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    Cut taxes.


    That depends, if you cut taxes then what expenses would be gone?
    None would be gone, we'd leave EU and we'd save billions.
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    Bring back capital punishment.

    Disagreed. This would be a mess.
    Why would it?, Our justice system right now is a mess with murders getting so called 'life' and serving only 2 years of it.
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    Bring back corporal punishment.

    No, this is certainly not how to solve problems.
    Yes it is, look at behaviour now compared to years ago, it's PROVEN that it's a deterrant against bad behaviour.
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    Invade Zimbabwe and remove Robert Mugarbe who has killed may thousands of people for no reason.


    Robert Mugabe. No R. And if you did that you would probably help people, but your reputation would take a hit.
    Actually I think an invasion of Zimbarbwe would be supported by a fair number of people, I would also consider colonising it again, or run a joint coliation with the opposition there so peace and western civilised ways can spread.
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    Remove Scotland from the United Kingdom, or remove their parliament or remove their MP's from our parliament.

    I'm from Canada so I don't know what Scotland's done?
    Scotland take billions pounds from Englands taxes every year, they get extra services and their MP's get to vote on our policies but we don't get a vote on theirs.
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    Build a new Generation of Nuclear Power Plants so we won't rely on Russia in the future for our gas and oil.

    Well lowering taxes wont help you get this done?
    Leave EU = Extra Billions
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    Leave the EU.

    If they cost you money than ok..
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    Make gay and lesbian adoption illegal, I do not think children would live normal lives otherwise and it's not fair on them to be bullied.

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    As you can see, i'm right wing, what would you do if you got into power?


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
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    Remove Scotland from the United Kingdom, or remove their parliament or remove their MP's from our parliament.

    I'm from Canada so I don't know what Scotland's done?
    Scotland take billions pounds from Englands taxes every year, they get extra services and their MP's get to vote on our policies but we don't get a vote on theirs.
    That doesn't mean it'd be a good idea to boot them out of the UK...
    Why not just change the way those parts work so that it's no longer unfair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concentric2 View Post
    That doesn't mean it'd be a good idea to boot them out of the UK...
    Why not just change the way those parts work so that it's no longer unfair?
    They seem to hate us so much, anyway I don't see them complaining so let's boot them out.


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    I strongly disagree with leaving the EU. OK, so I dont think we should follow suit with the Euro, but I think the EU is good for us.

    EU is are main source of trade. With the EU we can trade with many countries in a more efficent way and cheap. OK, so we don't HAVE to trade with EU, but say if we traded with USA, it would cost us more on a whole. We are also totally over looking things such as the European Courts of Justice. Without them, we would get many unfair decisions in the British Courts. As you may or may not know, the ECJ represents many countries and cultures, so people appealing at the ECJ get a much fairer case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo13. View Post
    I strongly disagree with leaving the EU. OK, so I dont think we should follow suit with the Euro, but I think the EU is good for us.

    EU is are main source of trade. With the EU we can trade with many countries in a more efficent way and cheap. OK, so we don't HAVE to trade with EU, but say if we traded with USA, it would cost us more on a whole. We are also totally over looking things such as the European Courts of Justice. Without them, we would get many unfair decisions in the British Courts. As you may or may not know, the ECJ represents many countries and cultures, so people appealing at the ECJ get a much fairer case.
    For the trade reason I disagreed with Dan, saying that instead of leaving we should simply attempt to put ourselves back in the position that we entered it as - just as a trading state. ECJ isn't a good thing in my opinion, as it overrules British law and basically means we can't dictate our own legal system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    For the trade reason I disagreed with Dan, saying that instead of leaving we should simply attempt to put ourselves back in the position that we entered it as - just as a trading state. ECJ isn't a good thing in my opinion, as it overrules British law and basically means we can't dictate our own legal system.
    We can have our own legal system. The ECJ is used when there isnt a specific law set. For example, a women wanted to use the stored eggs that had been fertilised by her ex. She wanted to use them, but he didnt. Because there wasn't any specific law, it had to go all the way up to the ECJ so it could be sorted out. I think its a good thing as it represents lots of other cultures, not just Britain.

    I think many people in this thread want Britain to cut many of its ties and we should fend for ourselves. This wouldnt work. What you have to remember is Britain is a little remote island. We need the rest of the world, including EU and USA.
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    i say we should stay in the eu.

    ummm.. what i would change..
    lol Im not sure.. But i would revise most the rules and try and make them better, for everyone.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo13. View Post
    I strongly disagree with leaving the EU. OK, so I dont think we should follow suit with the Euro, but I think the EU is good for us.

    EU is are main source of trade. With the EU we can trade with many countries in a more efficent way and cheap. OK, so we don't HAVE to trade with EU, but say if we traded with USA, it would cost us more on a whole. We are also totally over looking things such as the European Courts of Justice. Without them, we would get many unfair decisions in the British Courts. As you may or may not know, the ECJ represents many countries and cultures, so people appealing at the ECJ get a much fairer case.
    I don't think you get this, how can it be cheap when we pay billions into it and hardly get anything back, WE CAN STILL TRADE WITHOUT THE EU, so what are you saying, that america doesn't trade with France because they aren't in this silly club?

    The european faceless pen pushers will implement even more stupid regulations and laws when we sign up again.

    Who gives a DAMN if it represents muslims, islam, china or whatever other cultures, we're getting ripped off by it and it's NO GOOD for us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi View Post
    i say we should stay in the eu.

    ummm.. what i would change..
    lol Im not sure.. But i would revise most the rules and try and make them better, for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    I don't think you get this,
    And tbh Taker, I dont think you understand politics full stop. We put money into the EU to help much needier countries, and Im guessing the Goverment sleeps much easier at night because of this. The billions we pay go to good causes. Even if we wernt part of EU, we would be paying billions non the less to USA who is probably the worlds biggest loan shark!

    Also, Im not saying we cant trade with other countries, but if your part of the EU, the trading between EU countries is cheaper and more efficent. This is common knowlage! Again, I think your political knowlage is lacking in this area.

    Oh, and if your suggesting the ECJ CREATES laws, then LOL at you. Judges only make laws when there is no previous legislation, and/or the law needs to be interpritated. It is the British Government who make BRITISH LAWS.

    I think most of your views dont have place in modern Britain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo13. View Post
    And tbh Taker, I dont think you understand politics full stop. We put money into the EU to help much needier countries, and Im guessing the Goverment sleeps much easier at night because of this. The billions we pay go to good causes. Even if we wernt part of EU, we would be paying billions non the less to USA who is probably the worlds biggest loan shark!

    Also, Im not saying we cant trade with other countries, but if your part of the EU, the trading between EU countries is cheaper and more efficent. This is common knowlage! Again, I think your political knowlage is lacking in this area.

    Oh, and if your suggesting the ECJ CREATES laws, then LOL at you. Judges only make laws when there is no previous legislation, and/or the law needs to be interpritated. It is the British Government who make BRITISH LAWS.

    I think most of your views dont have place in modern Britain.
    So Spain is needy?, and if we put in money to help needy countrys why do we pay much more than other countrys? LETS SORT OUT OUR OWN COUNTRY FIRST, eh?

    The EU does create laws, like it will have power over our justice system if Brown signs the new treaty and will not allow us to have Life sentences because they are 'too harsh'

    I think your a very confused Liberal who thinks we should throw away Taxpayers money away without them agreeing.

    Who gives the government permission to give Billions away without us agreeing even though it's OUR money, you say my views have no place in modern Britain - well no bleeding wonder it's going to the dogs.


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