The crap we call Design & Development.

[leah]

Very good post, have some rep

The only problem I can see is finding people suitable enough for moderating and who have a good knowledge of D&D. Mod jobs aren't just given to any old nubbin.

lol nubbin
I think Jewish Bear is right when he says an expert mod is needed, maybe someone could watch out for a regular poster who can be trusted with the job.

[nvrspk4]

True. Is there any idea on what to do about the moderation? Because if you can look at that and say it's fine, you need help ^_^.

Honestly we're having difficulty locating quality moderators, lAscend did mention the possibility of reverting to the old three forum per mod system where mods were able to specialize a little more.

[The Professor]

Honestly we're having difficulty locating quality moderators, lAscend did mention the possibility of reverting to the old three forum per mod system where mods were able to specialize a little more.

Must have been very old because I don't remember it What was that?

[Protege]

I believe he said:

3 dedicated moderators per forum category. Probably rushing typing and got it mixed up

[Invent]

Honestly we're having difficulty locating quality moderators, lAscend did mention the possibility of reverting to the old three forum per mod system where mods were able to specialize a little more.

It 'kinda sucked that when I was a D&D moderator I seemed to be fired for no apparent reason o_o.

[Dentafrice]

I know I'll never get the chance to moderate it, because if the way I say things, and how I word things.

But some of us "older" dedicated members would be the ones you need to look at, because I (being one of them) suggested these changes in the first place.. so obviously the ones like me have a clue about what's going on.. and what needs done to make it a good section again.

ReviewDude is a great guy, and I see he's the trialist, but why him? I thought we were specializing a bit?

He's not been active in that section in a good long while, and being a good moderator doesn't mean you know the section that you're going to moderate.

To fix this section, you need moderators who know the section the best, and the ones who know how to fix it.

[nvrspk4]

Must have been very old because I don't remember it What was that?

Erm a while ago, I'm tempted to say it was just before you and Moderation Manager but I guess not since you don't remember it. Gawsh I feel old.

It 'kinda sucked that when I was a D&D moderator I seemed to be fired for no apparent reason o_o.

We don't discuss firing things publically obviously but if you want to discuss it PM me

I know I'll never get the chance to moderate it, because if the way I say things, and how I word things.

But some of us "older" dedicated members would be the ones you need to look at, because I (being one of them) suggested these changes in the first place.. so obviously the ones like me have a clue about what's going on.. and what needs done to make it a good section again.

ReviewDude is a great guy, and I see he's the trialist, but why him? I thought we were specializing a bit?

He's not been active in that section in a good long while, and being a good moderator doesn't mean you know the section that you're going to moderate.

To fix this section, you need moderators who know the section the best, and the ones who know how to fix it.

There's an implicit issue there that forum users believe that users of that specific forum should be moderators because they know how they want it moderated. There's an issue there first of all with "How they want it moderated." For example, some D&D users (not necessarily you but in some PM conversations this has been said) feel that those who are "idiotic" and not tech savvy with bad ideas should be allowed to be flamed a little bit when they do stupid things or say stupid things. That is not how we want the Forum to be moderated.

The second issue it brings up is that the moderator has to be a user of the forum, and this just backfires in 20 different ways. Usually the moderator's friends are among users of that forum which messes things up for the mod who may either try to be lenient on friends or lose friends when they do things. Also there are certain expectations and there's feelings of betrayal all around when things don't go exactly as the members want them to.

Thus its usually a bad idea to hire a dedicated member, though there are at times cases where we have extraordinary individuals who can handle this. What we try to find is a medium, people who know what the section is about but perhaps aren't aggressively involved in discussions there. For example, ReviewDude is certainly a very competent moderator and I'm sure he'll do a great job.

[Agnostic Bear]

There's an implicit issue there that forum users believe that users of that specific forum should be moderators because they know how they want it moderated. There's an issue there first of all with "How they want it moderated." For example, some D&D users (not necessarily you but in some PM conversations this has been said) feel that those who are "idiotic" and not tech savvy with bad ideas should be allowed to be flamed a little bit when they do stupid things or say stupid things. That is not how we want the Forum to be moderated.

The second issue it brings up is that the moderator has to be a user of the forum, and this just backfires in 20 different ways. Usually the moderator's friends are among users of that forum which messes things up for the mod who may either try to be lenient on friends or lose friends when they do things. Also there are certain expectations and there's feelings of betrayal all around when things don't go exactly as the members want them to.

Thus its usually a bad idea to hire a dedicated member, though there are at times cases where we have extraordinary individuals who can handle this. What we try to find is a medium, people who know what the section is about but perhaps aren't aggressively involved in discussions there. For example, ReviewDude is certainly a very competent moderator and I'm sure he'll do a great job.

So you need someone who doesn't care about anyone on the forums, doesn't really post in that section all the time and doesn't insult the less tech savvy people.

That sounds like someone I know. :8

[Trinity]

So you need someone who doesn't care about anyone on the forums, doesn't really post in that section all the time and doesn't insult the less tech savvy people.

That sounds like someone I know. :8

Indeed. I have a feeling you'd be a bit power-mad though, editing everyone's posts to include the word 'dongs'.

[Verrou]

Get over it, people host games in the trading section in Habbo, don't see anyone getting their nickers in a twist over that...