of Turkey has legendary leadership.

    10) Pakistan - Pakistan has a large army as well as a booming economy. However, their lack of cutting edge technology coupled with the fact their Navy is medicore at best drops them to #10. However, they too are a fast riser.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyK. View Post
    .... Where in the hell do you get that? Lost how many wars exactly? ONE at the last count I think.

    Wars/rebellions/conflicts in the history of the United States of America;

    46 Won.
    1 Lost.
    2 In progress.

    Here's a list for you...

    The American Revolution
    1775-1783

    The Indian Wars
    1775-1890

    Shay's Rebellion
    1786-1787
    Rebellion
    Anti-(state)Government Rebels vs. Massachusetts

    The Whiskey Rebellion
    1794
    Rebellion
    Anti-Tax Rebels in Western Pennsylvania

    Quasi-War With France
    1798-1800
    Inter-State (Naval) War
    France

    Fries's Rebellion "The Hot Water War"
    1799
    Rebellion
    Anti-Tax Rebels in Pennsylvania

    The Barbary Wars
    1800-1815
    Inter-State War
    The Barbary States
    (Tripoli, Algiers & Morocco)

    The War of 1812
    1812-1815
    Inter-State War
    Great Britain
    The Growing & Troubled Republic
    Primary Name of Conflict Dates of Conflict
    (U.S. Involvement Only)
    Type of Conflict Primary Opponent(s)
    of the United States

    Mexican-American War
    1846-1848
    Inter-State War
    Mexico

    U.S. Slave Rebellions
    1800-1865
    Slave Rebellions
    Various Slave groups

    "Bleeding Kansas"
    1855-1860
    Civil War (state of Kansas)
    Pro-Slavery vs. Anti-Slavery Kansans

    Brown's Raid on Harper's Ferry
    1859
    Rebellion
    Anti-Slavery Rebels (Led by John Brown)

    United States Civil War
    1861-1865
    Civil War
    United States (The North)
    vs.
    The Confederate States (The South)


    U.S. Intervention in Hawaiian Revolution
    1893
    Internal Rebellion & Foreign Intervention

    The Spanish-American War
    1898
    Inter-State War

    U.S. Intervention in Samoan Civil War
    1898-1899
    Civil War & Foreign Intervention

    U.S.-Philippine War
    1899-1902
    Colonial War, War of Imperialism

    Boxer Rebellion
    1900
    Internal Rebellion & Foreign Intervention
    Chinese Government & "Boxer" Rebels

    The Moro Wars
    1901-1913
    Colonial Wars
    Philippine Muslim Rebels

    U.S. Intervention in Panamanian Revolution
    1903
    Secessionist Revolution & Foreign Intervention
    Colombia

    The Banana Wars
    1909-1933
    Civil Wars & Foreign Intervention
    Various Rebel Groups In Central America


    U.S. Occupation of Vera Cruz
    1914
    Inter-State War
    Mexico

    Pershing's Raid Into Mexico
    1916-1917
    Inter-State, Border War
    Mexican Government & Mexican Rebels ("Bandits")

    World War I
    1917-1918 (American involvement only)
    Inter-State War
    Germany

    Allied Intervention in Russian Civil War
    1919-1921
    Civil War & Foreign Intervention
    Russian Bolshevik (Soviet) Government

    World War II
    1941-1945 (American involvement only)
    Inter-State War
    Germany, Japan & Italy

    The Cold War
    1945-1991
    Global Inter-State Cold War
    The Soviet Union & Communist China

    The Korean War
    1950-1953
    Inter-State War
    North Korea & China

    The Second Indochina War "Vietnam War"
    1956-1975
    Civil War, Inter-State War
    North Vietnam & South Vietnamese "Viet Cong" Rebels

    U.S. Intervention in Lebanon
    1958
    Civil War & Foreign Intervention
    No real foe for U.S. Troops landed to support Lebanon Gov.

    Dominican Intervention
    1965
    Civil War & Foreign Intervention
    Rebels in the Dominican Republic

    The Mayaguez Rescue Operation
    News Story 1975 (May 15)
    Hostage Rescue & Inter-State Conflict
    Khmer Rouge Guerrillas (the new government of Cambodia)

    Iranian Hostage Rescue "Desert One" or "Operation Eagle Claw"
    1980 (April 25)
    Hostage Rescue & Inter-State Conflict
    Iran

    U.S. Libya Conflict
    1981, 1986
    Inter-State War
    Libya

    U.S. Intervention in Lebanon
    1982-1984
    Civil War,Foreign Intervention & Inter-State War
    Syria & Various Muslim and Leftist Lebanese Militias

    U.S. Invasion of Grenada
    1983
    Inter-State War
    Marxist Grenadian Faction & Cuba

    The Tanker War
    "Operation Earnest Will"
    1987-1988
    Inter-State War
    Iran

    U.S. Invasion of Panama
    1989
    Inter-State War
    Panama

    Second Persian Gulf War "Operation Desert Storm"
    1991
    Inter-State War
    Iraq

    "No-Fly Zone" War
    1991-2003
    Inter-State War
    Iraq

    U.S. Intervention in Somalia
    1992-1994
    Civil War & Foreign Intervention
    Various Somali Militias

    NATO Intervention in Bosnia (Operation Deliberate Force) Summary
    1994-1995
    Civil War,Foreign Intervention & Inter-State War
    Bosnian Serb Rebels

    U.S. Occupation of Haiti
    1994
    Foreign Intervention
    Haitian Government

    U.S. Embassy bombings and strikes on Afghanistan and Sudan (The bin Laden War)
    August, 1998
    Terrorist Conflict

    "Desert Fox" Campaign (part of U.S./Iraq Conflict)
    December, 1998
    Inter-State War
    Iraq

    Kosovo War
    1999
    Civil War, Foreign Intervention & Inter-State War
    Yugoslavia/Serbia

    Attack on the USS Cole
    October 12, 2000
    Terrorist Conflict
    Terrorists associated with Osama bin Laden

    Attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon
    September 11, 2001
    Terrorist Conflict
    Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida organization

    Afghanistan War (Operation Enduring Freedom)
    October 7, 2001-Present
    War against Terrorism
    The Taliban and Osama bin Laden's Al-Qaida organization

    Third Persian Gulf War "Operation Iraqi Freedom"
    March 19, 2003-Present
    Inter-State War
    Iraq
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    The US is the most powerful militarily, with the most advanced warfare technology in the world, closely followed by China.
    Sorry but the british record betters that.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoPat View Post
    1) USA - no one can come close to the lone superpower of the world. and to top it off, the United States of America spent over $500 billion last year on their military alone. The USA has dominated the seas for over 60 years and if you can control the seas, you can control other countries economies with blockades and so forth. Obviously militaries don't get more experience, technologically advanced, and powerful than the mighty United States of America.

    2) China - They have the world's 2nd largest gold reserves in the world. The ability to mobilize millions of men combined with the ability to reverse engineer allows China to stay a major threat in the world despite their isolationist leaders. China's economy is booming and they deserve this ranking over Russia which is on the opposite spectrum of China when it comes to economies. Their man power can't be matched. China has a closer relationship with the former USSR and Russia does have incredible knowledge when it comes to missle guidance systems.

    3) Russia - Even though they are incredibly corrupt and have an economy that has seen better days, Russia's technology is top notch. They have an amazing amount of tanks, artillery, and machinery (can't be matched anywhere in the world) that can quickly be mobolized for a strong defensive force. Russia has an abundance of scientists and are the world's leader in weather modification. Overall, Russia lacks the professionalism needed to net a top 2 ranking.

    4) UK - Cutting edge technology and a very close relationship with the United States tips the scales in favour of the UK when it comes to most militaries around the world. The UK's military tradition, resources, and professionalism are amongst the best in the world. The UK also has the best special forces in the world.

    5) France - They have an abundance of technology and wealth both since the great war ended, they haven't spent serious money on their military like many other countries have. France does have ample indigenous technology.


    Where the hell did u get that from? The french army is'nt as good enough to make it too fith, only there navy is good nothign else, The russian army is soo old that it could be the pope. And China has nothing but personel. The british should be 2nd then the Chinese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HabboIsKrouts View Post
    Sorry but the british record betters that.



    Where the hell did u get that from? The french army is'nt as good enough to make it too fith, only there navy is good nothign else, The russian army is soo old that it could be the pope. And China has nothing but personel. The british should be 2nd then the Chinese.
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    Err.. France isnt as weak as you think and you honestly think UK will beat china? lol


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