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[Soil]

This forum is different to the real world (goverment and politics), but similar in many ways.

I think once a council member puts forward a idea in details, and when its fully discussed and a decision is made, it should be moved to a public forum so the public can see the council members are doing something.

The thing Forum Council will do is hopefully reduce the number of complaints. I mean, they will make it easier for people to have their ideas put forward (obviously some might be missed, but more and more ideas will be put forward which is obviously good).

Obviously not everyone will be happy with the council members, but thats life. If Forum Council doesnt work then obviously it can just simply be scrapped.

[Mr.OSH]

Yup, hopefully they will put the idea forward to getting it sorted, although its nice to have a jay supporting the idea

I would love to see it work and I do support it, I was just showing my own opinion about how I feel it would turn out. I'm sorry if I seemed like a grumpy sod, I hate people to see me as that. I do respect all of your posts and views and every post that has been made has had the up most maturity and a fair argument which has been taken with respect and you all appear to have thought through how you feel about this. This is the way you get listened too by posting in the way you guys have with good replies and explanations of how you feel. I'm defiantly very grateful to the people who posted their opinions.

[today]

- Not getting picked / Mad's favs being picked.
I guess, a application form would be released to staff and users with roughly 5-6 questions depending from how to inprove, why you should be part of the council and how active you'll be and such, how long you've been on the forum, how often you post new idea's and all, this would stop some of the idiots applying and giving the actual intrested users a chance of getting a place o nthe council. Though detailed answers would be needed of course!

- Might not listen even in council
The memebrs in the council, including mad, must discuss the idea and say there's 6 members at least four must agree to the idea otherwise its not going to happen, if that makes sense, most of the members of the council must agree to the idea first and good and bad points must be spoke about and how to remove more bad points to make it fair for all the forum users, along with MAD must discuss the idea with the members so its fair. Along with if a idea has the support from the council it must be looked into UNLESS its a plugin, addon which may make it worse unless its officialy supported by vBulletin (Such as the blog system)

- Council gets ignored / scrapped
All users of the council must stay active, including MAD and if any unactive members they'll get voted out and a new member will take place by either the application system again or a vote on who should join, and as said in the point above the council must get spoke to and the support from MAD must be put into effect.

• Must have posted at least 'x' threads suggesting idea's (Simple search will result that, in the feedback forum)
• Must have been a member 'x' months, weeks (To show they are active and do enjoy Habbox)
• Must have less then 'x' infractions
• Friendly attutide
• Communication Skills
• Able to come online 'x' times a week to discuss ideas.
• Able to write long essays (to backup your points)
• Why you'll like to be part of the team.
• Able to come up with other ideas
• Able to read long threads and see both sides of a idea.

This is a guideline of which a application forum could be based upon, which would remove anyone who was a fool or idiot who tried to apply.

I'm sure myself and lycan along with other memebrs including Catszy can come up with other vaild points to support the idea, and i've seen what you've said to craig on msn and i admit it would be nice but i would rather have a council inplace which new idea's would actually get fully looked into instead of dieing and nothing happens.

This is what i had came up with, (NOTE: i do not fully suggest that application form will be final one if the idea happened along with i did not come up with all the comments and idea's thanks to Catszy, Lycan, Pycan, along with other members helping)

That was what got sent to MAD.

I hope this does work at the end of the day i and think two months trial should happen Further details could change after that or half way through as it doesnt hurt to try!

[Catzsy]

I would love to see it work and I do support it, I was just showing my own opinion about how I feel it would turn out. I'm sorry if I seemed like a grumpy sod, I hate people to see me as that. I do respect all of your posts and views and every post that has been made has had the up most maturity and a fair argument which has been taken with respect and you all appear to have thought through how you feel about this. This is the way you get listened too by posting in the way you guys have with good replies and explanations of how you feel. I'm defiantly very grateful to the people who posted their opinions.

Well Jay you really have to be commended for all your time and effort into getting involved in these threads and you hold valid opinions. Having been both side of the fence on here and running my own little forum I can see how easy it is to get isolated in the whole staff system and lose touch with the needs of the members. Fear of new things and fear of failure stops a lot of good things happening.

[Mr.OSH]

Well Jay you really have to be commended for all your time and effort into getting involved in these threads and you hold valid opinions. Having been both side of the fence on here and running my own little forum I can see how easy it is to get isolated in the whole staff system and lose touch with the needs of the members. Fear of new things and fear of failure stops a lot of good things happening.

Oh I do love you sometimes Rosie !

Yes, I also hope we can see this come along and expand at least that way we can see if it work or not rather than dismissing the idea, I'm sure that MAD and sierk will take this into serious consideration.

[today]

After reading what mister another member said (sorry forgot who) The council would also read complaints and see how they could be removed such as this example:

User complained that the reputation system is a mess and needs sorted, roughly 20 pages was created in the thread with people moaning.

The council would go through these pages, pick the key points out and discuss how the reputation system could change, first of all just bullet points such as,

• Remove -rep
• Remove reputation system
• Remove buying rep

Then each bullet point would be discussed (not all at once or it could get confusing) this would then hopefully create some essays by users for which the Forum MGMT could then discuss between them and either agree or disagree and scrap that idea.

[Catzsy]

I hope this does work at the end of the day i and think two months trial should happen Further details could change after that or half way through as it doesnt hurt to try!

Well I think a criteria of entitlement to be considered should be stated but as I say nominations from other members would be the best way forward. Once the shortlist is decided then the proposed council members could give their reason why they should be voted in - If anybody is not then taking it seriously they could be disqualified.

[today]

Well I think a criteria of entitlement to be considered should be stated but as I say nominations from other members would be the best way forward. Once the shortlist is decided then the proposed council members could give their reason why they should be voted in - If anybody is not then taking it seriously they could be disqualified.

Yes, as in my other post a sample criteria was posted, which would be a very basic at least idea of what could be needed before nominations.

Though i agree with your post about the last comment. +rep.

[Mr.OSH]

How about having a section of people chosen by the management who seem like they could do a good job and have good reasons to be chosen and then a final decision of the who the best few would be decided by the public. Maybe limit voting to people who have been with the forum for a few months to make sure no one creates multiple account or tries to rig the election? That way only people the public respect are voted in but at the same time the management can make a good decision on who is best for the job? I'm not sure if that would be a good way of choosing who could take these positions.

[today]

How about having a section of people chosen by the management who seem like they could do a good job and have good reasons to be chosen and then a final decision of the who the best few would be decided by the public. Maybe limit voting to people who have been with the forum for a few months to make sure no one creates multiple account or tries to rig the election? That way only people the public respect are voted in but at the same time the management can make a good decision on who is best for the job? I'm not sure if that would be a good way of choosing who could take these positions.

I see, that seems a great idea and would actually be fair. Though wouldnt that need a usergroup promotion and a new forum, set to permissions only that usergroup and managment can see for them to vote? Otherwise anyone could vote and see the thread.

But i do like that idea Well worth a try.