16 years and over forum.

[GommeInc]

Mature people can be abusive in some way, shape or form? Maybe heavy abuse should be banned? Slight abuse when you totally disagree is ok, because it's not meant to be offensive, it wears off after a while.

[HotelUser]

Mature people can be abusive in some way, shape or form? Maybe heavy abuse should be banned? Slight abuse when you totally disagree is ok, because it's not meant to be offensive, it wears off after a while.

If what you say in this forum is offensive to others, intended to hurt others or the user in question is displaying poor attitude or unnecessary abusive behavior, than I think said user should be expelled from the mature forum.

there is no real test for maturity, i guess you could tell from the way they act, speak, there level to commitment, if they keep a stable debate rather then abusive response, if they laugh at toilet humour?

I've explained a few fair ways with regards to judging ones maturity level before. Though you are right when you say you can judge one by how they speak, do that have debating skills, or flaming skills and if they laugh at childish things.

And what's the test for maturity?

In the very first post of the thread, I've described some ideas with regards to testing users maturity level.

Leave the 16, get an 18+ Forum.

... and by 18+ i'm not talking about images i'm just talking about a more mature adult level of conversation on something other then "Look at that noob he has furni"

Well, if they are mature than I don't think they will talk like that.

i dont want this to appen soz.

Why?

I think this has gone a bit off the original idea! The best thing to do in my opinion would be to trial this 'Older peoples' forum and let people into it who want to talk to each other and have a laff and without the sily comments you can get.

Ah, true. Though if users are mature they wont post silly comments .

But then why would those with a 'perfect record' want to post in a section where the rules are relexed when they could just post in another section.

That's just not a dig at that post by the way.. the whole idea is fairly pointless in my eyes.

On the contrary. Users in the mature forum would stick to the rules all the time. All the members of it would or else they would face being expelled from it.

Personally I think that we should have that trailed as I think it could really help stop rule breaking around the forum as people would be much more encouraged to stick to the rules as they wouldn't want to get banned from that forum. Nice idea, well done for suggesting it.

I absolutely couldn't agree more! The users on the forum will have a goal!

In that case it would encourage people to stick to the rules, making the rest of the forum better as well as providing a place for well-behaved members to have mature conversations.



I personally think that should apply to the whole of the forum, but unfortunately it doesn't. It also would make a poor first impression, as people will see the immature people posting and be put off.

I think people would try and act mature to try and gain access to the forum. It would be a good incentive to post better. Then we can tell the users in the mature forum that if they're caught doing something immature around the forums anywhere their privileges to the mature forum will be revoked. So they will act great all the time.

I understand that but mature people still can sometimes use inappropriate language for HabboxForum so that rules out the idea of judging it by infractions, really. Also I feel it would turn into a forum of rule breaking than anything else, I'm the same as you, what would people discuss in there? It would basically be a spam section but with relaxed rules and I'm sure that wouldn't be very good as the spam section is quite badly behaved from time to time with the rules the forum correctly has. Sadly the people who are nice and are mature would have it ruined by others who would abuse this opportunity and even if you could split it, I don't think judging it on maturity is a good idea.



It's just not easy to decide who is and isn't mature it's simply a matter of opinion in some cases. I can see why a member would be seen as immature or not but mature members can still break rules, mature members can still have fights etc, so how do you judge someone to be "mature" or not. Even judging the way they speak to people isn't fair as it's over the Internet and some people would speak in "txt" speak anyway. Also people who simply go "OMG why is he in here, he isn't mature" and people would fight over who is mature and who is not.



Personally that sounds like a very good idea as it would encourage people to behave and stick to the rules because they are getting a reward in effect for doing it. Brilliant idea + rep.



Well then we could only deny access to it if they have hard rule breaking infractions or lots of infractions for the same offence?

I don't see how having a mature forum would change the forum into a forum filled of rule breaking, that would certainly not happen. I think it is very easy to decide whether or not a user is immature just by seeing how they post and react to others. Users who go around swearing at each other wouldn't be mature. It's ok to say brb or lol. Things like that. But when people talk like, "this than i fink its nart mature," people who talk like that, don't really get much respect in my eyes. Then infractions. If they got an infraction for swearing at somebody, being rude or something similar to that, they're not mature. Double posting or doing something small to get infractions, aren't that bad.

[nvrspk4]

Just going off the first post, I don't agree with the idea as its presented.

A) If the point is to allow members to discuss things they can't in the main forum due to age restrictions and avoid the filter, then we have to be SURE they are over 16.

B) Many 16 year olds are immature, and many 14 year olds are more mature. The entrance process would be hugely disputed.

C) We don't have proof that anyone is 16. Except for mailing us proof of DOB and such things, which I don't think people would like to do.


Based on that, I don't like the idea as is. But I do like the idea of a special forum for mature and well behaved members. Members with no infractions and four months on the forum, and > 100 posts could apply. Gaining any infractions would disqualify you from seeing the forum until they expire. Getting banned would permanantly disqualify you from the forum.

Yes its harsh, but IMO its worth it for a good community. They might not be excepted from the rules like filters and subjects, but you would have a mature community to discuss things in.

[Reverse]

Good Idea yes.. but what happens if its one in all in with youngs? Say if someone was being immature, then all younger members could get labeled Immature.. even though many young members are mature.

[MissAlice]

Quite an interesting thread, and I don't post here very often, but read this with interest. I don't think it's right for anyone to have to prove their age on this forum, especially as most members here are young teenagers.

Adults at the age of 40 can behave immaturely, just take a look around at some of your friends parents and yet someone of the age of 14/15 can know exactly how to behave in an exclusive forum.

One way to introduce selected members to such an exclusive forum, would be by asking members to recommend the first exclusive members, let's say 20 members, the number you begin with could be as high as you like. Ask forum members to nominate who they consider to be the most 'mature' members of this forum. Allow Habbox Management to check the top 20 nominees for any bad infractions, anything else Management may feel is worth checking too. Give the new 'exclusive forum' a month's trial, and if it looks like it was a good idea after all, then allow the 20 existing 'exclusive forum members' the opportunity to invite one or two members each into the forum, for the first few months. If this new forum turns into a success, you would have to create a formula for how you go about inviting newer members to the exclusive forum for the future.

If an 'exclusive member' invites someone who turns out to be unsuitable and loses permission to post in that forum, then the member who nominated loses their right to nominate again for a set period of time.

Members would want to be a part of an 'exclusive forum' and as one or two have already mentioned it may go some way to encouraging those less mature to behave a bit better

You could also introduce a special title for members of this forum to display.

Just an idea

[drama]

they have that on habmate ?

Yeah they do.
You have to prove your over 16 (Drivers license, rail card uni thing, etc).
I can't get in, i even bribed garion with sex

[Lycan]

Yeah they do.
You have to prove your over 16 (Drivers license, rail card uni thing, etc).
I can't get in, i even bribed garion with sex

ucas card?

[Galaxay1]

On have mate i just said my DOB but a year before (1990 instead of 1991) and i got accepted, and im only 15.

[HotelUser]

Just going off the first post, I don't agree with the idea as its presented.

A) If the point is to allow members to discuss things they can't in the main forum due to age restrictions and avoid the filter, then we have to be SURE they are over 16.

If it were a mature forum as we've been discussing, I suppose we would be talking maturely, about mature issues I would think not since we can't prove users age.

B) Many 16 year olds are immature, and many 14 year olds are more mature. The entrance process would be hugely disputed.

We've been discussing, and I've also mentioned in my first post in the thread, that it wouldn't be limited by age. But just by maturity level.

C) We don't have proof that anyone is 16. Except for mailing us proof of DOB and such things, which I don't think people would like to do.

Certainly people shouldn't be doing this. Though I would never expect Habbox to request this information from anybody anyway that verification process wouldn't work out.

Based on that, I don't like the idea as is. But I do like the idea of a special forum for mature and well behaved members. Members with no infractions and four months on the forum, and > 100 posts could apply. Gaining any infractions would disqualify you from seeing the forum until they expire. Getting banned would permanantly disqualify you from the forum.

Yes its harsh, but IMO its worth it for a good community. They might not be excepted from the rules like filters and subjects, but you would have a mature community to discuss things in.

Yes, an ideal situation, the requirements to enter the forum would give habbox users a goal to work to! Behaving, sticking around as well as posting frequently.

Good Idea yes.. but what happens if its one in all in with youngs? Say if someone was being immature, then all younger members could get labeled Immature.. even though many young members are mature.

Yes there are some mature young members. Though we've been discussing making it a mature forum, not an age forum.

On have mate i just said my DOB but a year before (1990 instead of 1991) and i got accepted, and im only 15.

I wouldn't of posted that on here .

[Galaxay1]

Why not? Im simply showing that Habmate currently has it and even they're system is at flaw.