Moderation in spam...

[The Professor]

I'd also like to see people who post a lot in there become moderators for that section. It's probably one of the most problematic. Sports is bad sometimes as is technology I've heard (not sure) so it'd be great to see people who are regular spam posters get a moderation trial or whatever. Obviously not one of the rule breakers but someone like erm flyingjesus (don't know about his disciplinary record) / Kardan / Smiddy they're also established members and won't be intimated to sort things out in fear of getting "hated" which unfortunately does play a part.

haha how ironic i said you'd maybe be a good mod for spam tom and then you post that ^

If there was a problem with friendship group-based moderating I think that might exacerbate it slightly

[Samishlol]

Just hire more moderators for spam section? Problem solved.

[Immenseman]

If there was a problem with friendship group-based moderating I think that might exacerbate it slightly

Just hazarding a guess at what might be going on ol:

[myke]

I don't know whether to agree or not...

Super moderators have a lot of work to do..

Perhaps I read the thread wrong.

and there's moderators for spam.

[TopManTim]

there's also a lack of moderation in the music section

of course i got warned because I posted what britneys if you seek amy's lyrics meant/sounded like which was constructive but nothing for a 30 page war

[Jordy]

I'd also like to see people who post a lot in there become moderators for that section. It's probably one of the most problematic. Sports is bad sometimes as is technology I've heard (not sure) so it'd be great to see people who are regular spam posters get a moderation trial or whatever. Obviously not one of the rule breakers but someone like erm flyingjesus (don't know about his disciplinary record) / Kardan / Smiddy they're also established members and won't be intimated to sort things out in fear of getting "hated" which unfortunately does play a part.

haha how ironic i said you'd maybe be a good mod for spam tom and then you post that ^

For the record the Technology section isn't too bad, lots of smod's tend to be interested in the section therefore behaviour tends to be good. The website development section is a totally different story though, just as awful as the Sports section in terms of continual arguments involving a lot of idiots.

I agree with the people you suggested as Moderator's but sadly most people in the Spam section aren't appropriate for it, like Nvrspk said, there is bullying going on etc so an internal recruitment could be a bad move.

I've been contemplating myself creating a thread because there's too many idiots around the forum and on most forums they'd just be banned but the rules just don't seem to sort that quick enough, you have to go through the whole warning/infraction process followed by cautions and temporary bans. Can't a smod just ******* perm them if they're gonna be annoying, if there is such thing as common sense moderating on this forum (I'm yet to see it) then their judgment should be good enough to dish out perms here and there to idiots who just sign up to rattle people in the sports and spam section etc.

It's a rather long-standing rule but I've never understood why Moderator's have to PM senior management (Must be Nvrspk or Bomb-Head) to deal with Staff infractions. I'm sure a lot of Moderator's can't be bothered and in a way I'm not surprised, it's so slow dealing with it this way, especially as Nvrspk is across the Pond so we have to wait for him to come on sometimes (Not his fault but the forum is predominantly European). Does it really matter if someone is a Habbox Help Desk Trialist? Moderators should be able to give out infractions to staff (Other than management and moderators for obvious reasons) and then maybe they should post in a thread or then PM their department manager so they know and can judge whether it's appropriate for them to be staff.

As for the poor moderation once again, can we please stop with the excuses and stop being in denial? Can't the moderation gravy train admit their mistakes for once and look into how things can be improved instead of giving tedious excuses and justifying everything. If there wasn't a problem people wouldn't be moaning so please stop defending yourself constantly and post constructively.

Edit: Oh and I feel I must include this here to prove my point about poor moderation, it's rather sickening this particular case. I reported this a few hours ago and still nothing, a moderator should have spotted this as it was posted yesterday (Trialist mod even posted).

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...64#post5671164

Somebody has posted illegal download links to a Rape Simulator Game which has been in the news for obvious reasons, not only is it sick that somebody posted this but this is probably illegal too. Regardless of the law in this case, this is an 18 game which no doubt contains violence and nudity and would therefore be an 18 and unsuitable for this 'Teen' forum at the very least. I see this as far worse than posting pornography tbh and if anything but a perm ban is handed out for that post then they've got off lightly and clearly the rules need toughening, agreed?

[leah]

Yeah Tom. Like I replied I can only think of me and Leah which is a minority. I know Garion reported all my posts like he should do but yet he is a moderator so why wasn't he handing out negative sanctions to other people in the threads he was reporting mine to, it's beyond me. Just because two staff members have been involved it doesn't mean they are they only ones who should be punished which is what has happened.

Theres a difference between being rude and arguing than posting what you think

I'm gonna stop posting in the spam thread because it's getting complicated but just to recap my reply there, I see a lot of radio staff acting up around the forum (not just in spam) and I'm not sure what happened last night really as I wasn't around, just looks like the normal female dominance fight to me.
Not to pick on you as I agree it's wrong to only discipline staff after a problem, but you are the ones, especially as managers, who are supposed to be setting an example. Even I managed to stay away from bullying for a while when I was manager.. or at least keep it to off the forum.

If you read the thread you would know I wasn't arguing and Jake wasn't even online at the time

I heard a rumour that I'm the new smod

as if.

You fix values!!!!

lmao nah I know, I'd literally just ban everyone. Or at least Leah

omg you're such a bully (U)

[Immenseman]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...=568175&page=9

Another one earlier, 11 pages in and rule breaking was on first page, lol.

[nvrspk4]

We're taking steps to combat it as you can see from the sticky, also the SMODS are paying special attention and we're handing out stricter punishments for bullying. Additionally we are looking to raise the number of moderators, probably to about 6. lAscend is working hard to try and fix the situation.

That being said, some people here are criticizing the firefighters while fanning the flames.

I think Alex summed it up best a while ago, you can all do something to help: Don't feed the trolls. And don't poke them in the eye with a stick either.

Even the victims of bullying are not completely innocent because they too are throwing around insults, not only at bullies but at other people who are victims.

Also we are probably going to begin removing people's access to the spam forum for periods of time, or in some cases permanantly.

[Blinger1]

We're taking steps to combat it as you can see from the sticky, also the SMODS are paying special attention and we're handing out stricter punishments for bullying. Additionally we are looking to raise the number of moderators, probably to about 6. lAscend is working hard to try and fix the situation.

That being said, some people here are criticizing the firefighters while fanning the flames.

I think Alex summed it up best a while ago, you can all do something to help: Don't feed the trolls. And don't poke them in the eye with a stick either.

Even the victims of bullying are not completely innocent because they too are throwing around insults, not only at bullies but at other people who are victims.

Also we are probably going to begin removing people's access to the spam forum for periods of time, or in some cases permanantly.

Was that really needed to be said as metaphor? I mean, after what i (as an Australian who lives right next to the worst bushfires in australian history, literally about 5-10minute drive) have just gone through...

Just ban all the people who cause arguments for a week from the spam forum :S (obviously, who argued in the spam section)