Regarding the Reputation Issue

[Soy]

What the hell, your on a completely different thing, i'm not sure if you read my thing, but how is this "pointless rep" thing helping..

WHAT WE REALLY WANT

I'm sure more people want their rep power, then pointless rep, yeah.. pointless rep is a problem, but thats not what people are caring about right now.

There were other soulutions that could have been put in place, but you took the easy way out, which angered everyone.

Good job management

Yeah, like the others i want the rep system back as it was. And then to tackle the pointless reputation issue.

I myself used to spread pointless rep and overall i believe i got two infractions, over 100 rep points removed and a countless number of warnings.
And i don't blame all of this on myself, i have to blame a small percentage of my rule breaking to the staff, simply because the rules are almost hidden and not stressed enough.

A good aim for the forum staff is to try and stress this rule & other rules alot more

Thanks,
ODT

[Superman]

I'm going to write a detailed response in my thread that you can get to through my sig shortly, so that (and yes, I'm being elitist/egotistical/whatever) my intelligent response doesn't get drowned out by idiots. What I am going to say just here, so that people see it, is that the idea in red is a bad idea. Any -rep can be reported as pointless and generally if you just scream "revenge rep!!!1" or "they just don't like me" it'll be deleted as such. Consequently, people would lose a lot of rep by -repping people for what may be genuine reasons.

Please people, have a brain and vote "no". Also if you succeed in getting a brain, stop with the ridiculous posting of hatred and let those who are better equipped for an argument handle it - otherwise you're just making it worse.

[Mr.OSH]

if they choose to do that then so be it.
stop messing round with our accounts.

It is however unfair on those who work hard for their reputation and earn it properly if other gain it unfairly by adding reputation to each others accounts. The reputations system is there to show who is the most helpful, the nicest and who writes the best posts. The system is not there to see who has the most friends with high rep counts? This just ruins the whole system and by scaling it down as it has been done it will prevent that from happening and will still allow those who wish to earn high reputation levels fairly the opportunity to do that. As I've said more than once no one has *lost* anything, the reputation power has just been scaled down to prevent further abuse of it and to stop it from being abused by certain members.

Yeah, like the others i want the rep system back as it was. And then to tackle the pointless reputation issue.

I myself used to spread pointless rep and overall i believe i got two infractions, over 100 rep points removed and a countless number of warnings.
And i don't blame all of this on myself, i have to blame a small percentage of my rule breaking to the staff, simply because the rules are almost hidden and not stressed enough.

A good aim for the forum staff is to try and stress this rule & other rules alot more

Thanks,
ODT

Infractions should stress the rules enough, we issue them so it reminds you to abide by the rules to avoid being banned. If you continue to break rules and choose to ignore these warnings then we are forced to take action against you. It is as simple as this - don't give out pointless reputation. Use the system the way it should be used and rep good posts or people who have helped you or perhaps done something good, don't just give them reputation because they asked you or because you are friends with them, that isn't the way it should be used.

[jrh2002]

Well I never -rep but my rep power of 26 (which was all earned except for that for buying VIP) was also a great tool for encouraging new members who had made a very good post and if what you are saying is true then its only admin that rep for a good reason? Most of the members here have never abused the rep system but under this new system we all suffer. I am not that bothered really but it is very de-motivating.

No lots of people rep properly but there are also lots who don't.
Personally I think everybody should have 1 rep point after 100 posts (including admin) then it goes up once every 6 months on the forum.
Nobody would get extra rep power for number of posts or reputation amount even though by the value of their rep we get some idea of their status instead of by the amount of green blocks they have.

[Dentafrice,]

Hmm thats a good idea JRH

[e5]

I bet what you said in the end was "lets try it and see their reaction". I just sense that. Anyway good post by NVR but I still don't see why you are this bothered about rep to change the WHOLE system almost completly.

[Jordy]

I honestly don't think there is much of a issue with the old system. I have agreed to the idea in the red bit, however I would much rather go back to the old system.

On Friday I pointlessly repped someone for whatever reason, I forgot now, I'm not even sure if it was negative or positive. On Saturday I received a PM from the good ol' 'rep manager' Nick - What he did was remove all the positive pointless rep I'd received over the past month, and I think there was about 120 points worth of positive reputation took away. As people had been returning rep and spreading rep on me, which isn't really my fault, however I did deserve punishment for pointless repping someone, so I don't really mind. I think that system works fine and I won't pointless rep people again, and I do regret doing it, if that system isn't harsh enough, then make it more harsh, look back on 60 days or something? Bring back the old system and use the old punishments, and make them harsher if need be. Consider resetting people's rep entirely if they ignore the warnings.

[Yoshimitsui]

to be honest, you should stop fooling around with rep, and train these good for nothing moderators.

Moderators have nothing whatsoever to do with rep, the only people who can view it and modifiy it are Admins provided they have permissions to do that in the Controll pannel.

I agree on the fact it was getting way out of hand. So say that this system that you mentioned in red it put in place, would this take effect with the current reputation change? Or would it go back to normal but with more severe punishments.

I think that rep power should be scrapped from gaining a certain ammount of posts. As people post anything and everything around the forum, and with lots of members having so many posts. Then change the reputation power increse to double the ammount it was before and leave it there. That way it wouldant have an over dramatic effect like i believe it has now.

This way it could be more copeable.

[Smits]

So say that this system that you mentioned in red it put in place, would this take effect with the current reputation change? Or would it go back to normal but with more severe punishments

Yeh, i was wondering the same.

[Neversoft]

Oh yeah, and coincidentally you might consider how lucky you are. Since probably in total thousands of power were removed across the forum, tens of thousands of rep points should have been lost. People who got only three reps from neversoft should have lost about 100 points just from that. (And, no matter what you think, we weren't targeting you specifically )

If people only got 100 rep removed for me repping them 3 times, they would have still walked away with +68 rep.