General Election 2010

[Ardemax]

Sorry, I meant they havn't proven they will do a better job then Labour. As I said, the only reason people will vote Conservative is because they blame politicans for things that are out of their control, such as the recession.

Agreed with you there.

[-:Undertaker:-]

i've changed my mind now. although there's not much chance of it, i actually wouldn't mind the lib dems winning. labour wouldn't bother me. if the tories get in then at least everyone could see they aren't the right thing for this country.

What, and Labour and the Liberal Democrats are? - the partys which opposed Mrs Thatchers econimic reforms which made this country strong and wealthy.

With everyone shouting "TORIES FTW!" and "STHU, THEY WON'T DO ANYTHING." I'd just like to point out that we don't have a damn clue what they will do in office. It's obvious that they have a way bigger chance now thanks to the face of Gordon Brown all over the Labour party - but Labour still has some better policies than Tories.

Promises, but ones that are not kept. A good one comes to mind from their manifestos, whiter than white & a referendum on the Libson Treaty - I wonder what happend to those and many other promises.

Sorry, I meant they havn't proven they will do a better job then Labour. As I said, the only reason people will vote Conservative is because they blame politicans for things that are out of their control, such as the recession.

They proved it in the 1980s by turning a debt ridden, falling to socialism country into a financial capital and wealthy country. It is Labours fault this recession, who sold all of our gold reserves when they were at a 20 year low? - Labour. Who didn't keep any money for a rainy day - Labour.

Labour managed to win in 2005 due to nobody trusting the Tories.
The problem is they did as much bad as they did good in their what was it? 17 years in power? It's hard for some people to forgive

No single leader or party is going to get us out of the recession.
After all it's a worldwide economic crisis, what's it gonna be DC SAVES THE WORLD? I don't think so...

Labour managed to win in 2005 yes, but with a strong campaign by Michael Howard their popularity was greatly reduced. You think bad is closing the mines and saving this country from going bankrupt? - you need to learn common sense basic economics if that is the case.

David Cameron will have to do what Mrs Thatcher did in the 1970s, reduce spending to fill the national debt black hole which is getting bigger and bigger every second. He will also have to pave the way for us to have extra cash in the future so we can weather any future recessions, which is the opposite to what Labour are doing which is spending and now the recession has hit, we have no money to deal with it.

[Frodo13.]

They proved it in the 1980s by turning a debt ridden, falling to socialism country into a financial capital and wealthy country. It is Labours fault this recession, who sold all of our gold reserves when they were at a 20 year low? - Labour. Who didn't keep any money for a rainy day - Labour.

No, what they did do is lead the country to a complete standstill and sucessfully alienated every single working class person in the country. The sole reason Thatcher lasted one term? Falklands War.

And I also believe it was the Conservative government under John Major who were forced to withdraw the pound from the ERM because they were that incompetent to keep it above its agreed lower limit. The result? Over £800m in trading losses. And before you come out with some rubbish that this was the best thing to happen to the Sterling, if the pound had of remained under the ERM, the UK would have made a £2.4bn profit on the sterlings devaluation. So no, the Conservatives have done naff all to convince me they could save the economy. And when the Conservatives do come to power, and the ecomomy will improve, it won't be down to them, it will be down to the Bank of England (who for a matter of fact, were put in charge of our economy by Labour.)

[Bun]

Labour managed to win in 2005 due to nobody trusting the Tories.

No single leader or party is going to get us out of the recession.
After all it's a worldwide economic crisis, what's it gonna be DC SAVES THE WORLD? I don't think so...

Actually that was more the case in 1997. Labour didn't win the election, the Tories just lost it.

And obviously not, but isn't that the main reason everyone wants Gordon Brown out?

[Ardemax]

Actually that was more the case in 1997. Labour didn't win the election, the Tories just lost it.

And obviously not, but isn't that the main reason everyone wants Gordon Brown out?

We don't want David Cameron in though.

[Fez]

We don't want David Cameron in though.

'We'...?

[Bun]

'We'...?

smart people.

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jooooooking, just trollin' :8

[-:Undertaker:-]

No, what they did do is lead the country to a complete standstill and sucessfully alienated every single working class person in the country. The sole reason Thatcher lasted one term? Falklands War.

And I also believe it was the Conservative government under John Major who were forced to withdraw the pound from the ERM because they were that incompetent to keep it above its agreed lower limit. The result? Over £800m in trading losses. And before you come out with some rubbish that this was the best thing to happen to the Sterling, if the pound had of remained under the ERM, the UK would have made a £2.4bn profit on the sterlings devaluation. So no, the Conservatives have done naff all to convince me they could save the economy. And when the Conservatives do come to power, and the ecomomy will improve, it won't be down to them, it will be down to the Bank of England (who for a matter of fact, were put in charge of our economy by Labour.)

More socialist rubbish yet again, they saved the working class and made more wealth then ever before, the effects which have been lasting all through Labours term in office. You just cant accept it because your living some fantasy in which the mines are still open and business will not come to the United Kingdom due to high taxes which are high to support useless and non-profit making industry.

I don't know much about the ERM but I would want a independant currency, not some european dream in which the euro would take over the sovereign currencies. That was its aim, to achieve money stability in europe in prepartion for the single currency. We don't want the euro so would would we tie ourselves down to this ERM scheme which again, we have coped with fine without for years. Spectating brought the pound sterling to a collapse that day, and spectating cannot be controlled properly by any government.

As the Labour government has had to appeal to the IMF once, and could well have to do so if it keeps spending the way it is, I would not compare the Conservative record of strong growth, turning a declining economy around and creating new wealth against a party which has made us appeal to the IMF, did nothing to rescue the economy and sold most gold stocks in 1997 - early 000's when they were at a 20 year low, now leaving us with no backup what so ever, thus why we are getting deeper and deeper into a quagmire of debt.

[Fez]

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jooooooking, just trollin' :8

I lol'd

To the rest of the thread. I just wanted to point out that if we just about fully came under the EU rules and restrictions, you're life would change dramatically. For a start you would have to use the Euro, and for the first couple of months it would be a weak currency and wouldn't be very nice.

But the influence of Britain and our own rules could change the EU itself, and propell the Euro to a powerfuller currency. But really at the end of the day, we're getting screwed over.

For those who can vote, and are going to vote. Use you're common sense when casting your ballot you lucky thieves.

[Frodo13.]

More socialist rubbish yet again, they saved the working class and made more wealth then ever before, the effects which have been lasting all through Labours term in office. You just cant accept it because your living some fantasy in which the mines are still open and business will not come to the United Kingdom due to high taxes which are high to support useless and non-profit making industry.

I don't know much about the ERM but I would want a independant currency, not some european dream in which the euro would take over the sovereign currencies. That was its aim, to achieve money stability in europe in prepartion for the single currency. We don't want the euro so would would we tie ourselves down to this ERM scheme which again, we have coped with fine without for years. Spectating brought the pound sterling to a collapse that day, and spectating cannot be controlled properly by any government.

As the Labour government has had to appeal to the IMF once, and could well have to do so if it keeps spending the way it is, I would not compare the Conservative record of strong growth, turning a declining economy around and creating new wealth against a party which has made us appeal to the IMF, did nothing to rescue the economy and sold most gold stocks in 1997 - early 000's when they were at a 20 year low, now leaving us with no backup what so ever, thus why we are getting deeper and deeper into a quagmire of debt.

Thatcher did one thing for the economy, which was privatisation of most publicly owned businesses, which I admit, was her finest hour in some aspects. Then again, privatisation of many places has led to them being compleatly wiped out. However, the boost it gave to the economy is nothing compared to that of Brown when he was Chancellor. Up until now, the UK economy has continued to boom like it has never before. All economies are due a downturn, ours is now, and Gordon Brown is not the man to blame for it.

Black Wednesday and the closing of the mines resulting to the UK coming to a standstill and the eventual loss of thousands of jobs across the country? All down to a useless Tory governemt.