9/11

[Icarus]

Some conspiracy theorists who question the common account of United Airlines Flight 93 crashing as a result of an attempted cockpit invasion, have speculated that it was shot down by US fighter jets.his idea was promoted by author David Ray Griffin in his book The New Pearl Harbor, who cited Paul Thompson. Thompson and other conspiracy theorists note that debris from Flight 93 was found 3 miles from the crash site and suggest that this may be evidence of a shoot-down.There are also some eyewitness reports of debris falling from the sky like confetti.

Duh! It was diving down vertically a few seconds before impact suprisingly 757's/747's are not designed to be dived completely vertical into the ground so it's very likely that the tail wings and other parts were ripped of the plane causing this "Confetti" you talk about...


Also what are you on about with this Bin ladens family crap? Post some evidence of the fact they were flown out of the country...

[HotelUser]

How can people believe something this wrong out of a government like the USA has? The United States Government does not just go around nocking down buildings here and there. No, wrong, they don't!

You might aswell burn your nations flag if you think this is how governments such as the states act. Some places governments may do something like this but the United States is certainly not one of them.

The States government does not do things like this.

They can not just kill innocent people. They can't; they didn't; they wont.

It shocks the life out of me, that some people still believe in this. You have to have a little faith in people and governments!

There are many countries in the world too that would wonder about this, Canada, England, Scottland, France, Russia, China, Poland, Switzerland, Germany and so on and so on. Don't you think if they even thought it was the USA that did this for a second, they wouldn't look into it or something?? And don't say they don't want to argue with the USA because if they did do this, there would be atleast 5 countries around that would wonder about it. And if those 5 countries investigated it they could do something. Yet they didn't because it is not true that the USA did it.

I have mixed opinions on this.

But isnt it strange that the month leading up to the attacks they had 3 or 4x more test evacuations/drills.

Could be coincidence i guess?!

Another thing that is strange that as soon as the attacks happened all the Bin ladens family living in US took the only plane to leave US soil away.This was organised by the government/FBI
Surely the FBI would want to talk to family members and interroaget them?

ALSO:
There was also an unusual amount of trading in airline and insurance stocks in the days before September 11 and conspiracy theorists suggest that these can be best explained as the actions of people with foreknowledge of the attacks.


The collapse of the World Trade Center was a surprise to many structural engineers No steel-framed skyscraper had ever before or since collapsed due to fire or other local damage, yet it occurred three times on September 11, 2001.

Suspicions were additionally fueled by a lack of video footage of the impact of the jetliner, since many assume that the Pentagon must be subject to intense camera surveillance for security reasons. In addition to the Pentagon's own security cameras, these people also noted that security camera footage from a nearby Citgo gas station, a local Double Tree Hotel and from the Virginia Department of Transportation was swiftly confiscated by the US government

Some conspiracy theorists who question the common account of United Airlines Flight 93 crashing as a result of an attempted cockpit invasion, have speculated that it was shot down by US fighter jets.his idea was promoted by author David Ray Griffin in his book The New Pearl Harbor, who cited Paul Thompson. Thompson and other conspiracy theorists note that debris from Flight 93 was found 3 miles from the crash site and suggest that this may be evidence of a shoot-down.There are also some eyewitness reports of debris falling from the sky like confetti.

Theres the things that are weird but with any big story there is sure to be conspiracy. Im on neither side of the argument but just putting a few "spanners" in the works

The government did not do this. Of course they don't want people seeing the pentagon get hit. embarrassment.

[BlueEyedSarah]

This whole 9/11 debates make me do this :eusa_wall.

[piddle2k6]

AS i said im neither side. Just throwing in some ideas.
anyway this from wikipedia

The New York Times reported that members of the bin Laden family were driven or flown under Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) supervision to a secret assembly point in Texas and then to Washington from where they left the country on a private charter plane when airports reopened three days after the attacks.[166] The official 9/11 commission later concluded that "the FBI conducted a satisfactory screening of Saudi nationals who left the United States on charter flights" and that the exodus was approved by special advisor Richard Clarke after a request by Saudi Arabia who feared for the safety of their nationals. On June 20, 2007 the public interest group Judicial Watch released FBI documents that it says suggested that Osama bin Laden himself may have chartered one of the flights. Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton accused the FBI of conducting a "slapdash" investigation of the flights.

And these also say the same thing.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/...in313048.shtml
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...758358,00.html

[HotelUser]

AS i said im neither side. Just throwing in some ideas.
anyway this from wikipedia

The New York Times reported that members of the bin Laden family were driven or flown under Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) supervision to a secret assembly point in Texas and then to Washington from where they left the country on a private charter plane when airports reopened three days after the attacks.[166] The official 9/11 commission later concluded that "the FBI conducted a satisfactory screening of Saudi nationals who left the United States on charter flights" and that the exodus was approved by special advisor Richard Clarke after a request by Saudi Arabia who feared for the safety of their nationals. On June 20, 2007 the public interest group Judicial Watch released FBI documents that it says suggested that Osama bin Laden himself may have chartered one of the flights. Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton accused the FBI of conducting a "slapdash" investigation of the flights.

And these also say the same thing.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/...in313048.shtml
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...758358,00.html

Yeah he was also revoked of his citizenship though from Saudi Arabia for smuggling weapons. Why would they let him in the states in the first place?

[piddle2k6]

i dont know. u tell me?

Maybe because bush had links with the bin ladens through business

[le harry]

terrorists did it...

[RedStratocas]

Another thing that is strange that as soon as the attacks happened all the Bin ladens family living in US took the only plane to leave US soil away.This was organised by the government/FBI

lie. there were no more flights after the attacks happened, there's no way they could have left.

ALSO:
There was also an unusual amount of trading in airline and insurance stocks in the days before September 11 and conspiracy theorists suggest that these can be best explained as the actions of people with foreknowledge of the attacks.

stocks are controlled by the masses. if stocks were falling because the people who owned stock knew it was going to happen, there are many many many many many people who knew it was going to happen. it would have slipped right away. not to mention that many of those people have no connection whatsoever to the government.

The collapse of the World Trade Center was a surprise to many structural engineers No steel-framed skyscraper had ever before or since collapsed due to fire or other local damage, yet it occurred three times on September 11, 2001.

it may have had to do with the fact a multi-ton steal structure filled with jet fuel slammed itself into the building. and everyone who says "but steal doznt melt at da same temp as fuel burnz! LOLZLZL!" -- it doesn't have to melt. steal weakens by about 60% at the temperature the fuel burns.

Suspicions were additionally fueled by a lack of video footage of the impact of the jetliner, since many assume that the Pentagon must be subject to intense camera surveillance for security reasons. In addition to the Pentagon's own security cameras, these people also noted that security camera footage from a nearby Citgo gas station, a local Double Tree Hotel and from the Virginia Department of Transportation was swiftly confiscated by the US government.

there is no evidence that this is true. loose change claimed it, and like many things, didn't back it up. they just said it happened, and unfortunately people believed it with no evidence.

[cocaine]

Do you want to know what I think caused 9/11?

Terroists.

[HotelUser]

Do you want to know what I think caused 9/11?

Terroists.

Know what? I think you're right !