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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    Meh, Blair stank as PM. Lies, deceipt and in a way, he was a coward. Seeking advice and help from the French President and the US President.

    NHS is worse now. It has poor funding, regardless of how many jobs opened. That may of been the problem. Poor funding has led to MRSA and the other many super bugs that cause major problems to patients, namely blindness and to some, death. It an unorganised chaos. It was good for the first couple of years, then the rest just went terribly down hill "/

    Taxes obviously are around no matter what PM or party, but they've gotten really bad. Britain has died.
    I agreed with it all the way up to the last line. Britain hasn't died. I think that's just a tad melodramatic.

    Britains old ways probably have died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    I don't support David Cameron at all.

    Also just stop with the trash about Middle Class people being treated badly under the Torys - It's just no true at all.

    Labour has seen our country have overflowing prisons, worsening education, worsening NHS and basically everything has gone to the dogs.

    Also I couldn't give one about the foxes, what is worse really?

    Illegal War - Many Dead
    Fox Hunting being legal

    Which is worse?

    Well obvs Iraq was wrong, yes, that was Tony Blairs weakest point. And I never said you supported David Cammeron, I just said that if he came into power, then you really would be moaning about taxes, as there tax rates are apaulingly high.

    Middle Class people are being treated unfairly by the Conservitves, just look at their tuition fees, as I have already said.

    Who's fault is it we have overflowing prisons? The criminals who commit the crimes. Almost every country in the world has this problem.

    As for education...what the hell are you taking about!! Improved education is one of Blairs finest moments. Schools are getting advanced technology, more teachers and healthy eating options, mainly down to the Labour party

    NHS, yes, there is problems there, but there has been from the 1950's, so its going to take a big job to get it right, no matter WHO is in charge.
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    What does the queen do?

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    Lol and heres another idiot on the way
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    this country is going down hill bad

    The queen does nothing, she stays out of everything because she doenst like to get involved. its stupid, i think she should get involved in peace talks but she doesnt.

    its all up to Gorden, which i spec he will be as bad as tony
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    Quote Originally Posted by doctorblind. View Post
    What does the queen do?
    She's the head of state.

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    The Queen is pretty useless. Infact, the whole royal family is now. Prince Harry should of gone to Iraq, I don't see why not? Louds of past royals have "/ Prince Charles wanders around alot, maybe when he is King he would get involved alot?

    Britain has died. All this political correctness rubbish has destroyed alot of traditions and on the same line as traditions, the government is of the opinion Christian symbols are offensive to other religions. Loads of Muslims really don't give a crap and at Christmas loads agreed that Christian/Christmas traditions gave out good messages, which their religion doesn't really do. Old Britain has died, new Britain is a sniveling coward sitting in the corner not solving anything and being laughed at.
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    Better than a presidential state. Like if Tony Blair was president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    The Queen is pretty useless. Infact, the whole royal family is now. Prince Harry should of gone to Iraq, I don't see why not? Louds of past royals have "/ Prince Charles wanders around alot, maybe when he is King he would get involved alot?

    Britain has died. All this political correctness rubbish has destroyed alot of traditions and on the same line as traditions, the government is of the opinion Christian symbols are offensive to other religions. Loads of Muslims really don't give a crap and at Christmas loads agreed that Christian/Christmas traditions gave out good messages, which their religion doesn't really do. Old Britain has died, new Britain is a sniveling coward sitting in the corner not solving anything and being laughed at.
    Harry couldn't go to Iraq (despite actually wanting to) because it would have been a huge risk to the people around him, and also because like it or not, the death of a royal family member means more to the country as a whole than the death of a normal soldier.

    Also you can't say the royal family is useless and then say complain that Britain's died. If you want "old Britain" as you put it, you should be in support of the royal family, as they are one of the last iconic British things left to celebrate. I for one regard the royal family, and the monarch in particular, highly - because I like a good bit of heritage and tradition. Also, despite how she appears to do nothing, the technical powers of a monarch are pretty immense should they choose to use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightrose View Post
    The queen does nothing, she stays out of everything because she doenst like to get involved. its stupid, i think she should get involved in peace talks but she doesnt.
    Declaring war and making peace is done by the government on behalf of the Queen. She owns the military forces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo13. View Post
    Well obvs Iraq was wrong, yes, that was Tony Blairs weakest point. And I never said you supported David Cammeron, I just said that if he came into power, then you really would be moaning about taxes, as there tax rates are apaulingly high.

    Middle Class people are being treated unfairly by the Conservitves, just look at their tuition fees, as I have already said.

    Who's fault is it we have overflowing prisons? The criminals who commit the crimes. Almost every country in the world has this problem.

    As for education...what the hell are you taking about!! Improved education is one of Blairs finest moments. Schools are getting advanced technology, more teachers and healthy eating options, mainly down to the Labour party

    NHS, yes, there is problems there, but there has been from the 1950's, so its going to take a big job to get it right, no matter WHO is in charge.
    Actually I don't believe David Cameron has actually set out what his taxes would be, so that statement has no subtance that you just made.

    Also people are worse off under this Labour Government, so this whole 'Conservatives are evilz' arguement is complete nonsence.

    Tony Blair was told in 1997 that Prisons were going to overflow, what did he do? - Nothing!

    People with brains would build more prisons, but the Labour Party just sat by and let it overflow so now we have people being released early which is just great.

    Education, Tests have got considerably easier over the Labour Years, this is due to them being made easier.

    So Blair can boast that it's got better but it hasn't, it's also got easier for people who aren't clever to get very good grades, that means the people who are really clever can't get jobs because they have the same qualications as the people who aren't as clever as them, is that fair?, so much for EDUCATION, EDUCATION, EDUCATION..

    The NHS is a big problem, but it seems to have gotten worse under Blair and Brown, they think the way to solve it is throwing money at the NHS and closing down certain Hospitals, if you watched that NHS program on BBC a few months ago then you would see NHS Management needs to be sorted out.

    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    The Queen is pretty useless. Infact, the whole royal family is now. Prince Harry should of gone to Iraq, I don't see why not? Louds of past royals have "/ Prince Charles wanders around alot, maybe when he is King he would get involved alot?

    Britain has died. All this political correctness rubbish has destroyed alot of traditions and on the same line as traditions, the government is of the opinion Christian symbols are offensive to other religions. Loads of Muslims really don't give a crap and at Christmas loads agreed that Christian/Christmas traditions gave out good messages, which their religion doesn't really do. Old Britain has died, new Britain is a sniveling coward sitting in the corner not solving anything and being laughed at.
    Yet again, your 100% right

    Quote Originally Posted by Virgin Mary View Post
    Declaring war and making peace is done by the government on behalf of the Queen. She owns the military forces.
    She doesn't really 'own' them, she can't command them to go to war, that's up to the PM and his Party and the House Of Commons/Lords.


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