16 years and over forum.

[Yoshimitsui]

I understand what you are saying but who can be the judge of who is mature and who is not I'm sure there are some people who are 17 - 20 who are still immature in some aspects but others at 13 - 15 who are mature and it's just not easy to judge. Maturity to one person can be immaturity to another it just isn't possible to say if someone is immature or not and also telling someone they cannot access a forum because they are immature could make them feel upset and feel bad about themselves. Even though it would be great to have this personally I think there isn't a way to judge who can and who cannot access the forum. Any bets if this went ahead there would be a good number of what you'd feel were "immature" people in the forum and lots of people would complain and thus sparking arguments.

I can tell alot about some people who post on the forum due to the way they do it and what they put. It's quite easy. It would mainly be behaviour, those who just want to have those slightly more adult conversations with others who want to do the same.

[Nemo]

I understand what you are saying but who can be the judge of who is mature and who is not I'm sure there are some people who are 17 - 20 who are still immature in some aspects but others at 13 - 15 who are mature and it's just not easy to judge. Maturity to one person can be immaturity to another it just isn't possible to say if someone is immature or not and also telling someone they cannot access a forum because they are immature could make them feel upset and feel bad about themselves. Even though it would be great to have this personally I think there isn't a way to judge who can and who cannot access the forum. Any bets if this went ahead there would be a good number of what you'd feel were "immature" people in the forum and lots of people would complain and thus sparking arguments.

Based on if they have had many arguements, reasons for infractions and general behaviour. Get some1trustworthy like yoshimitsui to review ppl trying 2 get in

[Mr.OSH]

I can tell alot about some people who post on the forum due to the way they do it and what they put. It's quite easy. It would mainly be behaviour, those who just want to have those slightly more adult conversations with others who want to do the same.

Hmm I can see what you are saying but I still think some people would get in who are not old enough or mature enough to talk about adult conversations. Just because someone is well behaved doesn't show if they are mature about things and I'm sure there are people who are mature who have tons of infractions because they use inappropriate language allot so it wouldn't work that well, it's just not easy to decide who is mature and who is not you just can't tell and also mature people still fight and have arguments so it would personally just escalate arguments because the rules are relaxed and provoke them. Sadly I don't think this would work.

Based on if they have had many arguements, reasons for infractions and general behaviour. Get some1trustworthy like yoshimitsui to review ppl trying 2 get in

Mature people have arguments, infractions can be issued to people who are not mature as people who don't abide to the rules doesn't mean they are immature it may mean they just choose to ignore the rules. Personally I don't think you can judge people's maturity that way.

Overall even if we could judge their maturity I don't think it would work it would just turn into a rant and arguments forum which would make some people feel uncomfortable as they know they are getting slated and bullied even if it isn't 100% direct in that forum. Relaxing the rules on a forum of Habbox UK's scale and providing a forum for "mature" people in my opinion would cause lots of fights and would include lots of bullying.

What would the forum be used for other than swearing and talking about inappropriate subjects? I'd like to hear exactly what you would want to use it for as mature people still argue from time to time so that wouldn't fix that problem, I just can't see it working.

Sorry if it seems like I'm killing the idea but I don't think it would work.

[Nemo]

Mature people have arguments, infractions can be issued to people who are not mature as people who don't abide to the rules doesn't mean they are immature it may mean they just choose to ignore the rules. Personally I don't think you can judge people's maturity that way.

Overall even if we could judge their maturity I don't think it would work it would just turn into a rant and arguments forum which would make some people feel uncomfortable as they know they are getting slated and bullied even if it isn't 100% direct in that forum. Relaxing the rules on a forum of Habbox UK's scale and providing a forum for "mature" people in my opinion would cause lots of fights and would include lots of bullying.

What would the forum be used for other than swearing and talking about inappropriate subjects? I'd like to hear exactly what you would want to use it for as mature people still argue from time to time so that wouldn't fix that problem, I just can't see it working.

Sorry if it seems like I'm killing the idea but I don't think it would work.

When i say look at their infractions, i mean see what they are for. If they are for 'double posting' that doesn't really matter but if it was for something else then it shows you something. Also i know what you mean about what people would discuss in there, and tbh... i have no idea =]

[HotelUser]

Hmm I can see what you are saying but I still think some people would get in who are not old enough or mature enough to talk about adult conversations. Just because someone is well behaved doesn't show if they are mature about things and I'm sure there are people who are mature who have tons of infractions because they use inappropriate language allot so it wouldn't work that well, it's just not easy to decide who is mature and who is not you just can't tell and also mature people still fight and have arguments so it would personally just escalate arguments because the rules are relaxed and provoke them. Sadly I don't think this would work.



Mature people have arguments, infractions can be issued to people who are not mature as people who don't abide to the rules doesn't mean they are immature it may mean they just choose to ignore the rules. Personally I don't think you can judge people's maturity that way.

Overall even if we could judge their maturity I don't think it would work it would just turn into a rant and arguments forum which would make some people feel uncomfortable as they know they are getting slated and bullied even if it isn't 100% direct in that forum. Relaxing the rules on a forum of Habbox UK's scale and providing a forum for "mature" people in my opinion would cause lots of fights and would include lots of bullying.

What would the forum be used for other than swearing and talking about inappropriate subjects? I'd like to hear exactly what you would want to use it for as mature people still argue from time to time so that wouldn't fix that problem, I just can't see it working.

Sorry if it seems like I'm killing the idea but I don't think it would work.

Sure they have arguments. Though we can say, "If you say anything to intentionally cause argument than you will be removed from the forum," and, "If you argue you will be removed from this forum." As simple as that. You can disagree and debate, politely.

Based on if they have had many arguements, reasons for infractions and general behaviour. Get some1trustworthy like yoshimitsui to review ppl trying 2 get in

He would do a fine job with regards to reviewing users as he knows what he is looking for.

I understand what you are saying but who can be the judge of who is mature and who is not I'm sure there are some people who are 17 - 20 who are still immature in some aspects but others at 13 - 15 who are mature and it's just not easy to judge. Maturity to one person can be immaturity to another it just isn't possible to say if someone is immature or not and also telling someone they cannot access a forum because they are immature could make them feel upset and feel bad about themselves. Even though it would be great to have this personally I think there isn't a way to judge who can and who cannot access the forum. Any bets if this went ahead there would be a good number of what you'd feel were "immature" people in the forum and lots of people would complain and thus sparking arguments.

If they complain about how they didn't get into the mature section, and cause arguments than it shows that they are immature. They wont try that I don't think. If they do people can just tell them that.

dont call it 16+ then. call it the mature forum as said.


I'm all for it, im 13. I find myself mature but others might not. I don't know but it would be good to escape from the real... annoyances of some of the people on this forum.

I've said it would be a mature forum and not a 16 forum before, though I can't rename the thread . Somebody said it wouldn't be fair to exclude people by age. They're correct. Though if we allow them in from seeing how mature they are, I think that's very fair.

At the end of the day this forum is based around Habbo and is aimed at a teenage audience and I think you'd fine the majority of the forum is under the age of 16 however people under 16 would try to gain access to the "16+" forum anyway, it would cause issues and fights which would be hard to control if the forum had no set rules. Also people would abuse their opportunity's in the forum and just ruin it for the people who really wanted to use it correctly. There is no real reason to have a forum with no rules introduced as it just encourages people to be abusive and break other rules for the sake of breaking them. People can express their opinions and enjoy the forum without having to swear or be rude in anyway. Also people would be annoyed if they were over 16 but denied access and also people would be angry with people under 16 been allowed access and it's too difficult to moderate who would be old enough to view the forum or not. Sadly, although in theory this is a good idea it's too difficult to moderate and to put into practise especially on such a large forum.

It wouldn't be a 16 forum, it would be a mature forum.

if its mature forum then people will just get annoyed as your calling then immature :S

No, not really. It's a forum for members who act mature. We don't tell immiture members they are immature.

[The Professor]

I know this is slightly different to the original suggestion, but maybe the same mature conversation could be a achieved in a "perfect record" forum? Only people who have 0 infractions could view it, and they would have to be at least silver member or VIP to prevent people just registering new accounts and posting. This would also give expiration of infractions a purpose; you have to wait until the infractions have expired to view the forum.

[Plank]

isn't there already a vip forum for people with vip? why not just post in all the other forums and put the people that annoy you on ignore. saves a lot of time and hassle.

[Nemo]

I know this is slightly different to the original suggestion, but maybe the same mature conversation could be a achieved in a "perfect record" forum? Only people who have 0 infractions could view it, and they would have to be at least silver member or VIP to prevent people just registering new accounts and posting. This would also give expiration of infractions a purpose; you have to wait until the infractions have expired to view the forum.

Some ppl get pointless infractions though, such as double posting which has nothing to do with maturity

[Mr.OSH]

When i say look at their infractions, i mean see what they are for. If they are for 'double posting' that doesn't really matter but if it was for something else then it shows you something. Also i know what you mean about what people would discuss in there, and tbh... i have no idea =]

I understand that but mature people still can sometimes use inappropriate language for HabboxForum so that rules out the idea of judging it by infractions, really. Also I feel it would turn into a forum of rule breaking than anything else, I'm the same as you, what would people discuss in there? It would basically be a spam section but with relaxed rules and I'm sure that wouldn't be very good as the spam section is quite badly behaved from time to time with the rules the forum correctly has. Sadly the people who are nice and are mature would have it ruined by others who would abuse this opportunity and even if you could split it, I don't think judging it on maturity is a good idea.

Sure they have arguments. Though we can say, "If you say anything to intentionally cause argument than you will be removed from the forum," and, "If you argue you will be removed from this forum." As simple as that. You can disagree and debate, politely.



He would do a fine job with regards to reviewing users as he knows what he is looking for.



If they complain about how they didn't get into the mature section, and cause arguments than it shows that they are immature. They wont try that I don't think. If they do people can just tell them that.



I've said it would be a mature forum and not a 16 forum before, though I can't rename the thread . Somebody said it wouldn't be fair to exclude people by age. They're correct. Though if we allow them in from seeing how mature they are, I think that's very fair.



It wouldn't be a 16 forum, it would be a mature forum.



No, not really. It's a forum for members who act mature. We don't tell immiture members they are immature.

It's just not easy to decide who is and isn't mature it's simply a matter of opinion in some cases. I can see why a member would be seen as immature or not but mature members can still break rules, mature members can still have fights etc, so how do you judge someone to be "mature" or not. Even judging the way they speak to people isn't fair as it's over the Internet and some people would speak in "txt" speak anyway. Also people who simply go "OMG why is he in here, he isn't mature" and people would fight over who is mature and who is not.

I know this is slightly different to the original suggestion, but maybe the same mature conversation could be a achieved in a "perfect record" forum? Only people who have 0 infractions could view it, and they would have to be at least silver member or VIP to prevent people just registering new accounts and posting. This would also give expiration of infractions a purpose; you have to wait until the infractions have expired to view the forum.

Personally that sounds like a very good idea as it would encourage people to behave and stick to the rules because they are getting a reward in effect for doing it. Brilliant idea + rep.

Some ppl get pointless infractions though, such as double posting which has nothing to do with maturity

Well then we could only deny access to it if they have hard rule breaking infractions or lots of infractions for the same offence?

[Nemo]

Also, at first, you make it public for everyone and ban the people who begin to act imature and act foolishly from that forum. It would be easier instead of reviewing everyone