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    Omg, now people are saying its 5T. This is really annoying, whoever started selling them for 7T should be destroyed. I cant believe were still arguing over this. Theres no debate here, theres a definite conclusion :

    Stage 1. people who won the Sky Dragon sold their sky drags for 18T

    Stage 2. people who bought them sold them for 7T, which is right darn stupid considering they are losing 11T on a deal.

    The conclusion : the current sky dragon value is a complete lie and has been completely misleaded as being a common rare, therefore the most correct thing to do is change it so its higher. still dont believe me? look at the gold laser gate, given out as a prize in funky frieday yet its 10T. most prizes that come out in funky friday are usually, if not always at a low price and that should be the same for the Dragon. Sky drags came out from winners of a pixel maze, a possible one time event whereas the funky friday is a weekly event, therefore sky drags deserve to be 10T if the price of gold lasers dont drop. And people have been saying theyve seen this deal has happened so the furni is this price, and earlier someone said that theres no proof that the sky dragon has been sold for higher than 12T, well let me ask you this, WHERES YOUR PROOF THAT THE SKY DRAGON HAS BEEN SOLD FOR 7T? The witnesses who say this may not tell the truth you know. Heck, you dont even know if your RVR's are telling the truth, they can easily make up values and make believable reasons, which can be false.

    You should seriously consider changing the price of the Sky Dragon NOW before your critised even more, and look, people are already criticising the rare values department for the price of a throne. Thats only going to get worse if you dont listen to what people are saying :@:@:@
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exelglug View Post
    Omg, now people are saying its 5T. This is really annoying, whoever started selling them for 7T should be destroyed. I cant believe were still arguing over this. Theres no debate here, theres a definite conclusion :

    Stage 1. people who won the Sky Dragon sold their sky drags for 18T

    Stage 2. people who bought them sold them for 7T, which is right darn stupid considering they are losing 11T on a deal.

    The conclusion : the current sky dragon value is a complete lie and has been completely misleaded as being a common rare, therefore the most correct thing to do is change it so its higher. still dont believe me? look at the gold laser gate, given out as a prize in funky frieday yet its 10T. most prizes that come out in funky friday are usually, if not always at a low price and that should be the same for the Dragon. Sky drags came out from winners of a pixel maze, a possible one time event whereas the funky friday is a weekly event, therefore sky drags deserve to be 10T if the price of gold lasers dont drop. And people have been saying theyve seen this deal has happened so the furni is this price, and earlier someone said that theres no proof that the sky dragon has been sold for higher than 12T, well let me ask you this, WHERES YOUR PROOF THAT THE SKY DRAGON HAS BEEN SOLD FOR 7T? The witnesses who say this may not tell the truth you know. Heck, you dont even know if your RVR's are telling the truth, they can easily make up values and make believable reasons, which can be false.

    You should seriously consider changing the price of the Sky Dragon NOW before your critised even more, and look, people are already criticising the rare values department for the price of a throne. Thats only going to get worse if you dont listen to what people are saying :@:@:@
    Lets stop a minute, you honestly think we're going to change the value of the sky dragon for you? You expect us to ignore the value of what the last few were traded for? It's not going to happen. No matter how bad the criticism is we won't change values for people because they've lost out on some furni.

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    haha i paid 28T for one ...... then had it confiscated as they were only staff owned at the time ...... glad to see they have released a couple or so ... tbh i think all supers fell because of sulake releasing them ..... red smoke ect .... i was lucky to have sold the one i had when there were only 2 .... and i was lucky to have sold my 4 gold pillows when there was only a handful


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    Quote Originally Posted by Immenseman View Post
    Lets stop a minute, you honestly think we're going to change the value of the sky dragon for you? You expect us to ignore the value of what the last few were traded for? It's not going to happen. No matter how bad the criticism is we won't change values for people because they've lost out on some furni.
    Tbh, if you listened, you would know that you cant change a value just because one or 2 people traded it for that e.g. you dont change an antique piano to the price of £1 just because some kid bought it for that, think about it, would you change the value of something like that to £1 if that happened?
    No you wouldnt, and you dont realise it, but thats what your doing to most other rares, judging as each trade happens. So let me ask you, lets say if i bought a Purple dragon for 1CS and then another person did, would you then change the value of it to that, even though it is obviously worth more? Again, your answer would be no, but your doing it to every other rare, like the throne. Hmm why the drop to 35CS from 44Cs was it? theres no reason for that, its been about 40-45 CS for so long, you just waited for 2 people to trade a throne for that so you could say its that price. And if your values are getting criticism, carry on doing what you do, but dont think people will think its true. You should give a reason for each decrease or increase when you hover the mouse over each rare picture, then people may think its true or may not and youll get a little respect for it, and dont say "the reason is the same for each one" because of what the values ive seen, you can come up with something different for everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exelglug View Post
    Tbh, if you listened, you would know that you cant change a value just because one or 2 people traded it for that e.g. you dont change an antique piano to the price of £1 just because some kid bought it for that, think about it, would you change the value of something like that to £1 if that happened?
    No you wouldnt, and you dont realise it, but thats what your doing to most other rares, judging as each trade happens. So let me ask you, lets say if i bought a Purple dragon for 1CS and then another person did, would you then change the value of it to that, even though it is obviously worth more? Again, your answer would be no, but your doing it to every other rare, like the throne. Hmm why the drop to 35CS from 44Cs was it? theres no reason for that, its been about 40-45 CS for so long, you just waited for 2 people to trade a throne for that so you could say its that price. And if your values are getting criticism, carry on doing what you do, but dont think people will think its true. You should give a reason for each decrease or increase when you hover the mouse over each rare picture, then people may think its true or may not and youll get a little respect for it, and dont say "the reason is the same for each one" because of what the values ive seen, you can come up with something different for everything.
    It's hard not to listen to you when you seem to be repeating the same thing again and again. The amount of people who have attemepted to tell you how things work is incredible seeing as you're still putting across the same arguement. When there are only a few sky dragons as you've pointed out numerous times we can't wait for 10+ trades to happen before updating the value. We use the last trade that happened. The people who sold the sky dragon for 6-7t obviously felt this was the best value they could get for it so they followed through with the trade. In turn these trades made the value on habbox change. We try and get the newest and most accurate values for our rares, which is below what you seem to think the rare is worth. If you traded your sky dragon for 20t tonight that would be the value. If someone then decided to trade it for 30t that would be the value. If someone else decided to trade theres for 5t that would be the value. The example in your post if the purple dragon was sold at 1hc, guess what the value would be. If you say the same things again, I won't be replying.
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    vintus has a sky drag omg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immenseman View Post
    It's hard not to listen to you when you seem to be repeating the same thing again and again. The amount of people who have attemepted to tell you how things work is incredible seeing as you're still putting across the same arguement. When there are only a few sky dragons as you've pointed out numerous times we can't wait for 10+ trades to happen before updating the value. We use the last trade that happened. The people who sold the sky dragon for 6-7t obviously felt this was the best value they could get for it so they followed through with the trade. In turn these trades made the value on habbox change. We try and get the newest and most accurate values for our rares, which is below what you seem to think the rare is worth. If you traded your sky dragon for 20t tonight that would be the value. If someone then decided to trade it for 30t that would be the value. If someone else decided to trade theres for 5t that would be the value. The example in your post if the purple dragon was sold at 1hc, guess what the value would be. If you say the same things again, I won't be replying.
    Me, repeating my argument? u think i had a choice? the same argument pretty much counter argue's everyone elses. They didnt listen to my posts, they just ignored and made the same argument by using different examples. Undertaker was practically talking about the same argument with fans, dinos, BB's, thrones, the army plasto. I could go on forever. And i havent literally said the same thing over and over, i havent literally said 'Thats not right' or something along the lines every time ive posted. And your indeed correct on getting the newest values but on accuracy your most definitely incorrect. You cannot possibly get an exact value of something just because one trade happens. I will repeat this though, you get an average of all the trades that occur with that furni, of course you cant get every one, but you need a bigger sample size like 10 to 20 trades. 6 Sky dragons were sold at 18T, then i believe those 6 were sold at 7T, so the correct value is (18+7) divided by 2 = 12.5 Thrones.

    If you dont reply, your just denying the fact that your department isnt doing things correctly. The duties the department does is bad practice. Ive made many arguments, ive come up with a different, reliable argument to every other argument that other people have said, so dont you dare say im repeating myself. And if you still deny it, i will protest and protest continuously about this issue until im heard because your being very disrespectful, and i will retaliate as i see appropriate. Got that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exelglug View Post
    Me, repeating my argument? u think i had a choice? the same argument pretty much counter argue's everyone elses. They didnt listen to my posts, they just ignored and made the same argument by using different examples. Undertaker was practically talking about the same argument with fans, dinos, BB's, thrones, the army plasto. I could go on forever. And i havent literally said the same thing over and over, i havent literally said 'Thats not right' or something along the lines every time ive posted. And your indeed correct on getting the newest values but on accuracy your most definitely incorrect. You cannot possibly get an exact value of something just because one trade happens. I will repeat this though, you get an average of all the trades that occur with that furni, of course you cant get every one, but you need a bigger sample size like 10 to 20 trades. 6 Sky dragons were sold at 18T, then i believe those 6 were sold at 7T, so the correct value is (18+7) divided by 2 = 12.5 Thrones.

    If you dont reply, your just denying the fact that your department isnt doing things correctly. The duties the department does is bad practice. Ive made many arguments, ive come up with a different, reliable argument to every other argument that other people have said, so dont you dare say im repeating myself. And if you still deny it, i will protest and protest continuously about this issue until im heard because your being very disrespectful, and i will retaliate as i see appropriate. Got that?
    No matter how you try and re-word your arguement, you are saying the same thing, I suppose I am to. The fact is where a rare and habbox is concerned we update the value to the last few trades. It's not like there was just one trade of the sky dragon made at 6-7t was there. The thread starter even sold his in that area, it seems only you are unwilling to accept that's what people are willing to pay for the Sky Dragon. Habbox don't do averages of values it's been that way since the department opened and it's the way it will continue to be. If I decided not to reply to your post then 'i'm denying the fact my department isn't doing things correctly' that's one of the most ridiculous things you've managed to come up with. If I don't reply it's because i'm sick of your repetitive arguement. You can protest all you want, you can take this how far you want but the bottom line is the last few sky dragons were sold at 6-7t, hence the value on habbox. I hope the last few lines on your post wasn't a threat because I personally find that inappropriate and disrespectful, okay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immenseman View Post
    No matter how you try and re-word your arguement, you are saying the same thing, I suppose I am to. The fact is where a rare and habbox is concerned we update the value to the last few trades. It's not like there was just one trade of the sky dragon made at 6-7t was there. The thread starter even sold his in that area, it seems only you are unwilling to accept that's what people are willing to pay for the Sky Dragon. Habbox don't do averages of values it's been that way since the department opened and it's the way it will continue to be. If I decided not to reply to your post then 'i'm denying the fact my department isn't doing things correctly' that's one of the most ridiculous things you've managed to come up with. If I don't reply it's because i'm sick of your repetitive arguement. You can protest all you want, you can take this how far you want but the bottom line is the last few sky dragons were sold at 6-7t, hence the value on habbox. I hope the last few lines on your post wasn't a threat because I personally find that inappropriate and disrespectful, okay?
    My arguments lead to one big argument, thats why you think im repeating myself. U suggested earlier that the department took the first trade value as the real value for that rare, just look four posts above, so lets not try to change our facts. The words you quoted arent ridiculous, quite frankly, saying that 'I am unwilling to accept that's what people are willing to pay' is the most ridiculous thing youve said, i accept thats what people pay, im just trying to prove them wrong. I'm sick of you not accepting anything ive said, ive accepted some things youve said, so why cant you? even though some things ive said are completely good points. If habbox dont do averages, then the practice was wrong from the start, what your doing isnt the proper way toput a value on something, as ive proved earlier. To be totally onest, were both being disrespected and we both find things innapropriate, but lets just remember who started disrespecting the other, and that person's name begins with the letter 'I' and ends with the letter 'N'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exelglug View Post
    My arguments lead to one big argument, thats why you think im repeating myself. U suggested earlier that the department took the first trade value as the real value for that rare, just look four posts above, so lets not try to change our facts. The words you quoted arent ridiculous, quite frankly, saying that 'I am unwilling to accept that's what people are willing to pay' is the most ridiculous thing youve said, i accept thats what people pay, im just trying to prove them wrong. I'm sick of you not accepting anything ive said, ive accepted some things youve said, so why cant you? even though some things ive said are completely good points. If habbox dont do averages, then the practice was wrong from the start, what your doing isnt the proper way toput a value on something, as ive proved earlier. To be totally onest, were both being disrespected and we both find things innapropriate, but lets just remember who started disrespecting the other, and that person's name begins with the letter 'I' and ends with the letter 'N'.
    I am actually trying to understand you. I understand the point you're getting across and i've taken it. You think the people who are selling them cheap are stupid, that's a fair point which I accept. I don't have any problem with you, it's understandable you're annoyed that you have missed out on a number of thrones due to a value on habbox, which I also think is fair enough. I'll apologise to you now if you think i've been to harsh and bad-tempered as that isn't what I intended to do. The thing is, it's the way habbox is and it isn't going to be changed with this thread, that's the only point I need to get across to you because none of your posts show you've registered it. If you can understand that then you understand where I am coming from.

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