Moderation in spam...

[FlyingJesus]

I heard a rumour that I'm the new smod

[Immenseman]

You'd be crap tom ;l

[The Professor]

Moderators : 3
Garion, Biohazard, iAdam

There's your problem right there. 3 moderators for the general section isn't nearly enough, especially when there has been a problem identified. 4 moderators is the lowest number I'd put there (so there are still at least 3 when one is away) and ideally 5 moderators would be great, with some assigned to sections as well as general to give them something to do when general is quiet or being modded by the other mods. It just seems like a reshuffle is needed, there isn't anything wrong with the fundamental system or anything like that because it's worked well for the past year

[Sammeth.]

Spam specific moderators wouldn't do any harm I don't think since if they just focused on that forum alone thing might get done very swiftly indeed. Im not sure if that's exactly plausible though. You're right though, it is an issue which needs addressing but I don't think its the moderators doing a bad job, just a lack of moderators to do the job. Hopefully there will be a resolution to the issue soon!

[marriott0.01]

There's your problem right there. 3 moderators for the general section isn't nearly enough, especially when there has been a problem identified. 4 moderators is the lowest number I'd put there (so there are still at least 3 when one is away) and ideally 5 moderators would be great, with some assigned to sections as well as general to give them something to do when general is quiet or being modded by the other mods. It just seems like a reshuffle is needed, there isn't anything wrong with the fundamental system or anything like that because it's worked well for the past year

I don't think General should only cover Spam, I think there should be a dedicated team JUST for Spam, this would make it a lot easier for the Moderators in General, as they could concentrate on the other General Forums, while assisting the dedicated team.

[Immenseman]

Yeah but I don't think they're being over worked or anything. OK there could be 5 to cover the whole of general. I think the real problem is the lazy mentality. Of course, I say this blinded to the actual statistics and what work they're doing. They happily report staff posts to general management yet they ignore the rule breaking posts around them. Maybe it's something to do with friendship groups or something. I have no idea although I'd hope that doesn't play too much of a part.

[The Professor]

Spam specific moderators wouldn't do any harm I don't think since if they just focused on that forum alone thing might get done very swiftly indeed. Im not sure if that's exactly plausible though. You're right though, it is an issue which needs addressing but I don't think its the moderators doing a bad job, just a lack of moderators to do the job. Hopefully there will be a resolution to the issue soon!

Its an option but I think you should try just ploughing more mods into the general section first Moderators tend to get demoralised if they don't have much to do and being assigned to one section seems likely to make someone demoralised, especially with the general moderators and other spam moderators competing for the edits and such.

Yeah but I don't think they're being over worked or anything. OK there could be 5 to cover the whole of general. I think the real problem is the lazy mentality. Of course, I say this blinded to the actual statistics and what work they're doing. They happily report staff posts to general management yet they ignore the rule breaking posts around them. Maybe it's something to do with friendship groups or something. I have no idea although I'd hope that doesn't play too much of a part.

Imo that seems a bit "guilty 'til proven innocent". I don't use the section but from what you described it just sounds like there aren't enough people on at any one time to cover it, there's a difference between lazyness and genuinely not having the time to be on 24/7. If you see specific moderators ignoring certain posts around posts they edit, asking the FM to give them a nudge might solve the problem. I don't think making a generalisation will help much.

[marriott0.01]

There should be more of a variety of people that cover General, as it is the most active category, and 5 would be good, but then again, will they be up for doing it, or will they be lazy and just give up. And with friendship groups, they got to be a variety of people as you don't want someone who is close to someone letting them off.

[FlyingJesus]

You'd be crap tom ;l

You fix values!!!!

lmao nah I know, I'd literally just ban everyone. Or at least Leah

[Immenseman]

I'd also like to see people who post a lot in there become moderators for that section. It's probably one of the most problematic. Sports is bad sometimes as is technology I've heard (not sure) so it'd be great to see people who are regular spam posters get a moderation trial or whatever. Obviously not one of the rule breakers but someone like erm flyingjesus (don't know about his disciplinary record) / Kardan / Smiddy they're also established members and won't be intimated to sort things out in fear of getting "hated" which unfortunately does play a part.

haha how ironic i said you'd maybe be a good mod for spam tom and then you post that ^