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[Cixso]

In all honesty, whichever way they are chosen people will complain. If you are picked via management decision people will claim it was biased if you people are picked via nominations or votes it will turn into a popularity contest and a bit of both and I can imagine that people will still moan and complain. Things seem amazing from a distance but I can imagine if this got running people would feel they are not listened too, the only people who would feel considered and listened too would be the councillors themselves which would not really help. Even if the majority of people agree on something then it can't alway be implemented and with a council you don't always see what everyone wants whereas with a forum like this one everyone can post their personal views. If the councillors don't agree with a public idea it would end up being simply ignored which I feel would be worse for the members in a way. Overall sadly as much as I'd like this to work I just don't see it happening.

But people aren't really listened too now...

I think it would work, yes, they will be arguments, disagreements, but that is maybe why the councilors can do public polls to see what the members want, and work upon it.

[Catzsy]

But it would be wasting time for MAD and other staff where they could be doing their job, making backlogs.

As i said applications then public voting. 10 users and staff each put in the poll then public votes from that,

Otherwise some 'fools' will get nonimated.

Edit:
Yes, we discussed infractions though it would depend on how many, and as its NOT a official staff group it wouldnt matter as much.

1. Who is we? in 'we discussed infractions'.

2. The whole validity of representation of the members would be discredited
if the Management chose a shortlist. Why bother? Why not just got to public nomination - the membership have brains. They will treat the matter seriously.

[Mr.OSH]

Which is why i said council members should serve a shorter term, 3-6 months of being on the council befor ebeing revoted, surely someone who did nothing wouldnt get the same vote.. and perhaps the popular people might be the ones we are after, ether way it has problems but atleast when members do it, members can see that one of them is up there rather then someone who was chosen by mad for a fixen op.

Still within these councillors term you still have the fact that that decisions become responsibility of to councillors like the management have to deal with decision making at the moment, therefore realistically not everyone will be happy, it will be just the same as it is now as the councillors would not be representing anyone they would be simply be making decisions and putting forward ideas that they agreed on, they would be representing everyones ideas because that doesn't work, thats why people expressing their ideas in a forum is better like it is ran now. Overall these councillors would be complained about and people would claim that their ideas are being ignored still etc. Unfortunately in the real world this is the same, no one agreed with America going to Iraq and neither do I but the president gets the final say and I'm sure his cabinet didn't take individual comments and express them even if they didn't agree with them. Cabinet members make their own personally decisions and express their opinion which everyone at Habbox would complain about if that happened in a council.

But people aren't really listened too now...

I think it would work, yes, they will be arguments, disagreements, but that is maybe why the councilors can do public polls to see what the members want, and work upon it.

People are listened too, just someone has to have the final say because that is the only way things can be successful by having decision makers who decide despite what people say although they obviously try to take comments and ideas into account with their decisions. The management do listen to idea, you just don't think they do because not everything is accepted as they are the management at the end of the day and you are not, I know we'd all love to have our way but we just can't. You just have to remember it's a tough job making those decisions.

[Lycan]

Still within these councillors term you still have the fact that that decisions become responsibility of to councillors like the management have to deal with decision making at the moment, therefore realistically not everyone will be happy, it will be just the same as it is now as the councillors would not be representing anyone they would be simply be making decisions and putting forward ideas that they agreed on, they would be representing everyones ideas because that doesn't work, thats why people expressing their ideas in a forum is better like it is ran now. Overall these councillors would be complained about and people would claim that their ideas are being ignored still etc. Unfortunately in the real world this is the same, no one agreed with America going to Iraq and neither do I but the president gets the final say and I'm sure his cabinet didn't take individual comments and express them even if they didn't agree with them. Cabinet members make their own personally decisions and express their opinion which everyone at Habbox would complain about if that happened in a council.

They would be complained about yes, i can see you being one of the people complaining.

Lets break this down , do you want this forum to be communist style, where its just people in control yelling at the below and are chosen, or democratic where peoples views are voted to be heard...

This is just a forum jay, this is a good idea and it appears you just think people on this forum don't care about each others. people do understand that the popular people arn't the best for the job, atleast give them some kind of credit Jay.

If they complain then it fails, but that shoudn't be a reason not to try in the first place.


The writing i highlighted in bold doesn't make any sense.

[Earthquake]

They would be complained about yes, i can see you being one of the people complaining.

Lets break this down , do you want this forum to be communist style, where its just people in control yelling at the below and are chosen, or democratic where peoples views are voted to be heard...

This is just a forum jay, this is a good idea and it appears you just think people on this forum don't care about each others. people do understand that the popular people arn't the best for the job, atleast give them some kind of credit Jay.

If they complain then it fails, but that shoudn't be a reason not to try in the first place.


The writing i highlighted in bold doesn't make any sense.

Can you make it any smaller.

[Cixso]

Can you make it any smaller.

He is only doing it for 1 purpose

[Mr.OSH]

They would be complained about yes, i can see you being one of the people complaining.

Lets break this down , do you want this forum to be communist style, where its just people in control yelling at the below and are chosen, or democratic where peoples views are voted to be heard...

This is just a forum jay, this is a good idea and it appears you just think people on this forum don't care about each others. people do understand that the popular people arn't the best for the job, atleast give them some kind of credit Jay.

If they complain then it fails, but that shoudn't be a reason not to try in the first place.


The writing i highlighted in bold doesn't make any sense.

I respect peoples values and I like to think I rarely complain about people's decisions. I respect they are the ones who make them and therefore I have no problem with that. All I am doing here is expressing my opinion that this will not work.

Yes, a democratic style forum seems much better but I'll think you'll find democracy in the real world doesn't alway allow equal opportunities and fairness. Just look at it democracy is supposed to mean everyone is treat equally but there are people who live on the streets and people who own mansions even if they both worked really hard at life they may not always achieve equally as much as we would like it to be fair it just isn't. Making the forum ran by members I feel would collapse it, accepting their ideas is fine and looking into them is fine and that's what this forum is for but I do feel that a council of members would not help as people would simply complain about who is the councillors and personal opinions would always be expressed and it would be harder to see what the majority want. I do realise that lots of members on this forum as intelligent and would pick the correct people but some of them wouldn't, not all of them are as mature and as committed to Habbox as you guys? It's the same in the real world, people will not agree no matter what people decide.

You cannot make everyone happy as much as we'd like too. Maybe it's a good idea to give it a whirl and maybe it will work really well but personally from my opinion at this time I can't see it being a success.

[Lycan]

I respect peoples values and I like to think I rarely complain about people's decisions. I respect they are the ones who make them and therefore I have no problem with that. All I am doing here is expressing my opinion that this will not work.

Yes, a democratic style forum seems much better but I'll think you'll find democracy in the real world doesn't alway allow equal opportunities and fairness. Just look at it democracy is supposed to mean everyone is treat equally but there are people who live on the streets and people who own mansions even if they both worked really hard at life they may not always achieve equally as much as we would like it to be fair it just isn't. Making the forum ran by members I feel would collapse it, accepting their ideas is fine and looking into them is fine and that's what this forum is for but I do feel that a council of members would not help as people would simply complain about who is the councillors and personal opinions would always be expressed and it would be harder to see what the majority want. I do realise that lots of members on this forum as intelligent and would pick the correct people but some of them wouldn't, not all of them are as mature and as committed to Habbox as you guys? It's the same in the real world, people will not agree no matter what people decide.

You cannot make everyone happy as much as we'd like too. Maybe it's a good idea to give it a whirl and maybe it will work really well but personally from my opinion at this time I can't see it being a success.

Whatever happens there will be moaning, but if the right people are chosen, which there is a big chance there will be a massive boost for several months of acceptance and understanding in the forum, the council could acually make complaints go down . but they could make them go up, isn't it worth trying just to improve the view of people just that little bit

[Mr.OSH]

Whatever happens there will be moaning, but if the right people are chosen, which there is a big chance there will be a massive boost for several months of acceptance and understanding in the forum, the council could acually make complaints go down . but they could make them go up, isn't it worth trying just to improve the view of people just that little bit

I suppose it will make things either much better or much worse in terms of members feeling as if they are listened too and taken seriously. Maybe it's worth a try but thats up to sierk and MAD to decide if its worth that gamble.

[Lycan]

I suppose it will make things either much better or much worse in terms of members feeling as if they are listened too and taken seriously. Maybe it's worth a try but thats up to sierk and MAD to decide if its worth that gamble.

Yup, hopefully they will put the idea forward to getting it sorted, although its nice to have a jay supporting the idea