Moderation in spam...

[Immenseman]

Yeah, I should have been fired. People have been fired for a lot less than what I did but that isn't up to me. I respect nvrspk4's decision regardless of what it is because he's the one trying to run Habbox. I can't personally help who I am and my staff status isn't going to stop me from posting what I'm thinking. I can't lie and pretend to like someone when I don't whereas some people could.

[FlyingJesus]

Well I don't think it's an offense worthy of getting fired but that's just my lax/pro views on freedom to bully in general, and you being an old hand at the job it wouldn't be beneficial to Habbox anyway. Far better to judge each case on its merits rather than have the same rule for all staff no matter how good they are in my view so yeah I'm not gonna be coming at you with torches at pitchforks

Anyway I'm off to McDonalds, latersss

[Wootzeh]

Should of pmed forum manager.

[Immenseman]

No, because if you'd read the thread then you'd see I wanted to get other peoples thoughts and opinions, dear.

[buttons]

As I mentioned in the spam thread about it, I think one of the big problems currently is that staff members are getting involved (sometimes up to management level) and normal moderators can't deal with those people. I agree that smods need to be a bit more in the limelight though, the only one I actually see posting ever is Yoshi, the others seem set in only posting to one area if at all. Not sure if Wayne is away on holiday or something and apologies to him if I'm calling him out and he is, but seriously...
Last Activity: 06-02-2009 11:36 AM

iirc wayne has family problems, jess is ill, yoshi is still about and mattgarner is away. There is hardy any arguments with staff that i've seen just the 2 (u no who u r!) the rest is just minor arguments that no-one really cares about.

OK, admittedly threads have been closed and I assume infractions have been given out. The amount of time it has taken for threads to be closed has been bordering on ridiculous. As soon as there is an argument the thread should be closed... there is a thread which is like 17 pages with a lot of arguing in which has calmed now but was never closed yet I know for a fact moderators have viewed the thread.

when there was a thread entitled "buttons/jen" it was closed by iAdam when it kicked off so he did a pretty good job there and even pmed me to ask if there was anything anywhere else that needed dealt with, even though the people arguing are denying it's arguing and say it's just "saying what they think" which is essentially leading to arguments. That thread "hiii" was made at the middle of the night when no mods were online so you can't really blame them and i doubt any come online in the morning and first thing they'll want to do is read through 17 pages to sort out the trouble makers. Jess had a look through (saw some edits) and she's actually away, i think?? so yeh it was made late at night no mods were on, it's not the moderator's faults it's the members who are spoiling it for everyone

Well they're not that busy, seeing as they have time to pick up the pieces and infract whoever they feel like, just to make it look like they've handled the situation 'efficiently'.

Jesus christ, I'm going to be temporarily banned just because the Moderators are slow and can't do their jobs, moderating the forum as a whole, properly. Bloody silly.

yes, they did hand out infractions in the end so they're still doing their jobs and how is them being slow gonna make you temporarily banned? even if they got you infracted straight away it'd be the same.

i think spam just needs a lot more moderators really

yeh there were 7 new mods or something and none were put to spam :S
anyway that thread is all sorted now so they just need to get everyone in spam to stop arguing, oh yeh it's not arguing according to them :rolleyes:

[Pyroka]

yes, they did hand out infractions in the end so they're still doing their jobs and how is them being slow gonna make you temporarily banned? even if they got you infracted straight away it'd be the same.

Yeah I think I take back that comment... Sorta silly to say that, sorry.

[jackass]

You do know we can't moderate 24/7, we do have college/university/jobs to go to, and we do have lives outside of this forum.

There have been many threads which have been full of arguments, and the second I saw them, I closed them all. Punishments cannot always be dished out, because there aren't actually specific posts that start the arguments - it normally just starts out slowly and snowballs out of control, so there isn't an exact post to punish.

Although saying this, the people in question that have been in the majority of the arguments do get reported, as it's out of us normal moderators hands, so serious action will get taken, especially if it carrys on.

Hope this has cleared some things up.

[Immenseman]

Well it hasn't really cleared anything up because we're all perfectly aware of that. If people are too busy with their real life then they should resign and let someone who isn't so busy take their job someone who is prepared to moderated and trawl through the pages and posts and issue the right sanctions. I personally wouldn't do it in 100 years but there are people who would be more than willing.

If that's right that none of the new moderators were issued to spam then that's just stupidity when it's obviously one of the "trouble" forums.

[jackass]

Well it hasn't really cleared anything up because we're all perfectly aware of that. If people are too busy with their real life then they should resign and let someone who isn't so busy take their job someone who is prepared to moderated and trawl through the pages and posts and issue the right sanctions. I personally wouldn't do it in 100 years but there are people who would be more than willing.

If that's right that none of the new moderators were issued to spam then that's just stupidity when it's obviously one of the "trouble" forums.

How has it not cleared anything up? Normal moderators cannot deal with constant arguments. It's only super moderators/higher ranked staff that can deal with things like that.

And you seriously cannot expect someone to come on the forum 24/7, can you? I come on a hell of a lot and go through the majority of the threads and posts, especially in the spam forum, so how am I not prepared to moderate?

[Immenseman]

It hasn't cleared things up because you're wrong. Normal moderators can infraction for bullying and arguing which is what was happening. You're blowing things out of all proportion and trying to cause a scene which isn't working. Not once have I requested that people come online 24/7 but I think the moderators at the moment have this lazy mentality. If you were prepared to moderate you would have sorted things.

It's funny because you say what action you took and then say you can't take action :S Which one is the lie?! :S:S