Private Military Companies

[Mandez]

yeah well anyway, after your 14 page essay on what you think,
i still think we should just bring them home, and im sure the majority of the country want them back aswell.
you talk as if you have been in the army and know what is going on over there,
but realistically your just a trainnee policeman dont pretend you know about the millitary,
your views are kinda strange, tbh id rather have some mercenaries out there dying for money and have our army back over here, yeah you join the army to go to war, but its stupid having an army getting killed for no reason, we can pull out of Iraq now, so we should and stop people dying.

[Jinc]

The last time conscription was used in Britain, men and women under the age of 21 were not allowed the vote. They had far fewer rights than people of the same age to today. It was this age group that was targetted for consciption back in WW2, so it's unlikely that the government would be so successful if they tried it again today.

[Mandez]

whats err conscription got to do with anything?

[Jinc]

Sorry, my post is a response to the one EwfrGomulee posted before yours. He mentioned it..

[Mandez]

oh ok then.

[Technologic]

I think if we ****** up the middle east we are kinda obliged to fix it...

[-:Undertaker:-]

-:Undertaker:-, what does that have to do with the topic? Please don't try to turn this into a thread about the moralities of invading Iraq... yet another chance for you to make a BNP reference.

Anyway..
The growing Iraqi army actually out-numbers the number of US and British troops currently stationed in Iraq. You seem to have completely exaggerated what little fact you have..
The last major presence of 'Mercenaries' in Iraq was 2004. Private companies located in the major cities in Iraq wanted to protect thier employees, as it was feared that the presence of both US troops and extremists would put them in danger.
Although the extensive coverage of military operations in the media distorts the public's view of order in Iraq and Afghanistan, the governments have strengthened considerably recently. I am doubtful as to whether these 'mercenaries' can really cause a continuing problem in the country. They certainly will not be able to 'run the place' once our troops are gone.

Yet another example of a person tricked into believing the BNP are racist, you go on their website and find me anythign racist on there please. The Iraqi Government is still incredibly weak and is held up by the Allies, Iraqis now have no water, not enough food and business is slowing down and terrorists have now made Iraq their home, the Iraqi Government has NO CONTROL.

When I said ''run the place'' I did not quite mean literally.

Also to answer some other people who think showing Soldiers the respect they deserve.
Yes I AM a Civilian however most of my family have served Queen and Country.
For this reason I feel I SHOULD always greet Soldiers in a friendly manner and show them some respect.

After all, I'd rather be ''an ideot civilian who salutes soldiers'' than be some annoying little rodent child who thinks gangsters are cool.

There is no real estimate by any government or agencies when it comes to the number of private soldiers in the Middle East.
There are companies who are open about their operations and some we do not even know exist.

To add, I am NOT a Police Officer. I am, however training to become a Police Officer.
What I do as a Civilian is Voluntary Street Patrol, this does not include Police duties such as stop, search or arrests.
Simply a visual crime deterrant.

Back to the topic:
as I stated before, Saddam was actually putting people down wells full of dead rotting corpses and leaving them there to die.
Anyone who opposed him would suddenly dissapear.
I hate mindless killing as much as the next person but if highly trained officials beleive we are under threat then they have a duty to take action for the safety of the country.

You cannot blame people for a mistake, obviously there was a threat there otherwise we would not have decided to tody along with America.
Also, you're false. Only if you sign up for specific trades within the airforce, army and navy do you get a choice as you if you go out into combat however if you're called upon by your government to go into combat you WILL have to go.
Royal Military Police serve as frontline troops in Iraq
Royal Air Force Police Guard bases in Iraq with the possibility of being attacked.
Also, if you're not interested in the defence of your country when you join the Military, which ever trade you choose to go into, why join? what is the point?.

There is NO point in signing up for being in the Infantry and then stating that you're a Pacifist or against the war.
You signed the dotted line and now you have to obey your orders.
As for outright refusing to go? have you ever been courtmarshalled? have you spent time in a Military prison?

Military courtmarshall is not a leniant as Civilian court.
Oh and to those of you unable to come up with any argument other than ''YOU STOOPID'' please do not bother posting. It's a waste of my ADSL speed.

I have never read about Saddam putting people down wells full of corpses so if you can find some evidence it would be nice. Even if he did, look at Iraq then and today, then they had water, food, western liberties, western clothes and security, now they have none of them. There WAS NO THREAT to us, Saddam posssed no Nuclear, Chemical or Biological weapons so you are talking complete CRAP there. If you watch Farenheit 9/11 a American Solider was talking Moore and he refused to go back to Iraq to kill innocent people, if people stood by their morals then we'd never have invaded Iraq.

[Jinc]

Yet another example of a person tricked into believing the BNP are racist, you go on their website and find me anythign racist on there please. The Iraqi Government is still incredibly weak and is held up by the Allies, Iraqis now have no water, not enough food and business is slowing down and terrorists have now made Iraq their home, the Iraqi Government has NO CONTROL.

I don't know if you're stupid or just plain arrogant.
Where in my post did I imply that I think the BNP are a racist party? Once again, you confront any mention of your support for the BNP by accusing people of thinking they're racist.

Also, why on earth would they post any content on the website which suggests they are a racist party? This thread isn't the place for me to state my views on the party, but whether they are racist or not, they arn't going to upload blatantly racist information on the website- its not exactly going to get them votes.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I don't know if you're stupid or just plain arrogant.
Where in my post did I imply that I think the BNP are a racist party? Once again, you confront any mention of your support for the BNP by accusing people of thinking they're racist.

Also, why on earth would they post any content on the website which suggests they are a racist party? This thread isn't the place for me to state my views on the party, but whether they are racist or not, they arn't going to upload blatantly racist information on the website- its not exactly going to get them votes.

If I mentioned the Conservative Party then you woudn't have said anything on my saying Conservative. Oh ok let's assume the BNP are racist :rolleyes:

[Frodo13.]

If I mentioned the Conservative Party then you woudn't have said anything on my saying Conservative. Oh ok let's assume the BNP are racist :rolleyes:

The BNP is racist. A undercover journalist once went to work for the BNP, and they would be tell its members not to say racist things in public, but would talk racist amongst themselves privatly.