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    Quote Originally Posted by kurtis5561 View Post
    If customs do check the package you will have to pay as it is over the threshold. You would have to pay £4.32 duty and £17.56 VAT plus £8 fee from royal mail as they pay it on your behalf then bill you.

    No you pay being the importer, these forms you read about are the CN22 customs declarations to the contents of the package.
    And if they don't check it then I don't have to pay anything?

    So basically, I could end up paying nothing or I could end up paying £30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    And if they don't check it then I don't have to pay anything?

    So basically, I could end up paying nothing or I could end up paying £30.
    Correct, Litterally the variables are:

    Which customs port it comes through in the UK. (Mount Pleasent are the worst for being sticklers)
    Did the Customs agent get any the night before and is in a good mood (they may let it slide through Sounds stupid I know but true)
    Did the sender declare as a gift
    What the value of the declared package is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurtis5561 View Post
    Correct, Litterally the variables are:

    Which customs port it comes through in the UK. (Mount Pleasent are the worst for being sticklers)
    Did the Customs agent get any the night before and is in a good mood (they may let it slide through Sounds stupid I know but true)
    Did the sender declare as a gift
    What the value of the declared package is.
    Ah right okay. What are the exact percentages you have to pay?

    I imagine the sender hasn't declared it as a gift and the declared price will be
    $100 - $105.

    Thanks for your help, all of the websites are confusing. For example, it said one price you have to pay is 3.5% of the declared price... another says more, some say less. Blah.

    The HM Rev. and Customs site says:

    You will be charged:
    Customs duty if the amount of duty is €10 (£7) or over
    Import VAT if the value of the goods is €22 (£18) and over

    That's saying if the calculated duty is over a certain amount. Custom duty is 3.5% according to HM Rev., which is going to be £2.69. Important VAT is 15%, so that's £11.55. So if it's declared as £77 ($105) then I shouldn't have to pay anything.
    Last edited by Hitman; 25-01-2009 at 09:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Ah right okay. What are the exact percentages you have to pay?

    I imagine the sender hasn't declared it as a gift and the declared price will be
    $100 - $105.

    Thanks for your help, all of the websites are confusing. For example, it said one price you have to pay is 3.5% of the declared price... another says more, some say less. Blah.
    Its 4.5% Standard Duty rate as the goods is a watch and 15% VAT, Plus the carrier (ie Royal Mail, UPS etc) automatically pay it for you then charge you the amount plus a charge of between £8 and £13 for the pleasure. Although it sounds like the royal mail will be the UK carrier and the charge for them is £8

    This is on the basis it gets picked up by customs

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurtis5561 View Post
    Its 4.5% Standard Duty rate as the goods is a watch and 15% VAT, Plus the carrier (ie Royal Mail, UPS etc) automatically pay it for you then charge you the amount plus a charge of between £8 and £13 for the pleasure. Although it sounds like the royal mail will be the UK carrier and the charge for them is £8

    This is on the basis it gets picked up by customs
    Cheers you've been very helpful mate.

    The thing I posted is saying if the Customs Duty is less than £7 and the VAT is less than £18 then you wont be charged. Working it out the Customs Duty will be £4 something and the VAT is £11.55 so it's below those values.

    As you said, that is if it gets picked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Cheers you've been very helpful mate.

    The thing I posted is saying if the Customs Duty is less than £7 and the VAT is less than £18 then you wont be charged. Working it out the Customs Duty will be £4 something and the VAT is £11.55 so it's below those values.

    As you said, that is if it gets picked up.
    It depends what UN classification it falls under, In the UK if it costs more than £18 they will apply duty, Oh you know they apply the Duty/VAT to shipping charges aswell Its a ball ache I know but it is the UK goverment and they charge.

    As we say thats if it gets picked up. Just hope it doesn't scream "Open me officially" or is a VERY big package, as the customs officers will be drawn to it.

    I've only ever heard of issues from US imports Chinese imports seem to be waved through (Im assuming Chinese imports go through Manchester and Newcastles customs centre and the US go through Mount pleasant)
    Last edited by kurtis5561; 25-01-2009 at 09:40 PM.

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    You have a 50/50 chance of your package being inspected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurtis5561 View Post
    It depends what UN classification it falls under, In the UK if it costs more than £18 they will apply duty, Oh you know they apply the Duty/VAT to shipping charges aswell Its a ball ache I know but it is the UK goverment and they charge.

    As we say thats if it gets picked up. Just hope it doesn't scream "Open me officially" or is a VERY big package, as the customs officers will be drawn to it.

    I've only ever heard of issues from US imports Chinese imports seem to be waved through (Im assuming Chinese imports go through Manchester and Newcastles customs centre and the US go through Mount pleasant)
    The watch plus the shipping charge totals $137 ($105 and $32) which is just over £100 (£100.83 to be exact), which is still under £18 and £7. Customs duty would be £4.5 and VAT would be £15.

    I imagine it's a smallish box... its final destination is Leicester, so I've no idea where it'll go to.

    EDIT: Thanks Stephen, lets hope I'm in the 50% that doesn't get inspected. Knowing me though it will be inspected. :rolleyes:

    EDIT: Wait, VAT has to be paid anyway, just the customs duty might not have to be. Brrr.
    Last edited by Hitman; 25-01-2009 at 09:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    The watch plus the shipping charge totals $137 ($105 and $32) which is just over £100 (£100.83 to be exact), which is still under £18 and £7. Customs duty would be £4.5 and VAT would be £15.

    I imagine it's a smallish box... its final destination is Leicester, so I've no idea where it'll go to.

    EDIT: Thanks Stephen, lets hope I'm in the 50% that doesn't get inspected. Knowing me though it will be inspected. :rolleyes:

    EDIT: Wait, VAT has to be paid anyway, just the customs duty might not have to be. Brrr.
    VAT and standard duty has to be paid, Customs duty was abolished, that is if it gets caught

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    Thanks, I get it now. I'll end up paying £27 extra if customs decide to take a look... bloody rip off. Really hoping they don't bother.

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