ClubTropica Discussion

[The-Macabre-One]

i skimmed over what you had to say, some good and valid points.

however, you cannot directly say that they are "advertising" on here, unless andy the thread creator is involved with clubtropica in some way.

some may agree that word of mouth is often the best form of advertisement, as you may have seen theres already nearly 2000 people subscribed to the email update thing, which is a hell of a lot considering the short space of time this thread has been around.

theres no saying that all of those people are from habboxforum. by now world will have spread to a number of people in a variety of ways.

as for your point on sulakes profits etc, so what if they are in it for the money? Sulake overall probably earn a considerable chunk of their income from other companies, brands etc paying to be advertised on the website, as well as other promotions and what not.

If the bosses at Sulake wish to develop further and further, they need to obviously pay for people, software, and other resources in order to do this. the money has to come from somewhere, by now all the investors would be bust if everything habbo offered was free. and nothing had to be paid for.



lets look at some other big, well known companies, should places like McDonals give out free burgers because they only sell them to make a profit?

at the end of the day, like Habbo, like McDonalds, like every other place you can think of, ClubTropica is run as a business, who's purpose is to provide a service, the service(s) provided are irrelevant. Assuming there is going to be a f2p and p2p version, i dont see why you are making such a fuss over it

I never actually proclaimed that Sulake should offer all services as free, else yes they would loose on profits, I don't believe they'd go bust as they've enough capital. They'd need to pay for the upkeep of local offices, mainframe servers for the emulators, and staff wages. However Sulake are well established, and that reducing profits by a little for users to have slightly cheaper credits wouldn't have a dramatic effect on they're gross profits.

All I was saying in the previous post was emphasising to users that Sulake can often be rather greedy, and that reducing profits by say 2% wouldn't make an infatuating difference to Sulake's main source of income and gross profits. Sulake has many investors, and personally Habbo Hotel is just one source of it's main income. Therefore just lowering credits by 2% for users to have cheaper credits, user's could have more enjoyment by buying more furniture!

I was just emphasising with Habbo Hotel that they do market research professionally by advertising through appropriate methods. For example, you don't see Sulake advertise on third-party MMOPRG sites do you? if they did, then I'd class Sulake as unprofessional and money grabbing gits (pardon the pun) because they won't spend a little to gain more than what they invested. Sulake invest in advertisements, and I'm sure it doesn't come cheap, you see celebrities visit the offices so it's proclaimed and so forth.

ClubTropica on the other hand, they've gone for word of mouth. It would be appropriate if they at least advertised in MMORPG Forum, but to aim it at existing communities, that Sulake has build upon is unprofessional and shouldn't be tolerated by Sulake. Try and give empathy to Sulake, IF you was an entrepreneur or was part of corporate company, and to find third-parties trespass on your product by advertising they're product though the mediums of Habbo fansites (such as Habbox as what Andy has done, as he's part of the project), then I'm sure you'd be a little abrupt and disheartened. Even though it's no skin off Sulake, It's not the appropriate way to go about advertising.

ClubTropica can advertise through a 101 methods to gain fresh new members who'd like to participate in MMORPG community. Therefore I see ClubTropica in my eyes as unprofessional. Some members may disagree, and some members may agree with my opinions.

[dannyisnotamazing]

The file i was downloading was from microsoft.

lol so your gunna try and give microsoft 5783 trojans? ahaah

[Jõnathan]

In response to people who query the person who wrote the essay. It's Dvdaf who's a ex-Habbo eXpert, the reason he's on here is because I highlighted it to him as he likes getting involved in Sulake politics

LOL!
That's a bit... sad don't you think?
But anyway, why make fansites for a game that hasn't even been launched yet? :S It's more ideal to make a fansite for a game AFTER it's been released!

I know of another game that has been around for about 5 years, and since a competitor came around, its popularity dropped like Rik Waller falling off the Clifton Suspension Bridge.
However, the game has resurged into popularity after an online version of it was announced, and people have made fansites for it now.

So, if you don't want to go to Club Tropica, then don't!
If you do, then just go.

(Sorry, I think that's all over the place)

[The-Macabre-One]

Do you work for Sulake? Your awfully defensive.

Considering Heidi Foster removed Jaeh's Habbo Hroup this morning due to it containing the words ClubTropica and it breaking their Terms & Conditions.

Again, I'm just repeating myself here. However I shall continue to express my opinions and feelings. Sulake Oy have created a invitational game, you have to be honest it's addictive for the majority of users of the minority. Yes, I'll blatantly admit that Sulake can often be money grabbing, and the same scenario applies for all competitive companies whom are reputable and built upon a status image.

However, you see professionals companies and enterprises build up gradually, investing to get a better outcome in general, by the means of an higher gross profit and revenue. However Sulake Oy have invested from day one, putting allot of capital in to the business not knowing if they'd succeed or struggle to strive. Yet, they've done well and they've become successful and opened up more than sixteen Habbo Hotels world wide.

When Sulake first started, they didn't go on other MMORPG Sites and flaunt they're new project, "Habbo Hotel". They did market research prior to it's opening, invest in website advertisement and write articles in magazines about they're new franchised product. In comparison ClubTropica, they've done the opposite and there's no point in denying it. They've used existing Habbo communities and fansites were a large majority of existing Habbo Users dwell, and target that majority to recruit.

In terms of business, I understand it's competitive and that company's must go to allot of extents to strive to succeed. However there are appropriate methods, and professional methods to go about it without interfering with other business, such as Sulake. Even if Sulake consist of an high revenue! (5.5million or more) it's still not the point! Give that empathy, IF you owned Sulake! and they started using your products i.e. Habbo Hotel to advertise for free, and steal a source of profits then I'm sure you'd want some form of action to be taken.

All Sulake has done is remove a group, and perhaps encouraged in-game Moderator's to change users missions from ClubTropica. I understand that Sulake will take further precaution in the future by blocking keywords using the Bobbafilter to discourage users from leaving Habbo, and I support Sulake all the way. Sulake are still working on interventional methods to keep users occupied, it costs allot of money for lingo developers, emulation development, website development, and graphics development to introduce new furniture, features to keep users happy. These things take time, and allot of beta testing prior to the release. For ClubTropica to come and persuade existing Habbo users in a rather cunning, and manipulative way by word of mouth, without having to even pay a penny for advertising on here is cunning. Some user's can't see they're strategy, but you must look at things more logical.

[The-Macabre-One]

[Double Post - Sorry]

[The-Macabre-One]

LOL!
That's a bit... sad don't you think?
But anyway, why make fansites for a game that hasn't even been launched yet? :S It's more ideal to make a fansite for a game AFTER it's been released!

I know of another game that has been around for about 5 years, and since a competitor came around, its popularity dropped like Rik Waller falling off the Clifton Suspension Bridge.
However, the game has resurged into popularity after an online version of it was announced, and people have made fansites for it now.

So, if you don't want to go to Club Tropica, then don't!
If you do, then just go.

(Sorry, I think that's all over the place)

It isn't "sad" in any way. Diplomatically looking in to issues, and seeing both ways and then debating them is one way of expressing yourself, and having your word! Else, if you don't express yourself, you'll let others choose and take you through there path.

So, if you don't want to go to Club Tropica, then don't!
If you do, then just go.

I'm not really holding no grudge against them, I'm not debating why users should GO to the site, or NOT GO. I'm just emphasising that ClubTropica has already set a grim expression in my eyes to they're potential market targeted users (you Habbox users).

I'm just looking at how they're already establishing them selves, already they're being unprofessional in many ways, and if they're already being unprofessional prior to them opening the site, then I'd not even like to imagine what it's going to be like when ClubTropica opens.

They've already announced the opening about 1 week prior, that's a rather late announcement. For advertisement purposes, well they're already taking advantage as I've stated in previous posts .


Edited by Yoshimitsui (Super Moderator): Please don't multiple post, simply edit your first.

[DPS]

Ok so now this is getting borin i hope sulake are scared because thay should be just wait and see

[JammieDodgers]

i thought callie left to travel the world.........

[Joord]

i thought callie left to travel the world.........

explor the world of the sandy beaches at club tropica duh

[JammieDodgers]

unluckily she didnt drown in da sea it luks like