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[Mr.OSH]

Took a while to read that long essay with squinted eyes but I 110percent agree with you. If you compare MAD to management on other sites/forums you will see that he is spectacular.

And No I am no I am not brown nosing. It is simply my opinion which I am entitled to.

I think the issue is it isn't always easy to see how much effort people are putting in and it is so easy just to blame the person in charge when things don't go the way you would like them too even though these decisions are joint decisions and are taken into consideration for time. MAD wouldn't be the general manager if he made spur of the moment decisions without consulting others. Also the changes to the reputation system required planning for AGM's and administrators so really blaming MAD isn't exactly justified. Anyway I do think the behaviour of some members is getting a bit silly.

On another note, sorry about my writing, I like size 1 font.

[GommeInc]

I agree the reputation fiasco we a bit pathetic with banners and Habbo riots :rolleyes:

And that people who spam are idiots and ruin it for the rest of us who like to complain a lot, and infact serve no purpose but to give management more reasons to get annoyed.

But MAD's biggest problem is that he doesn't come across as very friendly, he talks down to you with very, almost robotic phrases, that don't come across with the right feeling. If MAD talked to us a little bit more like people, as opposed to forum members (yes I know we are) he probably would recieve less abuse.

The bit in bold changed to 'people who he believes are stupid' then remove the brackets and the text inside them.

[Favourtism]

I agree the reputation fiasco we a bit pathetic with banners and Habbo riots :rolleyes:

And that people who spam are idiots and ruin it for the rest of us who like to complain a lot, and infact serve no purpose but to give management more reasons to get annoyed.

But MAD's biggest problem is that he doesn't come across as very friendly, he talks down to you with very, almost robotic phrases, that don't come across with the right feeling. If MAD talked to us a little bit more like people, as opposed to forum members (yes I know we are) he probably would recieve less abuse.

He is just trying to be proffessional. It doesn't look to good if:

YUR GM SPEKS LIKE DIS INNIT LOLZ. I AM MA DAND RUN TEH HABBX, GIVE ME UR CHEESE

Although I see where your coming from. Other Gms and a more relaxed approach and everyone loves them depsite them having just as much say in decisions as Mad. Take nvr and joshuar and Jrh as an example.

[GommeInc]

I think the issue is it isn't always easy to see how much effort people are putting in and it is so easy just to blame the person in charge when things don't go the way you would like them too even though these decisions are joint decisions and are taken into consideration for time. MAD wouldn't be the general manager if he made spur of the moment decisions without consulting others. Also the changes to the reputation system required planning for AGM's and administrators so really blaming MAD isn't exactly justified. Anyway I do think the behaviour of some members is getting a bit silly.

On another note, sorry about my writing, I like size 1 font.

As GM, it is his job to take the blame, otherwise he would have the title as role leader, telling people what to do or better yet, content manager. If he can't take the criticism, there is a perfectly good door to walk out of and give the title of GM to someone who knows how to keep a wide audience happy...

He is just trying to be proffessional. It doesn't look to good if:

YUR GM SPEKS LIKE DIS INNIT LOLZ. I AM MA DAND RUN TEH HABBX, GIVE ME UR CHEESE

Although I see where your coming from. Other Gms and a more relaxed approach and everyone loves them depsite them having just as much say in decisions as Mad. Take nvr and joshuar and Jrh as an example.

Actually, being professional is being down to earth and talking like a person. Talking like a robot is being an automatic reply unit :rolleyes:

[Jamesy]

He is just trying to be proffessional. It doesn't look to good if:

YUR GM SPEKS LIKE DIS INNIT LOLZ. I AM MA DAND RUN TEH HABBX, GIVE ME UR CHEESE

Although I see where your coming from. Other Gms and a more relaxed approach and everyone loves them depsite them having just as much say in decisions as Mad. Take nvr and joshuar and Jrh as an example.

Only spammers talk like that on here, there's staying professional and being downright inhuman. He is the latter. It would be nice if he could be friendly, as opposed to seeming like he has a large object up a dark place.

[Mr.OSH]

As GM, it is his job to take the blame, otherwise he would have the title as role leader, telling people what to do or better yet, content manager. If he can't take the criticism, there is a perfectly good door to walk out of and give the title of GM to someone who knows how to keep a wide audience happy...

When things go badly wrong then I'm sure MAD would take the blame but there is simply nothing to take the blame for as he has carried about decisions with the AGM's that they all feel in the long run will benefit the forum. There are enough people who see MAD's efforts who feel he is more than capable of running the community and that is why he got the job in the first place. People just put the blame for things they don't agree with on him and if he went by everyone's feelings the forum would be a mess. Of course listening to the public is of high importance but it is also very important to draw the line and made decisions and not let everyones opinions effect you when a decision has to be made. The reputation system couldn't be left the way it was and MAD and the AGM's made a decision that they feel will resolve the problem and will make the community better in the long run. By making these decisions that shows good management in itself. The (A)GM's do and should listen to the forum member's ideas but there always has to be someone to draw the line and when they do there will always be some who do not agree with the decisions being made.

[Mentor]

Say ClubHabboForum which gets over 300members a day- If you complain a few times or badmouth an admin then you are permed full stop. Habbox are very good about this but in my opinion need to clamp down. If theres a user which complains so much surely he wont mind being permed as he doesnt need to visit habboxforum if he thinks it is so bad.

Or, a less dense person may put 2 and 2 together and notice why people complain instead of leaving. Its because the like habbox. Im one of those people, i like habbox, its one of my favourite forums. Thats WHY, i complain when i think there's something wrong, and suggest things which i think it could need. Because doing so i can help to improve the community and make it better.
If i didnt like habbox, i wouldn't waste my time doing so now would i...
Clubhabboforum for instance, i dont give a danm about so really aint gonna both complaining there

Just wanted to clear that bit up

[Catzsy]

[QUOTE=Favourtism;4320937]Say ClubHabboForum which gets over 300members a day- If you complain a few times or badmouth an admin then you are permed full stop. Habbox are very good about this but in my opinion need to clamp down. If theres a user which complains so much surely he wont mind being permed as he doesnt need to visit habboxforum if he thinks it is so bad.

I have just checked the ClubHabbo rules and they are virtually the same as here. There is nothing anywhere that says if you complain a few times that you receieve a perm ban. Their rules also that members are entitled to state their opinions.

[Jamesy]

Or, a less dense person may put 2 and 2 together and notice why people complain instead of leaving. Its because the like habbox. Im one of those people, i like habbox, its one of my favourite forums. Thats WHY, i complain when i think there's something wrong, and suggest things which i think it could need. Because doing so i can help to improve the community and make it better.
If i didnt like habbox, i wouldn't waste my time doing so now would i...
Clubhabboforum for instance, i dont give a danm about so really aint gonna both complaining there

Just wanted to clear that bit up

Exactly, if nobody criticized anything (constructivly) we would have gotten nowhere, if someone hadn't said, you know, riding horses sucks lets find something better and went and made the car.

You can't say you can't do this if you don't like it go **** yourself because you are just telling the members to go away.

[QUOTE=Catzsy;4321007]

Say ClubHabboForum which gets over 300members a day- If you complain a few times or badmouth an admin then you are permed full stop. Habbox are very good about this but in my opinion need to clamp down. If theres a user which complains so much surely he wont mind being permed as he doesnt need to visit habboxforum if he thinks it is so bad.

I have just checked the ClubHabbo rules and they are virtually the same as here. There is nothing anywhere that says if you complain a few times that you receieve a perm ban. Their rules also that members are entitled to state their opinions.

You can go on aboust other forums as much as you like favour, but this is habbox so they aren't really relevant.

[GommeInc]

When things go badly wrong then I'm sure MAD would take the blame but there is simply nothing to take the blame for as he has carried about decisions with the AGM's that they all feel in the long run will benefit the forum. There are enough people who see MAD's efforts who feel he is more than capable of running the community and that is why he got the job in the first place. People just put the blame for things they don't agree with on him and if he went by everyone's feelings the forum would be a mess. Of course listening to the public is of high importance but it is also very important to draw the line and made decisions and not let everyones opinions effect you when a decision has to be made. The reputation system couldn't be left the way it was and MAD and the AGM's made a decision that they feel will resolve the problem and will make the community better in the long run. By making these decisions that shows good management in itself. The (A)GM's do and should listen to the forum member's ideas but there always has to be someone to draw the line and when they do there will always be some who do not agree with the decisions being made.

Then why go with any decisions and just leave the forum as it is, he doesn't HAVE to touch anything. The rules didn't need about 10 add-ons, infact you can tell there used to be rules until someone came along and decided to add new bits and leave the old bits, so you get aload of contradictory words and just a mess in general. Although I've heard the rules are being changed, and hopefully all the daft ones I noted down have been removed. Granted decisions are meant to be made by the GM and AGMs, but you need to shed some light on proposed ideas incase a few clever members point out a proble. Afterall, who knows the forum best than the members? So if the new rule or featurew comes into play, you can laugh at the members and say "well you decided it" and if the disagreement carries on, put the feature back to the public vote.