One Man Show....

[jrh2002]

Exactly. I too have strong admiration for jrh as he is about the only decent and trully honest admin on here. He speaks his mind trully and does what is good for the welfare of the forum users - not himself.

Jrh for general manager!

Lol No Chance I could not run such a big community unless I was the owner and what I said would go like it or not. Whatever you say about Mad all the management had input on the new system and all the changes were run past Sierk before they were put into action. I know people are not happy with the changes but we all believed it needed to be altered and this was the fairest way. Oh if I was still the owner of such a big community and it was non profit making like HxF I would have closed it down a long time ago because at times its more trouble to run than its worth the place is meant to be for discussions and not have everybody crying over green blocks

[Antony]

Jrh is always honest and thats the management we need, not ones that hide on invisible mode and just replying to sections they feel they can reply to. MAD knows the majority of the community on the forum don't like him, so why doesn't he just pack it in?

whats the point in a council if decisions are made, and MAD doesn't like them or see's something wrong with it, would it be implemented or any change happen? I doubt it.

[jrh2002]

whats the point in a council if decisions are made, and MAD doesn't like them or see's something wrong with it, would it be implemented or any change happen? I doubt it.

The council would all discuss an idea until it was agreed. the council would be made up of management and members and I am sure Mad would have to be on the council for it to work. It will be a bit like the house of commons without the drunks and at the end of the day Mad could decide for or against something just like the priminister does but its all about compromise on issues not a yes or no.

[Mr.OSH]

The council would all discuss an idea until it was agreed. the council would be made up of management and members and I am sure Mad would have to be on the council for it to work. It will be a bit like the house of commons without the drunks and at the end of the day Mad could decide for or against something just like the priminister does but its all about compromise on issues not a yes or no.

Indeed, at the end of the day someone has to draw the line and make decisions and people will not always agree with the decisions. Community communication and input is defiantly needed but MAD has to make the decisions at the end of the day, it is his job after all to do that but that doesn't mean to say that the members can't have a say, which I feel they do have the opportunity to express their opinions at this time but I'm sure if a council did work it would improve this side of Habbox considerably but if it would work properly, I really have doubts with that but I'd love to see it become successful.

[Lycan]

Indeed, at the end of the day someone has to draw the line and make decisions and people will not always agree with the decisions. Community communication and input is defiantly needed but MAD has to make the decisions at the end of the day, it is his job after all to do that but that doesn't mean to say that the members can't have a say, which I feel they do have the opportunity to express their opinions at this time but I'm sure if a council did work it would improve this side of Habbox considerably but if it would work properly, I really have doubts with that but I'd love to see it become successful.

But at the end of the day surely if a majority of the forum dislike the change then its not in the forum members best intrests for it to happen, otherwise things are simply changing for the sake of changing and the members have to deal with basicly what the management would like to see,

ok thats probebly fair enough when written down on paper that thoose who run get to decide but i was under the influence that a community forum was built up by its members who modeled the forum and that the staff served the members to make their lives easier for example moderation of posts to remove bullying and such and not to in this case control the members and to go against what the majority want

So at the end of the day is it not just not in the best intrests of the forum but in the best intrests of thoose who call themselves incharge?

[Catzsy]

Indeed, at the end of the day someone has to draw the line and make decisions and people will not always agree with the decisions. Community communication and input is defiantly needed but MAD has to make the decisions at the end of the day, it is his job after all to do that but that doesn't mean to say that the members can't have a say, which I feel they do have the opportunity to express their opinions at this time but I'm sure if a council did work it would improve this side of Habbox considerably but if it would work properly, I really have doubts with that but I'd love to see it become successful.

Totally agree Jay and nothing would be lost if it didn't work.At least we would know it didn't and move on if it was disbanded after a trial. There is nothing to fear but fear itself they say and playing safe can lead to a very stagnant situation indeed. I do think the whole reputation debate would have been avoided if the Council had been operating and although JRH is a great Admin there are many more positive Admin and management and staff who all have the best interests of Habbox and the members at heart including yourself and they know who they are including Nvr and Joshuar who really took the idea onboard.


Quoted by Superman
Actually the comment was aimed at him moving threads ^_^ it's already been explained and vouched by many that the big decisions are discussed as a group.

I think you ought to re-read this as you have misunderstood too. It was nothing to do with moving the thread it was a unilateral decision by one person to stop a very valid discussion because he had had enough 'feedback' therefore denying any other management having any imput. Totally nothing to do with moving the thread at all although I do disagree with the 'complaints/getting to hot to handle'feedback forum and that they should stay in the general feedback forum that discussion ended a long time ago

[jrh2002]

Totally agree Jay and nothing would be lost if it didn't work.At least we would know it didn't and move on if it was disbanded after a trial. There is nothing to fear but fear itself they say and playing safe can lead to a very stagnant situation indeed. I do think the whole reputation debate would have been avoided if the Council had been operating and although JRH is a great Admin there are many more positive Admin and management and staff who all have the best interests of Habbox and the members at heart including yourself and they know who they are including Nvr and Joshuar who really took the idea onboard.

You are right there are more positive admin and thats why if they agree with an idea that I don't I am willing to agree go along with it. I do like to be the one saying I told you so at the end of it though I usually speak from life experience and not just make stuff up as I go along like many of the people on here do. I am willing to offer my support and help for anything to try and make it work whatever my opinion and also am not so stubborn I can change my opinions over time.

[Superman]

All this anti-MAD stuff.. not meaning to look like I enjoy the taste of his backside but he doesn't actually do anything that bad. He's made mistakes, such as with the staff problems a few months back and of course just recently with the rep, but generally the forum works. I've never been a member of staff here let alone high management so I don't know for certain how decisions are made, but it's surely within his rights as big boss man to have a strong say in what goes on - not saying that he should disregard everyone elses opinions, just that he has a more valid claim to mandate than most. I have no problem on a personal level with any members of management and any disputes are only over opinion really.

Yeah it would be nice if everyone was involved equally, but things don't work like that and not everyone is as well-equipped to make decisions as others might be. The internet might be an escape from reality in a sense, but it still can't break the laws of human nature, which is why there needs to be some level of corruption everywhere, why not everything can be "nice", and in relation to recent events, why the reasons given for the change in reputation do not hold up. Disagree if you will (and I'm sure many will) but I'm just speaking from the viewpoint of how things really work.

[Catzsy]

All this anti-MAD stuff.. not meaning to look like I enjoy the taste of his backside but he doesn't actually do anything that bad. He's made mistakes, such as with the staff problems a few months back and of course just recently with the rep, but generally the forum works. I've never been a member of staff here let alone high management so I don't know for certain how decisions are made, but it's surely within his rights as big boss man to have a strong say in what goes on - not saying that he should disregard everyone elses opinions, just that he has a more valid claim to mandate than most. I have no problem on a personal level with any members of management and any disputes are only over opinion really.

Yeah it would be nice if everyone was involved equally, but things don't work like that and not everyone is as well-equipped to make decisions as others might be. The internet might be an escape from reality in a sense, but it still can't break the laws of human nature, which is why there needs to be some level of corruption everywhere, why not everything can be "nice", and in relation to recent events, why the reasons given for the change in reputation do not hold up. Disagree if you will (and I'm sure many will) but I'm just speaking from the viewpoint of how things really work.

You know Tom there is nothing anti-Mad. It is not a personal thing. He is the GM so is accountable and responsible for the whole forum/site therefore the responsibility and accountability of his decisions are open to question and to keep the forum happy and motivated is his job. It is some of these that are being disagreed with and his selective replies to posts not him personally. I really get fed up with no answers - Bog off is better than just letting the whole forum debate something for days in a mostly constructive way and then it just disappears into the mists of time. The Habbox Council debate for example. It is not only infuriating it is a bit disrepectful to the membership and staff who have made the effort to debate something. He does have a very onerous job I agree but he ageed to do it.

I do totally disagree though there needs to be levels of corruption anywhere
though and I think most people are intelligent enough to realise that not everything can go your way

[GommeInc]

If he doesn't reply to threads, he probably doesn't have the time. If he doesn't have them time, he shouldn't have the job, to be frank. We make this forum. It's one of the major things about a fansite forum; To make members and keep those members, which can be broken down to keeping them happy and making them know they are a valued part of the forum. This is starting to not become the case. We don't get told anything, not many people are happy (e.g. rules, rep system) and loads of staff are saying adminsitractors and super moderators are the important thing to this forum, because they make it work. Errrm, without members you wouldn't have those jobs :rolleyes: