Obama vs McCain

[dantheTSAR]

We are the country of freedom.. we are guaranteed five basic freedoms.. that our soldiers fight everyday for..

1. Freedom of Speech
2. Freedom of Religion
3. Freedom of the Press
4. Freedom of Assembly
5. Freedom to Petition the government.

Where in those five basic freedoms (which are declared in the first amendment of the constitution).. does it say that same-sex marriage is a given freedom?

It doesn't. So don't bring freedom into this.



I agree.. it should be where they can help them get out of the poverty stage.. and begin their part of the work force.

I think that disabled people need benefits too.. and should be supported.. but there's always those people that abuse that system by faking sickness, etc.

Just like the welfare system :\

I agree with you 100% on the fact that freedom doesn't mean total anarchy and no rules, with freedom comes responsibility and if the majority of america don't agree with gay marriage, their shouldn't be gay marriage.

I disagree with you over the 'fighting for freedom', i'm afraid the soliders are fighting an illegal war and they should be returned to their families as soon as possible, no should die for the mistakes and lies of the Bush Administration.

Hopefully America will do the right thing and vote for McCain and Palin! Obama is another do-gooders - wanting to back out of the war in Iraq!

In my opinion, even if he did become president, he wouldn't last long before he was killed.

Theres still a lot of racist states in america..

Your other point said that America should get revenge, revenge against whom exactly? - revenge against the Iraqi people and their country which was steadily being built up into a modern state before the George H Bush administration put sanctions on the nation, and then his son came along and blew the place up.

Afgahistan, well if we really went in their to get Bin Laden, why did coalition forces only enter the country 2 MONTHS after the twin towers were destroyed, as Michael Moore points out. The truth is that Afgahistan was a way to get the scared public behind the Bush Administration for what their real plan was, Iraq.

[DaveTaylor]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/ame...08/7693987.stm

McCain ftw.

I think he's reading that, yes I agree with that he's saying completely however he's not getting that from him head.

[scottish]

He's probably wrote it down before he read it.

[DaveTaylor]

He's probably wrote it down before he read it.

thats not his writing either I don't think

[scottish]

Will be, making it that obvious hes reading i doubt he'd go out publically and speak against half of america and obama reading someone else's speach lol.

[DaveTaylor]

Will be, making it that obvious hes reading i doubt he'd go out publically and speak against half of america and obama reading someone else's speach lol.

You have to remember alot of people will have the same views as him however thats professionally written

[scottish]

well, even if that is the case, i still 100% agree with him

[alexxxxx]

It's wrong to disrespect the soldiers of tha armed forces, i think everyone agrees on that. they work hard for their countries and put their lives in danger for their nation.

But to say that the USA and UK are going into Iraq and Afganistan to 'protect themselves' is wrong. The whole basis for going into Afganistan was to overthrow the taliban and capture bin laden, neither which has happened, daily there are reports of Taliban fighters killing Afghans and British soldiers and where's Bin Laden? Iraq was sold to the UK as a country run by a dictator that killed hundreds of thousands of his own people (mostly ethnic minorities like the Kurds) and had missiles that he would use against Eastern Europe and Israel. Nothing to do with terrorism and protecting the USA, but Israel. As a result we have people who aren't discouraged by the violence but are willing to carry out attacks (like in Spain, Bali and London). The violence in Iraq and Afghan is opnly fueling hatred towards the west. AND TO CRAWL INTO SYRIA AND ATTACK CIVILLIANS THERE! That is AWFUL. The USA nor any other nation has any right to walk into another counrtry take prisoners and leave is awful.

And to say the USA has very free press is bullcrap, the press freedom index places USA VERY low, the UK also.

John McCain has voted more than 90% with president bush, and if you believe things will change you are wrong. And Sarah Palin is a joke, she lies, and it has been proven. As does Barack Obama with the whole Ayres thing. Sarah Palin has been accused of abusing her power, increased spending and ran up debts in Alaska. She was an awful pick for McCain, probably his downfall. Obama is not much better, apart from his tax plan, which is something that McCain agreed with 4 years ago, giving middle class people a break and taxing the rich more , as they had 'reached a level of ciomfort'

anyway i would write more, but i gotta go. byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee/

[Blue.Neon]

Actually if you watch the news you'd know that McCain is actually ahead of Obama when it comes to the war in Iraq... in the lates polls

MCCAIN TO WIN! Obama wont bring any good!

[scottish]

It's wrong to disrespect the soldiers of tha armed forces, i think everyone agrees on that. they work hard for their countries and put their lives in danger for their nation.

Obviously.

But to say that the USA and UK are going into Iraq and Afganistan to 'protect themselves' is wrong. The whole basis for going into Afganistan was to overthrow the taliban and capture bin laden, neither which has happened, daily there are reports of Taliban fighters killing Afghans and British soldiers and where's Bin Laden?

If the US go in to find bin laden and their forces fight with us, do you expect us just to withdraw, as the video states "The day we stop fighting is the day we lose our freedom"

Iraq was sold to the UK as a country run by a dictator that killed hundreds of thousands of his own people (mostly ethnic minorities like the Kurds) and had missiles that he would use against Eastern Europe and Israel. Nothing to do with terrorism and protecting the USA,

Obviously if they have missiles etc then they would be protecting US as theres nothing to say they won't use them against US or UK, so to an extent is is, its also (another reference to the video) giving people the freedom they deserve.

but Israel. As a result we have people who aren't discouraged by the violence but are willing to carry out attacks (like in Spain, Bali and London). The violence in Iraq and Afghan is opnly fueling hatred towards the west. AND TO CRAWL INTO SYRIA AND ATTACK CIVILLIANS THERE! That is AWFUL. The USA nor any other nation has any right to walk into another counrtry take prisoners and leave is awful.

Yes they do.

And to say the USA has very free press is bullcrap, the press freedom index places USA VERY low, the UK also.

Get over it.

John McCain has voted more than 90% with president bush, and if you believe things will change you are wrong. And Sarah Palin is a joke, she lies, and it has been proven. As does Barack Obama with the whole Ayres thing. Sarah Palin has been accused of abusing her power, increased spending and ran up debts in Alaska. She was an awful pick for McCain, probably his downfall. Obama is not much better, apart from his tax plan, which is something that McCain agreed with 4 years ago, giving middle class people a break and taxing the rich more , as they had 'reached a level of ciomfort'

McCain is great, but salin palin is obviously his downfall as you said, which was unfortunate for him but still. Barack just uses his colour :rolleyes: No matter what most countrys are going to increase spending soon to help with the economic crisis, hence all the news reports on "Backing on Keynes" if you knew who keynes is you'd know what was happening.