University Fees

[Jbz-Hotboy.]

I would like to re-address this to everyone University is Optional YOU all act as if you have to go. LIFE IS UN-FAIR

[Supersam]

Its just life, thats what the Scottish Assembly decided ; they run Scotland and there Health-care, Education and Care for the Elderly, which are indeed free I heard.

Gordon Brown, can't afford in his other stretched budget to provide free university lessons which are only an Option
in this country to those who can afford it !

I can understand the Prime Minister can't provide millions of pounds to people wanting to go to an optional university

I can afford it as my family are rich

Life Is Un-Fair !

Your missing the point.

OUR government subsidise scotland.

That includes its healthcare and education.

We have free healthcare in this country available as without free healthcare many people would be unable to pay for the care needed.

We should not have to pay to go to university in England, N.Ireland or Wales if Scotland provide it free and WE pay taxes towards that.

We do NOT want to pay taxes for people in Scotland to have free education whilst we pay for it.

Its not "life" its wrong. The only reason we have to "get over it" is because we cannot vote to change it until we've already chosen our university and (in some cases) have already paid to go there.

And yes whilst university might be optional, that does not give the government the right to only allow those who can afford it to go when universities are funded by OUR taxes.... not just the taxes of the 'rich' people who can afford to go.

[JackBuddy]

I don't like the way that they encourage so many people to follow higher education as soon as tuition fees are removed. Oh, and I also don't like the way that foreign students sometimes have the advantage, as they pay up to 3x more than a british student. Anyway, I could rant about unis for hours so... i wont!
Oh, and for future reference; a scottish person has more money spent on them per head than an english person.
By the way, that was not against scottish people.

[Jbz-Hotboy.]

Well, University's are nothing to do with the gov.

And, what do you mean WE pay taxes ; Adults pay them for Healthcare, Schools, Bin Collection etc not for Optional University's

[JackBuddy]

The government used to pay for tuition fees.

[Barmi]

The government used to pay for tuition fees.

AFAIK, the government still subsidises tuition fees... just not the full fledged amount like they used to. Heck, some even got paid to go to uni! The problem there was that there would be many individuals applying for courses and then dropping out.

I can say quite safely that my parents will not be able to help me financially when I got to university in the autumn. Heck, even the money I'll be able to borrow will not be enough to fully cover my living costs, so I will be working (as I have over the past year) to make up the difference myself.

Going to university is a life-choice, and I see it having a huge impact on my future. Okay undoubtedly I'll have difficulty with money, but I don't see that as a hurdle at this point in time, and nor should it be.

And related to the topic: I'm 90% sure in Scotland there is some form of "graduation tax" paid to make the money back, only by the backdoor.

[Jinc]

Tbh Uni is a life experience, and you can't do anything quite like it without going. Not to mention the fact that it significantly increases your chances of getting a higher paid job in most cases.

[JackBuddy]

Tbh Uni is a life experience, and you can't do anything quite like it without going. Not to mention the fact that it significantly increases your chances of getting a higher paid job in most cases.

You have to find a higher paid job first- that's the problem.

[Supersam]

Well, University's are nothing to do with the gov.

And, what do you mean WE pay taxes ; Adults pay them for Healthcare, Schools, Bin Collection etc not for Optional University's

Everything in england has to do with the government.

WE pay taxes as in OUR parents have to pay. We should not have to pay for people in Scotland to go to Uni for free when we do not get the same treatmen.

University's may be 'optional' as you say - but they are still part of higher education.

The only reason Universitys are optional is because at 16 you cannot be forced to stay in education that is why people can leave before college. Now the government are trying to pay people to stay in higher education but not as far as University.

Its just stupid really.

[Jbz-Hotboy.]

Its not ares its the Scottish Assembly