Political Leaders

[Frodo13.]

Yeah.... if hiller hadnt been such a sicko and murdered
5 million minority groups,
6 million jews,
make the country think they were better then everyone else,
try and take over the world,

im sure he would of been a great politician.

Is that sarcasm?

[FlyingJesus]

Nah what I meant was that it's been a factory area mostly, always been mostly working class people, hence the Labour vote.

[Frodo13.]

Undertaker, why do the Torys need to go back to their old political beliefs when under New Conservative, they've been most likely to win an election since 97.

I must admit, even though I support Labour I prefer the New Tory ideas then the old ones.

[FlyingJesus]

New Conservative isn't particularly conservative (as in, with a little c and as a set of ideals), it's moved more to the left.

[Frodo13.]

Yeah, its deffo gone to the left abit, but I think old Conservative was a little bit past it. Lets not forget, Labour got voted in because they were all about modernising Britain, so moderisation must be what the British people want.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Undertaker, why do the Torys need to go back to their old political beliefs when under New Conservative, they've been most likely to win an election since 97.

I must admit, even though I support Labour I prefer the New Tory ideas then the old ones.

Howard actually got more votes which means he was more wanted by the people of this country than Blair but thanks to our wrong voting system he didn't get government.

Yeah, its deffo gone to the left abit, but I think old Conservative was a little bit past it. Lets not forget, Labour got voted in because they were all about modernising Britain, so moderisation must be what the British people want.

Old conservatism is what this country needs, we don't need red tape and EU crap. Labour said they were for modernising Britain and they said a lot of other things too yet we were lied to.

[FlyingJesus]

Aye at the time it was wanted, also John Major was useless so people just wanted to be rid of him. However, recently I think most people have more conservative views, especially on immigration and the EU.

[Frodo13.]

Howard actually got more votes which means he was more wanted by the people of this country than Blair but thanks to our wrong voting system he didn't get government.

Yes, he was wanted more then Blair in ENGLAND, but as Im sure your aware, our Government applies for the whole of the UK, so Labour was rightly voted back in. Its just the same as saying Blair was more wanted then Howard in Scotland...it has no significance. Oh, and we dont vote for our PM, we vote for a party...

[Virgin Mary]

Yeah, its deffo gone to the left abit, but I think old Conservative was a little bit past it. Lets not forget, Labour got voted in because they were all about modernising Britain, so moderisation must be what the British people want.

Modernisation in political terms means giving up any identity and/or power as a nation.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Aye at the time it was wanted, also John Major was useless so people just wanted to be rid of him. However, recently I think most people have more conservative views, especially on immigration and the EU.

I think John Major was very 'useless' to put it simple, I agree and that's why I think a revolution will come to our country if things carry on the way they are. People are sick of the EU control already and are sick of Labour letting the world flood into our country.

Yes, he was wanted more then Blair in ENGLAND, but as Im sure your aware, our Government applies for the whole of the UK, so Labour was rightly voted back in. Its just the same as saying Blair was more wanted then Howard in Scotland...it has no significance. Oh, and we dont vote for our PM, we vote for a party...

I am English and stand for English beliefs, it is stupid that the scottish get their own parliament and English MP's don't get a say in that, yet England doesn't get a Parliament and the Scottish can vote on OUR issues. So I don't see Labour as the true government at all, it got into power based on a system of unfairness to the English people whom are the majority of the Kingdom. I know we vote for partys, no need to tell me and as far as i'm aware I didn't bring up that?

Modernisation in political terms means giving up any identity and/or power as a nation.

That puts Labour into a simple few words, +rep