Halal - Right or Wrong?

[-Eyeless-]

Of course they suffer for longer just like a human left bleeding to death from a major archery being cut open. I think most places use the bolt process which kills most animals instantly but the odd few dont die so would suffer but not every one.

Let me make it clear as long as the meat tastes nice i couldnt care if the animal was still squealing in the back of the resturant as long as they turned up the music. I just get fed up on double standards for everything and think that halal is a crueler way that is ignored compared to other things regarding animals that people stick their noses in.

Same question back at you, how do you know its painless?
The fact is, the animal dies slowly and painfully. I have seen videos etc and its just disgusting. I am not oversensitive, I am basing what I am saying on FACTS. The animals killed by KFCs etc are quick. They feel pain for a shorter duration.

Lets be fair guys if none of us have been experienced it then we can't really say that it does or doesn't hurt, but I will say that my uncle is a butcher and he said that there isn't much of a need for the bolt process as they MOSTLY die instantly but it is so that people feel better, I don't know if he can really be able to tell and thats all I can say really

[jrh2002]

Lets be fair guys if none of us have been experienced it then we can't really say that it does or doesn't hurt, but I will say that my uncle is a butcher and he said that there isn't much of a need for the bolt process as they MOSTLY die instantly but it is so that people feel better, I don't know if he can really be able to tell and thats all I can say really

try cutting your wrist and getting stitched up before you die and I imagine you would say that would hurt and even thinking about it you know it hurts. As far as I am aware all warm blooded animals feel pain and my uncles, second cousins wifes great grandad who works for the rspca says its bad but wont touch the issue to avoid being called racists.

Maybe this cow is getting some gas and air pain relief from the spray?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijn5e7DD2lc

[-Eyeless-]

That video doesn't prove anything you can't even tell if it is still alive. And no just cos its eyes are open doesn't mean its alive...

[jrh2002]

That video doesn't prove anything you can't even tell if it is still alive. And no just cos its eyes are open doesn't mean its alive...

you can see it moving and thats just barbaric way of doing it when theres more humane ways. its finally dead when it gets ejected hes checking if its dead just before. imagine being suffocated you dont die as soon as air is cut off and the same when losing blood. I will find the article of average death times for butchery when i get more time.

[-Eyeless-]

Just because he is moving doesn't mean he/she is alive either, if you do it "humanely" they move like that aswell.

[jrh2002]

Just because he is moving doesn't mean he/she is alive either, if you do it humanely they move like that aswell.

Of course they do but if you kill them with a bolt to the head its instant and humane and from your reply i highlighted you agree its not humane defeat your own case suits me

[-Eyeless-]

I don't agree, but it is considered humane so I used humane to describe it, but I have to go to sleep now, so if you want I will reply to your next comment tomorrow

EDIT: Actually I have put it in Inverted commas just to make you happy

[jrh2002]

I don't agree, but it is considered humane so I used humane to describe it, but I have to go to sleep now, so if you want I will reply to your next comment tomorrow

We all have our own views which might change over time so no point going on forever lol it would be a boring world if we all had the same opinions. :8

[Loser]

jrh2002, I don't think you understand the concept of Halal meat. Before you talk moron, ask yourself this: Why would there be specialised shops to buy tortured animals, when said Muslim could eat an animal from Sainsburys that wasn't tortured?

Answer: BECAUSE HALAL MEAT ISN'T FROM TORTURED ANIMALS

Sliced throat means instant death. Just because blood is still leaving the body, doesn't mean the animal is still alive.

Edited by lAscend (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't insult other forum members.

[-Eyeless-]

jrh2002, I don't think you understand the concept of Halal meat. Before you talk moron, ask yourself this: Why would there be specialised shops to buy tortured animals, when said Muslim could eat an animal from Sainsburys that wasn't tortured?

Answer: BECAUSE HALAL MEAT ISN'T FROM TORTURED ANIMALS

Sliced throat means instant death. Just because blood is still leaving the body, doesn't mean the animal is still alive.

LOL I love the bluntness but people are a bit stuborn sometimes, like me