Coding Community

[---MAD---]

If anyone has a question, they can use the three forums i supplied or private message coders or even create a thread, i mean if i wanted help i would want help from as many people as i could.

Exactly. A new member or a member that isn't a frequent user of the coding forums would not necessarily know who to PM. PMs are not public either meaning the reply the coder gave you will not help other people where as the replies in this forum may help other users.

This new forum limits the help as well lets face if, you have to be a member of the group to reply to threads (am i correct?) surly that will limit replies.

Which is exactly why the other forums are still there (like I explained in one of my earlier posts).

People STILL dont know about the Pixel Artist Group...

That's a different topic .

[today]

I do not like the idea, we may not approve of the members in the team therefore not request for there help. Making a website is not an average thing a typical teenager does, some see it as a chore for work. I do not agree with this, however if your forum is showing Dragon Fable advertisements (Animé orientated), I don't see the harm in adding and Animé forum into the graphics section. Although these are not Habbox staff but just 'dedicated coders', I do not see why they should get their own support thread.

It's easier said than done, lol



It shouldn't, infact it won't limit replies as I've already said we will ONLY be allowing dedicated members to be a part of the group and offer replies. I myself will be checking the Forum every day and I'm sure the other members of the group will aswell.

Sorry? Who says who is a decent coder? Surly people want to help others even if they are not extremely advanced themselves? So your pretty much saying you must be a advanced coder, what if your a new member and join? You'll get attacked like mad.

So you have to be popular to get in? Great.

Exactly. A new member or a member that isn't a frequent user of the coding forums would not necessarily know who to PM. PMs are not public either meaning the reply the coder gave you will not help other people where as the replies in this forum may help other users.

Which is exactly why the other forums are still there (like I explained in one of my earlier posts).

That's a different topic .

But its related, if you dont know about the pixel group people wont know about this group either.. And as Invent said not anyone can join, you'll get attacked if you do.
Lets face it all questions will be directed to that forum now, why? As people will want to look bigger and better to reply to threads.

It seems like a pointless idea to me.

[Invent]

Sorry? Who says who is a decent coder? Surly people want to help others even if they are not extremely advanced themselves? So your pretty much saying you must be a advanced coder, what if your a new member and join? You'll get attacked like mad.

If you're not advanced you can get help from the new forum and can offer help in the old forums.

Which is exactly the reason why the old forum(s) are staying!

So you have to be popular to get in? Great.

Definately not - this is not a popularity contest. You just have to know what you're doing, be trusted and also be respected within the community (by this I don't mean you have to be popular, I mean the community has to trust you and know you can help them).

[[Oli]]

No offence, but now you're just seeking for -any- alternative for the new forum, as if you'ld do anything to get rid of it..

What harm can it do to make 2 threads ? one in the normal forum where anyone can reply, (& pretty much reply whatever they want to say, incl. flaming)
and creating another in the new forum where you're sure the chosen people in the group will check the threads every day and will certainly reply with their knowledge.

Theres no harm in having 2 threads.. it only increases your chance of getting a (good) reply.

(It's not as if people HAVE to post in the new forum.. like I said, they may aswell create a topic in the main forum & the new one)

Then maybe you "webers" should make one big FAQ? or rename Tutorial forum to Tutorials and FAQ's ? Would be much better!

[today]

If you're not advanced you can get help from the new forum and can offer help in the old forums.

Which is exactly the reason why the old forum(s) are staying!

Definately not - this is not a popularity contest. You just have to know what you're doing, be trusted and also be respected within the community (by this I don't mean you have to be popular, I mean the community has to trust you and know you can help them).

But say a advanced coder joined the group who say was only a member for 5 days but knew alot of coding. You'll most probally judge him already thinking "oh great noob!" Lets face it we all do pretty much. I just think the new and old forum should be merged but keep the group, so people know.

No offence, but now you're just seeking for -any- alternative for the new forum, as if you'ld do anything to get rid of it..

What harm can it do to make 2 threads ? one in the normal forum where anyone can reply, (& pretty much reply whatever they want to say, incl. flaming)
and creating another in the new forum where you're sure the chosen people in the group will check the threads every day and will certainly reply with their knowledge.

Theres no harm in having 2 threads.. it only increases your chance of getting a (good) reply.

(It's not as if people HAVE to post in the new forum.. like I said, they may aswell create a topic in the main forum & the new one)

No, i like the idea of helping people which im guessing what MAD is trying to do, correct? Making two threads about the same thing, that will mean one being closed for same thread, it always happens. So thats a pointless suggestion.

[myke]

Me and MAD have been discussing the addition of the Coding Community all night. The main idea of it is to offer users a place to ask a question in a Forum where they know they will get a quick, correct and friendly reply.

It seemed to me that a lot of threads where users need help turn into flame wars (I'm sure management are working on fixing this problem) so I thought this would be a great help for the community. As you may remember, every time the forum "trolling" has come into a thread, members always say that the Web Development forums are one of the worst places where users get flamed for asking questions, etc.

This new Forum will be a great addition for members who need a quick or detailed reply and it will also serve as an archive for Web Development related FAQs.

I'm certain this Forum will be a great addition to the Web Dev. forums and will benefit it and the Forum's members in the long-run.

Also, the Forum 'Web Design & Coding Related Help' will still remain I think as a place where all members can contribute an answer and discuss the question asked where as the new Forum will specifically be for the answering of questions by the Coding Community Members.

that seems a bit vain imo?

& also, I think this is a silly addition: we have all the forums there as it is, this forum seems to be one for the members to say "YES, IM BETTER THAN YOU AT PHP, I CAN POST IN THIS FORUM AND HELP OTHERS" which I already get a lot of in the Web forums anyway.

& What's the point in having a group leader that's left?

[Invent]

But say a advanced coder joined the group who say was only a member for 5 days but knew alot of coding. You'll most probally judge him already thinking "oh great noob!" Lets face it we all do pretty much. I just think the new and old forum should be merged but keep the group, so people know.

Everyone who requests admission into the Coding Community group will be placed into a poll (we've just decided this) and then the community will be able to decide which users out of the poll (the top 5-6 or so) should get shortlisted to become a member of the group.

that seems a bit vain imo?

& also, I think this is a silly addition: we have all the forums there as it is, this forum seems to be one for the members to say "YES, IM BETTER THAN YOU AT PHP, I CAN POST IN THIS FORUM AND HELP OTHERS" which I already get a lot of in the Web forums anyway.

& What's the point in having a group leader that's left?

First I'm going to explain your final point I originally "left" the Forum due to the flaming and I couldn't be bothered with it. But after speaking to MAD tonight I feel this idea of ours will help combat the flaming/trolling and will make the forum a friendlier place. Also it's not about saying "YES, IM BETTER THAN YOU AT PHP, I CAN POST IN THIS FORUM AND HELP OTHERS" as I thought you would understand, thepoint of the Forum is to combat this.

All I can ask from you all at the moment is to see how the Forum works and if it fails THEN complain about it. But seeing as we haven't even been asked a question yet, you really can't complain how unneeded it is.

[[Oli]]

But say a advanced coder joined the group who say was only a member for 5 days but knew alot of coding. You'll most probally judge him already thinking "oh great noob!" Lets face it we all do pretty much. I just think the new and old forum should be merged but keep the group, so people know.


No, i like the idea of helping people which im guessing what MAD is trying to do, correct? Making two threads about the same thing, that will mean one being closed for same thread, it always happens. So thats a pointless suggestion.

How is it ?
You're not creating two EQUAL topics in THE SAME forum (which leads into 1 being closed)

It's basicly making one in the main forum to get help from anyone (but obviously with the risks of flames etc etc (not that it allways happends))
And one in the new forum, where you're sure to get a good reply.

Then it's upto you to chose which reply is most usefull to you.

[today]

that seems a bit vain imo?

& also, I think this is a silly addition: we have all the forums there as it is, this forum seems to be one for the members to say "YES, IM BETTER THAN YOU AT PHP, I CAN POST IN THIS FORUM AND HELP OTHERS" which I already get a lot of in the Web forums anyway.

& What's the point in having a group leader that's left?

Indeed

Everyone who requests admission into the Coding Community group will be placed into a poll (we've just decided this) and then the community will be able to decide which users out of the poll (the top 5-6 or so) should get shortlisted to become a member of the group.

Thats WORSE...

How is it ?
You're not creating two EQUAL topics in THE SAME forum (which leads into 1 being closed)

It's basicly making one in the main forum to get help from anyone (but obviously with the risks of flames etc etc (not that it allways happends))
And one in the new forum, where you're sure to get a good reply.

Then it's upto you to chose which reply is most usefull to you.

Anything which is regardiny the same gets closed we've all seen it.

Say i made two threads asking for help with the same php code error.

One would get closed and a edit with a link to another it ALWAYS happen..

[[Oli]]

Indeed

Thats WORSE...

Anything which is regardiny the same gets closed we've all seen it.

Say i made two threads asking for help with the same php code error.

One would get closed and a edit with a link to another it ALWAYS happen..

I haven't seen it happen (yet), but I guesse if you say so...