Moderation Changes Cont.

[DaveTaylor]

The main reason we decided not to send pms with warnings because we wanted them to act kinda like usernotes but automatically logged etc as people seem to prefer usernotes to infractions although I will never understand why. Now it seems when we make this change, people want it the other way. Theres no winning in these sort of battles to be frank.

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[today]

I perfer not having to send pms to users as sometimes the abuse you got back was harsh.

[---MAD---]

I perfer not having to send pms to users as sometimes the abuse you got back was harsh.

In all honesty I wouldn't use that as the excuse as we can just deal with those users appropriately.

Please read my reply on the bottom of page 17 .

[MissAlice]

I perfer not having to send pms to users as sometimes the abuse you got back was harsh.

Then in my opinion you should forward that pm to admin, where they can deal with it, and take further action.

[jrh2002]

The main reason we decided not to send pms with warnings because we wanted them to act kinda like user notes but automatically logged etc as people seem to prefer user notes to infractions although I will never understand why. Now it seems when we make this change, people want it the other way. Theres no winning in these sort of battles to be frank.

It's a bit like the filter. People complain we were too strict with it. We removed ***** and piss and people complained it should be added back to the filter. Its also the same with the rule about posting serial keys etc. Its a never ending battle here and sometimes we just have to decide which side to go with as its impossible to please everyone as you can see .

If people want a PM with warnings, we can do that I guess. It requires barely any effort from the moderators as they are automatically sent.

Also to those who say "just copy/paste this from notepad, takes 1 second!". You have to remember that these seconds/minutes adds up and also tasks like that get tidious. We try to make a mods life as easy as possible so that they continue to enjoy working on the forum and keeping the forums clean .

Saying "get new mods" or "get more mods" is hardly helpful. Finding good moderators that are active enough and understand the rules enough is no easy task. You can tell this by how long it takes sometimes for a moderator to settle in.

So you hear a few people want the infraction system changed you do it? you see a few wanting the filter relaxed you do it? Why do you not do a big forum poll so we can give out input in a vote and see what the majority want? I swear you make up half the stuff you come out with.
Oh you gave 5 warnings today so that adds up to 2 minutes of your life which could have been saved :s if they dont like wasting those 2 minutes then surely they dont deserve the job? If you listened more then you would still have a number of good mods who are no longer here due to being fired for taking action at being ignored.

I thought the users here were the priority and not you. How about ask in a poll if we want informing of warnings or not? i see no evidence that most the members dont like the current system? please provide public links please so i can see this for myself and then agree with you.

I agree the place needs to be stricter but like the rep system you decide whats what and just plough ahead without even considering the members who are what keeps hxf running.

I perfer not having to send pms to users as sometimes the abuse you got back was harsh.

Pathetic excuse. Get abused by a user who only has themself to blame for the warning then ban them or something not just run and hide

[Hazza]

If people want a PM with warnings, we can do that I guess. It requires barely any effort from the moderators as they are automatically sent.

Yes please - I also agree with everything else you said.
As for the managements 'never ending battle' you can't please everyone and I still believe the Piss and ***** situation should be reversed whereas others may not... Its life.

[jrh2002]

Yes please - I also agree with everything else you said.
As for the managements 'never ending battle' you can't please everyone and I still believe the Piss and ***** situation should be reversed whereas others may not... Its life.

be nice if it says you have a warning though and not an infraction for a warning like it currently does.

[GommeInc]

The main reason we decided not to send pms with warnings because we wanted them to act kinda like user notes but automatically logged etc as people seem to prefer user notes to infractions although I will never understand why. Now it seems when we make this change, people want it the other way. Theres no winning in these sort of battles to be frank.

It's because usernotes were hidden. Warnings are listed in the User CP and people would like to be told that they've got one and why. It's not quite got through to everyone that communcation between management and members is incredibly low, and taking the move to make it even lower won't earn you much respect.

It's a bit like the filter. People complain we were too strict with it. We removed ***** and piss and people complained it should be added back to the filter. Its also the same with the rule about posting serial keys etc. Its a never ending battle here and sometimes we just have to decide which side to go with as its impossible to please everyone as you can see .

The majority don't care about the words piss and *****, infact the whole discussions died out ages ago. They just don't understand why ***** was unfiltered, when dick was suggested and never did get unfiltered.

If people want a PM with warnings, we can do that I guess. It requires barely any effort from the moderators as they are automatically sent.

I suggest you do, because that was something that worked within the system.

One more thing I would like to add in is that if you follow the rules, there no way you would manage to get 5 infractions or 5 warnings. I myself use many forums and don't read the forum rules mainly because its all obvious. Most the forums have the same rules. Don't spam, dont be rude, respect other members, don't post inappropriate posts etc etc.

Some super mods, moderators and admins bend the rules to suit their needs. It's happened in the past and it could well happen in the future. They bend the rules and make any petty little thing a reason to warn someone. Some fail to read the whole story, which is harmless. They immediately see a small insult thrown at someone and warn whoever sent it, either though the receiver never got offended or the whole story of the insult was for humour reasons. It happens, it's called having a sense of humour. Something which died out before 8Freak8 (not saying he caused it).

[---MAD---]

So you hear a few people want the infraction system changed you do it? you see a few wanting the filter relaxed you do it? Why do you not do a big forum poll so we can give out input in a vote and see what the majority want? I swear you make up half the stuff you come out with.

A few people? We recieved loads and loads of complaints about it and still do. You forget you are not part of management and you don't see everything that happens . I find it quite rude and insulting the way you put that reply as that is that is complete non-sense. Please highlight anything else you swear I made up .

Also, in regards to the filter - if you check your poll, http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=458128, you will notice that many people disagree with you thinking piss is a swear word .

I agree the place needs to be stricter but like the rep system you decide whats what and just plough ahead without even considering the members who are what keeps hxf running.

The staff AND the members keep hxf running. Without the staff = no forum. Without the members = no forum.

Some super mods, moderators and admins bend the rules to suit their needs. It's happened in the past and it could well happen in the future. They bend the rules and make any petty little thing a reason to warn someone. Some fail to read the whole story, which is harmless. They immediately see a small insult thrown at someone and warn whoever sent it, either though the receiver never got offended or the whole story of the insult was for humour reasons. It happens, it's called having a sense of humour. Something which died out before 8Freak8 (not saying he caused it).

Please PM me links to any threads/posts where smods/mods/admins bent the rules to suit their needs and I will personally take care of it .

[today]

Then in my opinion you should forward that pm to admin, where they can deal with it, and take further action.

Which makes more work for them, which takes more time, which means they cant do other jobs... Great!

Pathetic excuse. Get abused by a user who only has themself to blame for the warning then ban them or something not just run and hide

I dont even bother reading your replies fully anymore, as all you ever do is moan these days. Get over it, Habbox is not perfect and never will be and honestly i dont want it to be either. Though you dont know the correct actions with users and such, as i said to MissAlice its yet more work which is not needed.

Now i wont reply here unless i need too.