Is it against the rules to break the law?

[The Professor]

Personally I'm inclined to side with Jay. I haven't read through the essays that people have posted, so if I repeat anything I apologise.

Habbox also "endorses breaking the law" by allowing WoW and runescape items/currency to be exchanged to real life money. It also allowed people to trade credits for rares, which habbo didn't like. It allows talking about illegal drugs, and some of the details involved in that such as how/where to get them. It steals copyrighted images from habbo.

What you have to remember is habbox is not the police. It is not habbox's job to enforce the law. The reason this forum exists is to give a group of kids a place to talk about things. In real life, kids talk about drugs and underage sex and illegal things all the time, telling each other links to websites and how they're going to do their next bit of weed. If kids are caught with weed or illegal copies of operating systems, the police are not going to go to the school and arrest them for endorsing discussion of illegal activity.

Obviously, this is a bit out of context, but the theory applies to the forum. Habbox already takes itself far too seriously as a forum, with ridiculous amounts of red tape and a complicated heirachy amongst other things. Trying to act as the police as well as forum management would only be adding to the problem.

EDIT: As for the rule about swearing overruling illegal activity, the swearing rule is in place to keep the forum pleasant, not to keep people from being arrested for swearing. That's like asking why there's a law against fraud when there's already a law against murder.

[Andys]

Why do you care?

[Catzsy]

Fair enough but it is a management decision at the end of the day, not mine or yours.



Well there is no endorsing as it isn't encouraged at all and also the actual copyrighted content is not hosted anywhere on the forum or in the database. Anything that was copyright would be externally hyper linked from the forum. The person hosting the copyrighted/illegal material is certainly breaking the law however Habbox is neither encouraging it or hosting it.

I can see what you mean but again I'm sure if there was a problem sierk would have taken action or if there is, I'm sure he will.



I'm sure that back ups are kept and that if the forum had to remove the content and move to another data center it would and it could be done without large amounts of hassle. As long as the site has its content stored somewhere offline and has the fund to move I wouldn't think the site would have a problem however I doubt it would ever get to that stage anyway as the issue would probably be able to be removed without shutting the site down if there was an issue to start with.

They don't actually give me a warning beforehand but it seems that Habbox would have contingency plans. I never agreed with the rule change as It seemed the forum 'lowered' its principles to this sort of thing when although Habbo is sacrosanct as I feel the Habbo element is getting less and less important these days.

[--ss--]

This is all quite pathetic seeing as Habbox didn't used to allow keygens and cracks to be posted but it was the users on here who wanted the rules changed and for them to be allowed so the management gave in and made the rules less strict , but now there's people complaining about something which isn't harming anyone and is helping everyone instead.

Also Sairth , your site;http://www.downloadbag.com/ is following the law now isn't it? Your site is completely based on illegal downloads and supports it.

If keygens and warez are to be disallowed again then shouldn't forums like yours be banned from being posted aswell?

[Catzsy]

This is all quite pathetic seeing as Habbox didn't used to allow keygens and cracks to be posted but it was the users on here who wanted the rules changed and for them to be allowed so the management gave in and made the rules less strict , but now there's people complaining about something which isn't harming anyone and is helping everyone instead.

Also Sairth , your site;http://www.downloadbag.com/ is following the law now isn't it? Your site is completely based on illegal downloads and supports it.

If keygens and warez are to be disallowed again then shouldn't forums like yours be banned from being posted aswell?

I don't remember a huge demand and quite a few of us were dead against it.
Also, breach of copyright is against the law so I guess then that's okay or am I just pathetic?

Also links can be virused with all sorts of inappropriate material which is frowned upon here.

[--ss--]

I don't remember a huge demand and quite a few of us were dead against it.
Also, breach of copyright is against the law so I guess then that's okay or am I just pathetic?

I wasn't aiming it about you in particular, i'm just saying people complained about not being able to post warez and now they're complaining about that , there's no pleasing some people .

[cunning]

That's crazy, even if they don't support but allow it, they're to blame?

[Catzsy]

I wasn't aiming it about you in particular, i'm just saying people complained about not being able to post warez and now they're complaining about that , there's no pleasing some people .

Well the forum isn't set in stone is it? I feel its a valid thread particuarly as enforcement procedures are becoming much more sophisticated than when the rules were introduced Its not as if this has been discussed much at all to my knowledge.

[Corporal]

EDIT: As for the rule about swearing overruling illegal activity, the swearing rule is in place to keep the forum pleasant, not to keep people from being arrested for swearing. That's like asking why there's a law against fraud when there's already a law against murder.

How is it?:s

[The Professor]

Because they are there for different reasons. Personally I'd put the enjoyability of being on the forums before whatever legal rules you wish to place.