Phone on the plane

[Hazza]

I don't know why they have this rule because a friend of mine dad works on fixing the aircrafts and shizzle and he said there is no reason why you can't have it on - Its just for safety I think. Most rules are that you cannot use it. Hmmm, odd.

[GearsOfWar]

I don't know why they have this rule because a friend of mine dad works on fixing the aircrafts and shizzle and he said there is no reason why you can't have it on - Its just for safety I think. Most rules are that you cannot use it. Hmmm, odd.

It will mess up the radio transmittion and no one will be able to detect your plane, say you lose a signal and you're lost and don't know where to go, then you're pretty much screwed. You'll be flying around looking for a airport then you'll run out of petrol and that's not a good thing if that was to happen

[shizzle]

Weird, when I flew they let me keep mine on flight mode :S

My mum's Motorolla has flight mode which is basically "offline mode", I personally think it should be allowed.

[Hazza]

I'm only saying what an expert said. The planes fly themselves by the way, pilots are only there for safety (and take offs & landings).

[Recursion]

Actually, you won't loose the signal at 3000ft, you will get the best signal if you are over land as it is a clear path.

But because your moving so fast, it does put strain on the network as it gets confused.


And actually, it doesn't mess with the radar at all, radar is totally different. The phones actually don't interfere nowadays.

We have used all sorts with bluetooth, WiFi etc... still enabled with no problems.

[Hazza]

Actually, you won't loose the signal at 3000ft, you will get the best signal if you are over land as it is a clear path.

But because your moving so fast, it does put strain on the network as it gets confused.


And actually, it doesn't mess with the radar at all, radar is totally different. The phones actually don't interfere nowadays.

Thats what I was told!

[Recursion]

They mostly tell you to turn them off as you wouldn't want to here people shouting down the phone throughout the flight would you?

[Adam!]

It will mess up the radio transmittion and no one will be able to detect your plane, say you lose a signal and you're lost and don't know where to go, then you're pretty much screwed. You'll be flying around looking for a airport then you'll run out of petrol and that's not a good thing if that was to happen

Thats a little bit extreme... The worst case would be wrong indications from VOR/DME etc. As soon as the captain noticed and the device in question was turned off it would be sorted.

Pilots can fly an aircraft visually you know, they don't totally rely on instruments.

I'm only saying what an expert said. The planes fly themselves by the way, pilots are only there for safety (and take offs & landings).

Thats true, kind of, but pilots are of course able to fly without autopilot should it be required.

Actually, you won't loose the signal at 3000ft, you will get the best signal if you are over land as it is a clear path.

But because your moving so fast, it does put strain on the network as it gets confused.


And actually, it doesn't mess with the radar at all, radar is totally different. The phones actually don't interfere nowadays.

We have used all sorts with bluetooth, WiFi etc... still enabled with no problems.

Right... You try making a successful phone call at 3000ft after departure.. Landing is all fine and well, I've done it - But takeoff, you've got no chance

Someones being reading the VATUK forum

[Dentafrice]

Actually, you won't loose the signal at 3000ft, you will get the best signal if you are over land as it is a clear path.

But because your moving so fast, it does put strain on the network as it gets confused.


And actually, it doesn't mess with the radar at all, radar is totally different. The phones actually don't interfere nowadays.

We have used all sorts with bluetooth, WiFi etc... still enabled with no problems.

They are afraid it would mess with the radio, not the radar, essentially a cell phone is a "radio" device, as it works in the same way as a two way radio, rx tx.

The thing is though cell phones use a "reuse" channel approach, which means it grabs onto any radio channel it can find to try and transmit the signal, which means my cell phone could go through your cell phone which could go through another cell phone just to reach the tower.

That way a whole seperate channel is not used just to connect to the tower.

Plus you would certainly loose signal, as cell phones work as their names imply.. in cells.. and that combined with the reuse technology, flying pretty fast over the ground, would make you connect to cell after cell after cell, not like a normal person driving.

The signal doesn't go straight up from the towers, if you have noticed the towers have angle deflectors on them to shoot the signal out in the specific areas of the cell, as well as to aim towards other towers to transmit the data.

Hence why you loose service going up mountains until you reach the radial point of another tower.

So all in all, at 3000 feet your not going to get a signal. Maybe on landing.. but not midflight.

[superfly-dan]

I don't think you can, however some airlines allow you to have your mobile in flight mode.

which also brings me on... does that mean I have to have the Wi-Fi on my iPod switched off when I go to Egypt next Sunday?